Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by BakaManiaHD » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:31 pm

Wow, the next episode preview has some episode 4 vibes
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:32 pm

BakaManiaHD wrote:Wow, the next episode preview has some episode 4 vibes
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I wasn't able to catch the episode live, but I did see a potato cam recording of the NEP and I saw a lot of what looked like polished Yashima.

EDIT: extended PV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si64NzMi88k
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:33 pm

This was quite a weird episode. There were quite ugly looking shots off some of the villains but when Shimanuki was on point, he was on point.

Is it me or did the NEP have a weirdly fascinating style to it? Like an Episode 4 vibe to it.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by Sodhi » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:34 pm

It seems they change the color palette a bit. I don't see any yashima in the NEP either.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:35 pm

Wow, the staff list for today is weird, Itai again, Paul Ano-nuevo returns, only 5 animators and a whole 5 2nd key animators(3 are korean again). Without seeing the episode I get the feeling it was just kinda scraped together, but that's probably a good thing. Shimanuki provides no animation, very interesting.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by Ajay » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:37 pm

Episode 76

Animation supervisors
Paul Ano-nuevo Shimanuki Masahiro Itai Hiroyuki

Key animator
Higashide Futoshi Inaba Jin Nikaido Atsushi Sasakado Nobuyoshi Itai Hiroyuki

2nd key animator
Shimanuki Masahiro Tsuji Miyako Kim Jung-chul Kim Jin-yoing Park Sun-kyung TAP A-Line Studio Myu


Reminded me a lot of episode 64 in terms of animation... as in, there wasn't much of it.

Seems like Higashide (and I guess Inaba, too) dominates the first half with a bunch of Tsuji corrections for some of the other animators, while Shimanuki handles the second with a little less Tusji.

I spotted Itai right at the end of the episode, so I guess that confirms him, then. That's a good feeling.

The NEP looks interesting. Lots of very thick line art. I really like the look of that. Will be interesting to take a look at who's involved, there. Not feeling the soft glow filter, though.

Toei posted up an extended preview of the OP. Pretty much what we saw, but we get a marginally longer look at the cuts - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si64NzMi88k
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:39 pm

So sounds like a simple slap together job for today's episode with heavy correction work to keep it together then? As I said, probably for the best with the next arc coming up now.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by JulieYBM » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:41 pm

Ugh. This is our third time getting the return of old enemies and once again we got no good animation.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:42 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Ugh. This is our third time getting the return of old enemies and once again we got no good animation.
With the next arc starting it was for the best to not put too much into this episode.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by BakaManiaHD » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:45 pm

Toei has just released a new video about the next arc
Wow, the color palete is so much better in my opinion, the NEP episode preview and this trailer shows some great contrast and ambient light.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:46 pm

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JulieYBM wrote:Ugh. This is our third time getting the return of old enemies and once again we got no good animation.
With the next arc starting it was for the best to not put too much into this episode.
But the last episode had a fantastic storyboard and this really good cut of action from Higashide. So it really does make you wonder just how much Toei are spreading and prioritising their resources, don't you think?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by kinisking » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:49 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Ugh. This is our third time getting the return of old enemies and once again we got no good animation.
With the next arc starting it was for the best to not put too much into this episode.
But the last episode had a fantastic storyboard and this really good cut of action from Higashide. So it really does make you wonder just how much Toei are spreading and prioritising their resources, don't you think?
Considering that was an anomaly, and that everything in the NEP looks pretty good I'd say they're doing a good job.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by neolux » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:50 pm

It's funny how people are saying that the animation has changed and the "animation" looks better based on how the color palette looks smoother in the preview and how this can really make a big difference in people. But if the animation it's going to be great in the next episode remains to be seen. I hope those 10 weeks of fillers makes a great impact in the consistency of the art to say the least, and that we get less off models shots.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by Sodhi » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:52 pm

I am not fond of the new color palette/filter. I did like the NEP for all the other reasons though. Thick character art, seemingly decent animation, impact frames etc.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by kinisking » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:54 pm

neolux wrote:It's funny how people are saying that the animation has changed and the "animation" looks better based on how the color palette looks smoother in the preview and how this can really make a big difference in people. But if the animation it's going to be great in the next episode remains to be seen. I hope those 10 weeks of fillers makes a great impact in the consistency of the art to say the least, and that we get less off models shots.
I actually don't like the color change that much right now.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by Gashif Aldi » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:55 pm

Super Saiyan Goku Aura in the preview looks so damn vibrant.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by neolux » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:56 pm

kinisking wrote:
neolux wrote:It's funny how people are saying that the animation has changed and the "animation" looks better based on how the color palette looks smoother in the preview and how this can really make a big difference in people. But if the animation it's going to be great in the next episode remains to be seen. I hope those 10 weeks of fillers makes a great impact in the consistency of the art to say the least, and that we get less off models shots.
I actually don't like the color change that much right now.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by kinisking » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:59 pm

neolux wrote:
kinisking wrote:
neolux wrote:It's funny how people are saying that the animation has changed and the "animation" looks better based on how the color palette looks smoother in the preview and how this can really make a big difference in people. But if the animation it's going to be great in the next episode remains to be seen. I hope those 10 weeks of fillers makes a great impact in the consistency of the art to say the least, and that we get less off models shots.
I actually don't like the color change that much right now.
Neither Do I. As Ajay said on twitter. Looks like a dream haha
What if it's a flashback ?
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:01 pm

I hope the thick line work is something used throughout the entire arc and beyond, it looks great.

Anyways, I'm surprised you guys didn't notice Yashima in the NEP, he's pretty visible in a few shots, but it seems he's either altered his style to be more on model, the extra time allowed him to be more on model or he's being partially corrected. When I get my hands on an HD version of the NEP I can take some pictures to show you guys.

EDIT: A quick example from the Fuji TV website upload.
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Yashima's distinct head profile is on display here, but more polished.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 75

Post by Ajay » Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:44 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:Anyways, I'm surprised you guys didn't notice Yashima in the NEP,
To be fair, I think most people who commented immediately weren't watching through sources in particularly good quality.

Just finished seeing it in HD. The scene you mentioned, one shot of Vegeta, and Goku at the end do seem to have Yashima traits. Definitely some 2nd KA or CAD corrections going on there, at a guess.

I wonder if Ishikawa's with him.

I'm just interested in who's decided on the line work.
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