"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Gig]

...Goku and Vegeta are basically mortals so they become blue, while Black has a god soul so he becomes pink instead.

Out of context, that sounds all well and good, doesn't it? However, when this was said, both Zamasu's already knew about SSB and were actively fighting against it, which makes your interpretation that remark pretty nonsensical in-context. Zamasu wouldn't say "Pink must be what comes after SSG unless Blue", which they were actively fighting against, didn't surpass SSG. That's a continuity error.

Maybe you are forgetting that SS forms are multipliers... if base Black is stronger than base Vegeta, SSR Black would be stronger than SSB Vegeta even in case SSRosè and SSBlue have the same exact multiplier. And I never said it's the "same exact" multiplier, but that probably it's similar.

Maybe you are asking how can Zamasu know about the Red form?

[dbgtFO]

...Goku and Vegeta are basically mortals so they become blue, while Black has a god soul so he becomes pink instead.

Out of context, that sounds all well and good, doesn't it? However, when this was said, both Zamasu's already knew about SSB and were actively fighting against it, which makes your interpretation that remark pretty nonsensical in-context. Zamasu wouldn't say "Pink must be what comes after SSG unless Blue", which they were actively fighting against, didn't surpass SSG. That's a continuity error.

Maybe you are forgetting that SS forms are multipliers... if base Black is stronger than base Vegeta, SSR Black would be stronger than SSB Vegeta even in case SSRosè and SSBlue have the same exact multiplier. And I never said it's the "same exact" multiplier, but that probably it's similar.

Maybe you are asking how can Zamasu know about the Red form?

It's simple logic, really. I don't understand why he doesn't understand it, so elaboration would be appreciated.
"So when a god surpasses Super Saiyan God, they become light pink, rather than blue?!" Where is the confusion and continuity error?
Both Rosé and Blue surpasses God, but Rosé is speculated to be pink, because it's a god achieving it.

[TKA]

Hey I just found a cool pic from youngjijii

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Looks really subpar compared to what's in the chapter. The characters are much less expressive and the art is much less vibrant. Competently drawn, to be sure, but lacks that certain je ne sais quoi.

Think whatever you want, I'm going by what the chapter actually says.

That's what the chapter says that. It's a parallel form to Blue, but because a god is using the form instead of a regular saiyan, it's pink instead of blue.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Hey I just found a cool pic from youngjijii

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Looks really subpar compared to what's in the chapter. The characters are much less expressive and the art is much less vibrant. Competently drawn, to be sure, but lacks that certain je ne sais quoi.

I like his SSRose much better than Toyo's.

[TheUltimateNinja]

...Goku and Vegeta are basically mortals so they become blue, while Black has a god soul so he becomes pink instead.

Out of context, that sounds all well and good, doesn't it? However, when this was said, both Zamasu's already knew about SSB and were actively fighting against it, which makes your interpretation that remark pretty nonsensical in-context. Zamasu wouldn't say "Pink must be what comes after SSG unless Blue", which they were actively fighting against, didn't surpass SSG. That's a continuity error.

I don't understand how you came to this conclusion. "So when a God surpasses Super Saiyan God, they turn pink instead of blue?" I don't see how this statement could be interpreted as SSRose > SSBlue, it clearly suggests that since Black is a God he turns pink rather than blue like mortals.

[mfwlegend3]

This might be out of the blue, but I never really liked the way Toyo draws Goku's base hairstyle and facial expressions. It looks so... mediocre(?), in comparison to how Toriyama and a handful of the artists over at Toei often draw him.

I much prefer the appearance of Young Jijii's take on Goku.[spoiler][/spoiler]

[Cetra]

I think they both failed at drawing that transformation. It just does not appeal to me other than the anime version.

[mfwlegend3]

that transformation.

I assume you're talking about Rose? If so, I agree. I believe the transformation ever really worked well in the anime because of how visually appealing it was (at times). Toyo's version of Rose is definitely an interesting take on it though, IMHO.

[Ki Breaker]

I think they both failed at drawing that transformation. It just does not appeal to me other than the anime version.

It's quite the opposite fot me, the anime version never grew on me, but the manga version looks pretty decent..

[MyNiggaGoku]

I think they both failed at drawing that transformation. It just does not appeal to me other than the anime version.

I love both versions tbh.Episode 56 in general is my absolute favourite from Super & chapter 20 is my favourite chapter so far.Each one is pretty good in its own way.

[mute_proxy]

Is there a high quality RAW page of SSRose transformation online?

[MyNiggaGoku]

Is there a high quality RAW page of SSRose transformation online?

You mean with no english translation at all?

[mute_proxy]

Is there a high quality RAW page of SSRose transformation online?

You mean with no english translation at all?

Yup, only the japanese text, and in decent resolution

[MyNiggaGoku]

Is there a high quality RAW page of SSRose transformation online?

You mean with no english translation at all?

Yup, only the japanese text, and in decent resolution

I will pm you the 1 I have

[The gr]

I just reread this chapter here my thoughts on it

-this is the best chapter of The ft arc after the mediocre chapter 17 18 and average 16 this one is impressive the Same could be applied with chapter 14 and 15

-i love Goku black and zamasu dynamic and I love the fact black is obsessed with pain to exploit the zenkai my favorite trait of him is here pain make him stronger and SS rose man thank Toyo and toei for making that form epic

- I'm also impressed that toyotaro made zamasu a badass like seriously burning the senzu bag and using his telekinesis to paralise Goku that is just awesome

-and this chapter has tension something that some of the other chapter are lacking off like chapter 19

-trunks and Mai did something cool which I appreciate through is BS that ft trunks was damaging Goku black

- and I love the fact that Goku come up with a strategy to stop Goku black and zamasu which is a cool little detail

and now the things that I don't like from this chapter - trunks damaging SS rose black

-I'm mixed about the mafuba

-goku powered down in to ss1 for no reason i hate that scene

overall ,this chapter is a 8/10

[RehBeh]

A good chapter overall but two things bothered me.

The first was that SSJ Black was equal and able to do damage to Vegeta Blue. That was almost as bad as Base Black withstanding SSB Vegeta in the anime. I'm sure they did to make Black look menacing and strong, but still it felt weird, to me atleast.

The second part, where Goku for some unknown reason turned from Blue to Blonde. Why ?

Apart from those two i enjoyed this chapter. Toyataro's SSJ Rose was on fantastic.

[Chelentano]

The second part, where Goku for some unknown reason turned from Blue to Blonde. Why ?

There's not a good reason for that. I think that he simply powered down when he saw that Zamasu was not a menace power-wise.

[RehBeh]

The second part, where Goku for some unknown reason turned from Blue to Blonde. Why ?

There's not a good reason for that. I think that he simply powered down when he saw that Zamasu was not a menace power-wise.

Yeah, but that's kinda stupid considering that Vegeta was pummelled by Black at the same time.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

The second part, where Goku for some unknown reason turned from Blue to Blonde. Why ?

There's not a good reason for that. I think that he simply powered down when he saw that Zamasu was not a menace power-wise.

Yeah, but that's kinda stupid considering that Vegeta was pummelled by Black at the same time.

Vegeta didn't want help, which Goku respects, and Goku still had senzu so he wasn't worried.

[RehBeh]

There's not a good reason for that. I think that he simply powered down when he saw that Zamasu was not a menace power-wise.

Yeah, but that's kinda stupid considering that Vegeta was pummelled by Black at the same time.

Vegeta didn't want help, which Goku respects, and Goku still had senzu so he wasn't worried.

That seems about right.