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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:51 pm

I hate the fact that everyone is shipping Female Broly with Cabba. :x

Also I absolutely despise power scaling. And I have seen what it can do.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kokonoe » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:17 pm

This probably isn't unpopular, but maybe it is? Anyway, haha, I think Battle of the Gods just all around is a terrible movie. The fight scenes were some of the lamest I've witnessed in an anime, which is surprising since its DBZ, and the over abundance of CG made things tacky and aesthetically unpleasing.

The power scaling was very odd as Beerus can easily defeat the Z fighters, yet his slap didn't kill Bulma? Like, this is the guy who legit doesn't care for his actions and will kill without moments notice, and yet his godly slap was held back so much that it didn't even injure Bulma? And as far as the powerscaling goes, they had Gotenks and Mystic Gohan fighting Beerus and not get far, yet because Bulma gets slapped somehow that causes him to do more damage despite being in a lower level state of Super Saiyan.

The idea of a Super Saiyan "God" is laughable and just feels so out of place for narrative and history of the series. It's clearly there to extend the series at any means necessary, but the icing on the cake is an unborn child inside the womb was able to give the strength to channel this form. I just....can't even begin to describe how ridiculous and hilarious that is at the same time.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:19 pm

Kokonoe wrote:This probably isn't unpopular, but maybe it is? Anyway, haha, I think Battle of the Gods just all around is a terrible movie. The fight scenes were some of the lamest I've witnessed in an anime, which is surprising since its DBZ, and the over abundance of CG made things tacky and aesthetically unpleasing.

The power scaling was very odd as Beerus can easily defeat the Z fighters, yet his slap didn't kill Bulma? Like, this is the guy who legit doesn't care for his actions and will kill without moments notice, and yet his godly slap was held back so much that it didn't even injure Bulma? And as far as the powerscaling goes, they had Gotenks and Mystic Gohan fighting Beerus and not get far, yet because Bulma gets slapped somehow that causes him to do more damage despite being in a lower level state of Super Saiyan.

The idea of a Super Saiyan "God" is laughable and just feels so out of place for narrative and history of the series. It's clearly there to extend the series at any means necessary, but the icing on the cake is an unborn child inside the womb was able to give the strength to channel this form. I just....can't even begin to describe how ridiculous and hilarious that is at the same time.

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That is the most unpopular opinion on this site, and nearly every site. Its not probably an unpopular opinion, that is THE unpopular opinion

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kokonoe » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:25 pm

Gog wrote:That is the most unpopular opinion on this site, and nearly every site. Its not probably an unpopular opinion, that is THE unpopular opinion
That sarcasm cuts deep. I will now walk into the sunset never to return again in shame...

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:26 pm

Kokonoe wrote:
Gog wrote:That is the most unpopular opinion on this site, and nearly every site. Its not probably an unpopular opinion, that is THE unpopular opinion
That sarcasm cuts deep. I will now walk into the sunset never to return again in shame...
No, that's not sarcasm, that is literally one of the single most unpopular opinion's on this site. I'm not actually kidding here.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kokonoe » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:28 pm

Gog wrote:
Kokonoe wrote:
Gog wrote:That is the most unpopular opinion on this site, and nearly every site. Its not probably an unpopular opinion, that is THE unpopular opinion
That sarcasm cuts deep. I will now walk into the sunset never to return again in shame...
No, that's not sarcasm, that is literally one of the single most unpopular opinion's on this site. I'm not actually kidding here.
Haha, wow. People even like the womb scene?

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:29 pm

Kokonoe wrote:
Gog wrote:
Kokonoe wrote: That sarcasm cuts deep. I will now walk into the sunset never to return again in shame...
No, that's not sarcasm, that is literally one of the single most unpopular opinion's on this site. I'm not actually kidding here.
Haha, wow. People even like the womb scene?
Yes, it's considered to be the best dragon ball movie. Of all time, and that includes that as well.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Doctor. » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:30 pm

It's considered the best DB movie, but I don't think anyone seriously defends the SSG ritual.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by rereboy » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:33 pm

Meh, it's overrated. I certainly enjoyed other DB movies more and I don't think that it's the one with the best quality regardless of the enjoyment factor.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:33 pm

Who calls it the "womb scene"?

I enjoyed it a lot, and that's what matters.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:35 pm

Doctor. wrote:It's considered the best DB movie, but I don't think anyone seriously defends the SSG ritual.
I like the SSG ritual, its the best way to achieve a form in my opinion, besides super saiyan.

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Post by Anime Kitten » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:36 pm

Gog wrote:I hate the fact that everyone is shipping Female Broly with Cabba. :x
I dislike pretty much every last Super ship myself. :P
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:40 pm

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Gog wrote:I hate the fact that everyone is shipping Female Broly with Cabba. :x
I dislike pretty much every last Super ship myself. :P
E-EVEN VADOS X FREEZA?!? THE BEST SHIP IN THE WORLD!!?!?! How dare you!!! :lol:

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kokonoe » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:43 pm

Gog wrote:Yes, it's considered to be the best dragon ball movie. Of all time, and that includes that as well.
The best? I...guess I just don't see it. Like, from so many angles it doesn't do it for me. Like if it had actually entertaining fights, I could watch it for that but it has a lot of stalling and lack of motion in them.

If the story actually fit in with the previous series and didn't feel so outright different in terms of how characters personalities are portrayed or the way the powers are obtained then I'd be able to probably latch on to the story.

It honestly, for me, felt like a step back in every way imaginable. Of course, with that said, it's all opinions. I'm still rather surprised at how unpopular my opinion is, however. Crazy how that works.
ABED wrote:Who calls it the "womb scene"?

I enjoyed it a lot, and that's what matters.
I guess without stepping on too many toes here, for me It's actually a pretty ludicrous scene for the series that the idea that a child in the womb would channel said form and thus, it's the first thing that comes to mind. I'm actually critical of some of the transformations in the Buu saga as well.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Anime Kitten » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:45 pm

Gog wrote:E-EVEN VADOS X FREEZA?!? THE BEST SHIP IN THE WORLD!!?!?! How dare you!!! :lol:
I never actually saw that one, but yeah, that too. :twisted:

Another unpopular opinion: I'd like to see arcs in Super (filler or not) with rare character combinations. I've always wanted more Videl and Goten, for example. Of course, other ones such as Piccolo and Bulma, Beerus and Piccolo, etc.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:46 pm

Kokonoe wrote:Yes, it's considered to be the best dragon ball movie. Of all time, and that includes that as well.
The best? I...guess I just don't see it. Like, from so many angles it doesn't do it for me. Like if it had actually entertaining fights, I could watch it for that but it has a lot of stalling and lack of motion in them.

If the story actually fit in with the previous series and didn't feel so outright different in terms of how characters personalities are portrayed or the way the powers are obtained then I'd be able to probably latch on to the story.

It honestly, for me, felt like a step back in every way imaginable. Of course, with that said, it's all opinions. I'm still rather surprised at how unpopular my opinion is, however. Crazy how that works.[/quote]

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Noah » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:48 pm

Kokonoe wrote:This probably isn't unpopular, but maybe it is? Anyway, haha, I think Battle of the Gods just all around is a terrible movie. The fight scenes were some of the lamest I've witnessed in an anime, which is surprising since its DBZ, and the over abundance of CG made things tacky and aesthetically unpleasing.

The power scaling was very odd as Beerus can easily defeat the Z fighters, yet his slap didn't kill Bulma? Like, this is the guy who legit doesn't care for his actions and will kill without moments notice, and yet his godly slap was held back so much that it didn't even injure Bulma? And as far as the powerscaling goes, they had Gotenks and Mystic Gohan fighting Beerus and not get far, yet because Bulma gets slapped somehow that causes him to do more damage despite being in a lower level state of Super Saiyan.

The idea of a Super Saiyan "God" is laughable and just feels so out of place for narrative and history of the series. It's clearly there to extend the series at any means necessary, but the icing on the cake is an unborn child inside the womb was able to give the strength to channel this form. I just....can't even begin to describe how ridiculous and hilarious that is at the same time.

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You have some valid points that I agree with. BoG is pretty overrated, it's was enjoyable for me but not as Movie 9, 12 and 13.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:51 pm

I guess without stepping on too many toes here, for me It's actually a pretty ludicrous scene for the series that the idea that a child in the womb would channel said form and thus, it's the first thing that comes to mind. I'm actually critical of some of the transformations in the Buu saga as well.
It's the mother, not the child that gives Goku the energy.
If the story actually fit in with the previous series and didn't feel so outright different in terms of how characters personalities are portrayed or the way the powers are obtained then I'd be able to probably latch on to the story.
Other than Vegeta, who was different?

I prefer BoG to 13. 13 is okay, but the bad guy is just a giant monster, which is not nearly as interesting as a character with a personality.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:51 pm

Noah wrote:
Kokonoe wrote:This probably isn't unpopular, but maybe it is? Anyway, haha, I think Battle of the Gods just all around is a terrible movie. The fight scenes were some of the lamest I've witnessed in an anime, which is surprising since its DBZ, and the over abundance of CG made things tacky and aesthetically unpleasing.

The power scaling was very odd as Beerus can easily defeat the Z fighters, yet his slap didn't kill Bulma? Like, this is the guy who legit doesn't care for his actions and will kill without moments notice, and yet his godly slap was held back so much that it didn't even injure Bulma? And as far as the powerscaling goes, they had Gotenks and Mystic Gohan fighting Beerus and not get far, yet because Bulma gets slapped somehow that causes him to do more damage despite being in a lower level state of Super Saiyan.

The idea of a Super Saiyan "God" is laughable and just feels so out of place for narrative and history of the series. It's clearly there to extend the series at any means necessary, but the icing on the cake is an unborn child inside the womb was able to give the strength to channel this form. I just....can't even begin to describe how ridiculous and hilarious that is at the same time.

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You have some valid points that I agree with. BoG is pretty overrated, it's was enjoyable for me but not as Movie 9, 12 and 13 IMO.
It's not an overrated film. Its just that you have different tastes, and opinions like any dead boy, put in a virtual world.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Doctor. » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:54 pm

The fight between Beerus and Goku isn't engaging because of the visuals, but because of the dialogue. I commend the film for trying something new with Goku and going deeper into his psyche.

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