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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 74

Post by Mazingerdestro » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:00 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
Mazingerdestro wrote:Guys relax. A company doesn't suddenly announce something new like that. There is a lot of planning behind.
They do tend to release "mediocre" products but I think since super is starting to explode, the key staff will remain unchanged.
But yeah I don't see additional staff moving to the show.
IF the schedule has indeed improved, I guess that the series will reach a point where the quality will remain steady but we in general won't see anything worth talking about (basically like every other Toei animation production).
Toei does lots of high quality stuff, One Piece and PreCure regularly get awesome animation, Tiger Mask has had plenty of great stuff and we just had a One Piece movie was was outstanding.
Toei doesn't just decide the staff of shows, the people in charge of a specific show can try to grab certain people but it's entirely up to those people what they work on. If Super's production improves and it reaches at least average or near average production times then the show will be more attractive to work on and animators will be more willing to work on it.
Sorry but nothing on the series you mentioned shout "exciting" to me. Op in terms of animation is pretty mediocre with few episodes been good and most been average.
Tiger mask w is one of my favorite toei series but again excluding the consistency, I am not impressed. None of the battles went crazy with the animation (not even the yellow devil battle).
Excluding the openings, Toei animation's shows are not spectacular nowadays. Yes they might have 1 awesome cut every 30 episodes but that's it.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 74

Post by Ajay » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:07 pm

Mazingerdestro wrote:Sorry but nothing on the series you mentioned shout "exciting" to me. Op in terms of animation is pretty mediocre with few episodes been good and most been average.
Tiger mask w is one of my favorite toei series but again excluding the consistency, I am not impressed. None of the battles went crazy with the animation (not even the yellow devil battle).
Excluding the openings, Toei animation's shows are not spectacular nowadays. Yes they might have 1 awesome cut every 30 episodes but that's it.
What do you consider good animation, out of curiosity? Like, can you post examples? You call One Piece mediocre, Tiger Mask W unimpressive, and lump all of Toei's shows into a barrel. Your standards terrify me. What constitutes 'good' to you?
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 74

Post by Mazingerdestro » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:24 pm

Ajay wrote:
Mazingerdestro wrote:Sorry but nothing on the series you mentioned shout "exciting" to me. Op in terms of animation is pretty mediocre with few episodes been good and most been average.
Tiger mask w is one of my favorite toei series but again excluding the consistency, I am not impressed. None of the battles went crazy with the animation (not even the yellow devil battle).
Excluding the openings, Toei animation's shows are not spectacular nowadays. Yes they might have 1 awesome cut every 30 episodes but that's it.
What do you consider good animation, out of curiosity? Like, can you post examples? You call One Piece mediocre, Tiger Mask W unimpressive, and lump all of Toei's shows into a barrel. Your standards terrify me. What constitutes 'good' to you?
I consider "nanbaka" and "all out" very good series and "hxh" was also a very good long running series. On the other hand, shows like "yowamushi pedal" and "
Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu: Yotarou Hourou-hen" are on the top of my list.

In general, I do not consider shows that suffer from many off model moments good.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 74

Post by HybridSaiyan » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:31 pm

iAnimationLover_ wrote:So, what do you guys think of this cut from Yamamuro?



[spoiler]

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I was in a conversation with someone and he said thats "pretty good" But I've also seen other people calling it "pretty lifeless"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW2EgDGsyTU

This beats It in my opinion. Nothing lifeless about this Piccolo action scene.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 74

Post by iAnimationLover_ » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:39 pm

Mazingerdestro wrote:
Ajay wrote:
Mazingerdestro wrote:Sorry but nothing on the series you mentioned shout "exciting" to me. Op in terms of animation is pretty mediocre with few episodes been good and most been average.
Tiger mask w is one of my favorite toei series but again excluding the consistency, I am not impressed. None of the battles went crazy with the animation (not even the yellow devil battle).
Excluding the openings, Toei animation's shows are not spectacular nowadays. Yes they might have 1 awesome cut every 30 episodes but that's it.
What do you consider good animation, out of curiosity? Like, can you post examples? You call One Piece mediocre, Tiger Mask W unimpressive, and lump all of Toei's shows into a barrel. Your standards terrify me. What constitutes 'good' to you?
I consider "nanbaka" and "all out" very good series and "hxh" was also a very good long running series. On the other hand, shows like "yowamushi pedal" and "
Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu: Yotarou Hourou-hen" are on the top of my list.

In general, I do not consider shows that suffer from many off model moments good.

In-truth, One piece's animation is not bad at all. what did you watch from one piece that you disliked? i dont follow one piece regularly but whenever i do watch an episode its mostly on-model

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 74

Post by Mazingerdestro » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:48 pm

iAnimationLover_ wrote: In-truth, One piece's animation is not bad at all. what did you watch from one piece that you disliked? i dont follow one piece regularly but whenever i do watch an episode its mostly on-model
I didn't dislike anything. It's not a matter of love or hate. It's just that since punk hazard the episode's got boring and lifeless for me.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 74

Post by kinisking » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:53 pm

HybridSaiyan wrote:
iAnimationLover_ wrote:So, what do you guys think of this cut from Yamamuro?



[spoiler]

[/spoiler]





I was in a conversation with someone and he said thats "pretty good" But I've also seen other people calling it "pretty lifeless"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW2EgDGsyTU

This beats It in my opinion. Nothing lifeless about this Piccolo action scene.
I agree but I do like how the ROF clip is constant action and imo better animated. The cooler clip wins simply because the choreography, angles and diverse locations. I forgot how bad the cooler movie looks in comparison to a lot of the other DBZ movies. Imo it just looks like something out of the show.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 74

Post by FortuneSSJ » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:54 pm

Who did Goku vs Krillin fight in this last episode?
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 74

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:55 pm

A bit late to the news, but I don't think there's anything to worry about with the announcement of the new Sailor Moon anime, especially since no other details about when the anime will premier or last.

Super will be just fine.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 74

Post by HybridSaiyan » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:08 pm

kinisking wrote:
HybridSaiyan wrote:
iAnimationLover_ wrote:So, what do you guys think of this cut from Yamamuro?



[spoiler]

[/spoiler]





I was in a conversation with someone and he said thats "pretty good" But I've also seen other people calling it "pretty lifeless"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW2EgDGsyTU

This beats It in my opinion. Nothing lifeless about this Piccolo action scene.
I agree but I do like how the ROF clip is constant action and imo better animated. The cooler clip wins simply because the choreography, angles and diverse locations. I forgot how bad the cooler movie looks in comparison to a lot of the other DBZ movies. Imo it just looks like something out of the show.
Yeah, Old Toei actually displayed the tension necessarily and made It look like trouble arrived, focused on good screenplay, more detail on facial expression too imo. Everything feels more "real?" I just can't get use to modern DBZ artstyle :cry:

There's a few second clip in the Vegito vs Zamasu fight that appeared to use oldschool quick punching frames, and it looked bloody amazing. Why can't they offer that level of animation on a weekly bases?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 74

Post by iAnimationLover_ » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:10 pm

HybridSaiyan wrote:
There's a few second clip in the Vegito vs Zamasu fight that appeared to use oldschool quick punching frames, and it looked bloody amazing


Can you show me please? I'm curious now :lol:

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 74

Post by HybridSaiyan » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:14 pm

iAnimationLover_ wrote:
HybridSaiyan wrote:
There's a few second clip in the Vegito vs Zamasu fight that appeared to use oldschool quick punching frames, and it looked bloody amazing


Can you show me please? I'm curious now :lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIFK-XI4W_U

skip to 3:15

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 74

Post by Ajay » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:51 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:Who did Goku vs Krillin fight in this last episode?
Koji Nashizawa, most likely.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 74

Post by kinisking » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:36 pm

HybridSaiyan wrote:
iAnimationLover_ wrote:
HybridSaiyan wrote:
There's a few second clip in the Vegito vs Zamasu fight that appeared to use oldschool quick punching frames, and it looked bloody amazing


Can you show me please? I'm curious now :lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIFK-XI4W_U

skip to 3:15

Reminds me of the DBZ we all know and love TwT
https://youtu.be/iKdNzhNt8f0?t=3m41s I think this did it better actually.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 74

Post by ArchedThunder » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:39 pm

Ajay wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote:Who did Goku vs Krillin fight in this last episode?
Koji Nashizawa, most likely.
I wonder what Kenji Miuma did.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by Ajay » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:13 pm

Episode 75

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

There we go!

I've also managed to catch up on my video series for those who have been following along with it.

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ArchedThunder wrote:I wonder what Kenji Miuma did.
I wonder, too. I asked a 'Miuma expert' and they couldn't pick anything out, either. I guess he just did dialogue scenes this week. That's probably/hopefully a good thing.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by Shreyas_Singh » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:01 am

If Higashide leaves we're doomed :lol:
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by ArchedThunder » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:15 am

Ajay wrote:Episode 75

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

There we go!

I've also managed to catch up on my video series for those who have been following along with it.

Anxiously awaiting another Nashizawa and Itai episode so I can finally add some new names to the main page. So close now!

I think due to how funky Wanpack's episodes can be, I may just give them a studio label and just showcase the generic style that's associated with their work. If we end up cracking them 100% one day, then I can easily change it.
Great job as always.
Shreyas_Singh wrote:If Higashide leaves we're doomed :lol:
He can't quit, clearly he's actually a machine they created.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by Mazingerdestro » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:42 am

ArchedThunder wrote: He can't quit, clearly he's actually a machine they created.
Stop calling him a machine, it's insulting!!!!
He is clearly an android.
They just modified his arms so he can constantly draw and his brain so he doesn't need to sleep.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 74

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kinisking wrote:
HybridSaiyan wrote:[quote ="iAnimationLover_"]



Can you show me please? I'm curious now :lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIFK-XI4W_U

skip to 3:15

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