"Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

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Post by HeroR » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:55 pm

Kanassa wrote: Xenoverse 2 had plenty of changes, Nappa going great ape, Ginyu switching with Trunks, Turles and Slug fighting over the Dragonballs and helping out the Ginyu Force,the Metal Coolers entering the Cell games, 16 going after F!Gohan, ect.
Most of these changes were extremely minor, though. The biggest WTF moments came with all of Cooler's scenes. Turles and Slug came off as major threats only to be killed off by Namek, which makes you wondered why they were even there. Broly and Janenba in the Buu Saga were extremely meh and they could have done so much more with them like have Buu absorbed them or something. Seriously, Janenba one of the strongest movie villains gets wasted by base form Vegeta after a brief fight. What happened to your original Time Patroller is awesome, but it feels like they could have done more with it, like have him as an ongoing threat instead instead of just shock value. Future Gohan was the highly of the game simply because of the character interaction with Future Trunks more than the changed in history.

Overall, the story just felt like a retread of Xenoverse with a few surprises. The last missions weren't nearly as cool as the ones from Xenoverse, especially the final map, although Mira was a better final boss with a cool twist. Xenoverse 2's highs are much higher than the best of Xenoverse, but the overall package falls short compared to Xenoverse since the whole Time Patrol story kind of feels played out and not fresh and new like the first game. It was also a copout not to include any of the original Dragon Ball story and they just did Raditz through Buu with extremely short version of BOG and Resurrection 'F'. I also hate how they used Bardock, letting him just getting all the major Super Saiyan forms just cause. He was done better in the first game with the Broly DLC.

Maybe they can do something more interesting once they fully integrate Super in Xenoverse 3, especially with trying to incorporate the Future Trunks Saga into the Xenoverse's lore.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:37 pm

I don't understand why people complain about XV2's story being lacking or a rehash when they literally said that's what it was going to be - several times, in fact. I wouldn't be able to find the exact statements, but if you browse through this thread during the pre-release news era, I think you'd see it mentioned a few times.
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Anime Kitten wrote:I don't understand why people complain about XV2's story being lacking or a rehash when they literally said that's what it was going to be - several times, in fact. I wouldn't be able to find the exact statements, but if you browse through this thread during the pre-release news era, I think you'd see it mentioned a few times.
I'm sorry it Anime Kitten the reason why everyone hates the XV2 Story being lacking, and a story is exactly that, and If I remember people were disappointed when they heard about it. And the story wasn't just lack luster it was actually a bad experience, and a negative to the game.

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Post by Zeru14 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:43 am

Once they add the missing character/forms(including what-ifs like Great Ape Raditz), Xenoverse 3 would probably come off as better, especially since the Saiyan, Frieza, Android and Buu Sagas will finally feel more complete. The movies characters definitely need to be used better and more battles in each saga, take the Saiyan Saga for example, Super Garlic Jr. can show up in the Raditz fight, the Time Breakers can use their dark magic on Great Ape Gohan during his first transformation against Piccolo like in Online and Heroes and later on Piccolo during his training with Gohan and Turles can join in on the fight with Nappa and Vegeta(giving them both fruit) and after Nappa is defeated Turles can transform into a Great Ape when Vegeta uses the Moon ball.

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Anime Kitten wrote:I don't understand why people complain about XV2's story being lacking or a rehash when they literally said that's what it was going to be - several times, in fact. I wouldn't be able to find the exact statements, but if you browse through this thread during the pre-release news era, I think you'd see it mentioned a few times.
Because it is. It feels like mission-pack sequel story, something that could have easily been created as DLC for the first game. Keep in mind, I am not talking about game mechanics, but what got people interested in the first Xenoverse was that we were getting something slightly different than replaying Z. Now, Xenoverse feels like you're playing Z with some interesting twists now and then, but its still the same story. Doesn't help that the entire Time Patrol feels like an excuse to have players relive Z and they don't do anything else with it.

The fact that Xenoverse also ignores the original Dragon Ball and also really annoys me. There is a whole story before Raditz, which is about a third of the original manga. This is like Naruto ignoring the entirety of Part 1.
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Post by TekTheNinja » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:22 am

So there's a livestream going on right now. Currently it's all Dokkan, but there's supposed to be some XV2 DLC footage.
https://twitter.com/dbgame_official/sta ... 7871147008
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Anime Kitten wrote:I don't understand why people complain about XV2's story being lacking or a rehash when they literally said that's what it was going to be - several times, in fact. I wouldn't be able to find the exact statements, but if you browse through this thread during the pre-release news era, I think you'd see it mentioned a few times.
So you're saying just because they told us the story was going to be a retread that makes it ok that it's a retread? I mean that's like saying if a company admitted that their game sucked, that it would make their game suck less.

They also falsely advertised something MAJOR though. The whole, "There's a feature after you beat the main story where you can change history" thing, remember? That turned out to be a measly two missions where your choices didn't matter. And honestly this "feature" was pretty damn heavily advertised.

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Post by Draconic » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:24 am

TekTheNinja wrote:So there's a livestream going on right now. Currently it's all Dokkan, but there's supposed to be some XV2 DLC footage.
https://twitter.com/dbgame_official/sta ... 7871147008
https://live.line.me/channels/21/broadcast/785741
Anime Kitten wrote:I don't understand why people complain about XV2's story being lacking or a rehash when they literally said that's what it was going to be - several times, in fact. I wouldn't be able to find the exact statements, but if you browse through this thread during the pre-release news era, I think you'd see it mentioned a few times.
So you're saying just because they told us the story was going to be a retread that makes it ok that it's a retread? I mean that's like saying if a company admitted that their game sucked, that it would make their game suck less.

They also falsely advertised something MAJOR though. The whole, "There's a feature after you beat the main story where you can change history" thing, remember? That turned out to be a measly two missions where your choices didn't matter. And honestly this "feature" was pretty damn heavily advertised.
Vados looks like that mid-tier character who is pretty cool to play once you master, but pretty much unusable otherwise (think... Rose in Ultra Street Fighter 4). Champa on the other hand looks pretty bad from the little we saw of him.
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Post by TekTheNinja » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:30 am

Vados has really slow combos. Champa's strangely remind me a bit of Satan's. The ults look neat.

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Post by Spenzer » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:45 am

Does anyone have a link to rewatch the new Champa and Vados footage? I missed the stream.

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Post by Draconic » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:49 am

TekTheNinja wrote:Vados has really slow combos. Champa's strangely remind me a bit of Satan's. The ults look neat.
Now that you mention it that's true. It's pretty stupid they based them off almost entirely on that shitty scuffle between him and Beerus. Why not check out the manga for something, or hell, Super's Beerus vs Goku, since Beerus in Xenoverse 2 is based on his Battle of Gods self.
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Post by Doctor. » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:03 am

Is this game's localization still terrible?

And by that I mean does the game still have a multitude of spelling errors and cases of the subtitles not matching up with what is being said?

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Post by Grimlock » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:34 am

Wow, they actually created a new technique for Champa, and it is cool. I was expecting they would take his ultimate from Heroes too, which would be boring, as it is a random version of Beerus' ultimate.

Vados' technique is indeed Requiem of Destruction, but has a slight different animation, cool! Too bad she's a slow character, but her combos are interesting!

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Post by ShadowBardock89 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:56 am

Doctor. wrote:Is this game's localization still terrible?

And by that I mean does the game still have a multitude of spelling errors and cases of the subtitles not matching up with what is being said?
Some of that is carried over from the last game, especially Vegeta's lines. I think they goofed and put the wrong audio with the cues and didn't fix it in the second game. Pretty lazy, if you ask me.
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Post by Kanassa » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:44 am

I am liking the Tournament Stage, it doesn't seem to have the World Tournament Stage's problem of being too cramped... Well, unless it turns out that the boundary is shorter than I think it is.
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Post by Nightmare Wheel » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:01 am

Doctor. wrote:Is this game's localization still terrible?

And by that I mean does the game still have a multitude of spelling errors and cases of the subtitles not matching up with what is being said?
Subtitle accuracy varies quite a bit. Cell being the worst offender. I get the feeling Dameon Clarke was just ab-libbing a ton of his dialogue. I don't remember any spelling errors though. Could be wrong.

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Post by Zeru14 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:32 am

HeroR wrote:
Anime Kitten wrote:I don't understand why people complain about XV2's story being lacking or a rehash when they literally said that's what it was going to be - several times, in fact. I wouldn't be able to find the exact statements, but if you browse through this thread during the pre-release news era, I think you'd see it mentioned a few times.
Because it is. It feels like mission-pack sequel story, something that could have easily been created as DLC for the first game. Keep in mind, I am not talking about game mechanics, but what got people interested in the first Xenoverse was that we were getting something slightly different than replaying Z. Now, Xenoverse feels like you're playing Z with some interesting twists now and then, but its still the same story. Doesn't help that the entire Time Patrol feels like an excuse to have players relive Z and they don't do anything else with it.

The fact that Xenoverse also ignores the original Dragon Ball and also really annoys me. There is a whole story before Raditz, which is about a third of the original manga. This is like Naruto ignoring the entirety of Part 1.
I agree that the original Dragonball should be added, but at the same time I understand the limitation on characters they could use, the most I could see them using is Kid Goku(Base, Power Pole Pro), Master Roshi, Max Power Roshi, Yajirobe, King Piccolo and Tambourine, it should go like this in Xenoverse 3, the first stage isn't the Raditz fight this time it'll be the second, the first stage is the King Piccolo fight with Kid Goku, the Time Breakers are using dark magic to power up King Piccolo making him stronger than he's suppose to be and to make matters worse Tambourine shows up(ala BT3) having been saved by the Time Breakers at the last second(ala Bardock) from Kid Goku's blast in his and Kid Goku's last fight and is also powered up, so the Time Patrol sends the Future Warrior to back up Kid Goku, after Dark Tambourine and Dark King Piccolo are defeated a cutscene plays where Kid Goku uses Penetrate to plow through King Piccolo(who spits out an egg), and therefore the timeline is fixed.

And for fun you can fight Dark Yajirobe and Dark Roshi/Max Power Roshi in Parallel Quest.

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Post by HeroR » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:43 am

Zeru14 wrote:
HeroR wrote:
Anime Kitten wrote:I don't understand why people complain about XV2's story being lacking or a rehash when they literally said that's what it was going to be - several times, in fact. I wouldn't be able to find the exact statements, but if you browse through this thread during the pre-release news era, I think you'd see it mentioned a few times.
Because it is. It feels like mission-pack sequel story, something that could have easily been created as DLC for the first game. Keep in mind, I am not talking about game mechanics, but what got people interested in the first Xenoverse was that we were getting something slightly different than replaying Z. Now, Xenoverse feels like you're playing Z with some interesting twists now and then, but its still the same story. Doesn't help that the entire Time Patrol feels like an excuse to have players relive Z and they don't do anything else with it.

The fact that Xenoverse also ignores the original Dragon Ball and also really annoys me. There is a whole story before Raditz, which is about a third of the original manga. This is like Naruto ignoring the entirety of Part 1.
I agree that the original Dragonball should be added, but at the same time I understand the limitation on characters they could use, the most I could see them using is Kid Goku(Base, Power Pole Pro), Master Roshi, Max Power Roshi, Yajirobe, King Piccolo and Tambourine, it should go like this in Xenoverse 3, the first stage isn't the Raditz fight this time it'll be the second, the first stage is the King Piccolo fight with Kid Goku, the Time Breakers are using dark magic to power up King Piccolo making him stronger than he's suppose to be and to make matters worse Tambourine shows up(ala BT3) having been saved by the Time Breakers at the last second(ala Bardock) from Kid Goku's blast in his and Kid Goku's last fight and is also powered up, so the Time Patrol sends the Future Warrior to back up Kid Goku, after Dark Tambourine and Dark King Piccolo are defeated a cutscene plays where Kid Goku uses Penetrate to plow through King Piccolo(who spits out an egg), and therefore the timeline is fixed.

And for fun you can fight Dark Yajirobe and Dark Roshi/Max Power Roshi in Parallel Quest.
What about General Blue, Ninja Murasaki, Major Metallitron, or Mercenary Tao?
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HeroR wrote:
Because it is. It feels like mission-pack sequel story, something that could have easily been created as DLC for the first game. Keep in mind, I am not talking about game mechanics, but what got people interested in the first Xenoverse was that we were getting something slightly different than replaying Z. Now, Xenoverse feels like you're playing Z with some interesting twists now and then, but its still the same story. Doesn't help that the entire Time Patrol feels like an excuse to have players relive Z and they don't do anything else with it.

The fact that Xenoverse also ignores the original Dragon Ball and also really annoys me. There is a whole story before Raditz, which is about a third of the original manga. This is like Naruto ignoring the entirety of Part 1.
I agree that the original Dragonball should be added, but at the same time I understand the limitation on characters they could use, the most I could see them using is Kid Goku(Base, Power Pole Pro), Master Roshi, Max Power Roshi, Yajirobe, King Piccolo and Tambourine, it should go like this in Xenoverse 3, the first stage isn't the Raditz fight this time it'll be the second, the first stage is the King Piccolo fight with Kid Goku, the Time Breakers are using dark magic to power up King Piccolo making him stronger than he's suppose to be and to make matters worse Tambourine shows up(ala BT3) having been saved by the Time Breakers at the last second(ala Bardock) from Kid Goku's blast in his and Kid Goku's last fight and is also powered up, so the Time Patrol sends the Future Warrior to back up Kid Goku, after Dark Tambourine and Dark King Piccolo are defeated a cutscene plays where Kid Goku uses Penetrate to plow through King Piccolo(who spits out an egg), and therefore the timeline is fixed.

And for fun you can fight Dark Yajirobe and Dark Roshi/Max Power Roshi in Parallel Quest.
What about General Blue, Ninja Murasaki, Major Metallitron, or Mercenary Tao?
I could see Tao or Cyborg Tao, but the other two not so much.
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Post by Lord Frieza » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:15 pm

Noah wrote:I wonder how they'll do Vados moveset? She was barely show to do something (fighting) in Super
Thats a good question, the same thing was said about Whis as he has never once used a "Signature attack".

His first attack was in Heroes, "Prelude to Destruction" which was based on Beerus's finger beam (although with a bit of Whis flare) and seems to have stuck. That seems to have happened with Vados, the attack shown in the stills is the same she had in heroes, "Resurrection of Destruction". Although in this case the attack is purely mad up but this is not the first time as Tagoma had the "Bad Lance" which he has never used in movie or series. She will likely have "Warp" as her defense skill.

As for her fighting style well I suspect a more a arrogance tor aggressive version of Whis's given how she assumed that she was stronger then Whis despite them having not fought in ages. I suspect that may be how they will with her other techniques to.

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