Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

[iAnimationLover_]

I'm guessing that filter is only there for the preview to add in for the new PV.

[ArchedThunder]

As for whether Hatano Morio will become SD again, we'll have to wait and see. I highly doubt he'll be 1st credited again. I'll be more than happy to be wrong though.

I'm feeling pretty confident that Hatano Morio will still be credited as Series Director in episode 77, probably even the sole person credited in the role as well.

I'm guessing that filter is only there for the preview to add in for the new PV.

The colors for the opening animation don't match, so I doubt that. The filter is also present on the NEP version of the footage.

[Shreyas_Singh]

Dragon ball Kai -Green version
Dragon ball Super - oversaturated pallete
Why,Toei,why?

[ArchedThunder]

It's literally the opposite of over saturated, the filter washes the colors out...

[dhaval_dongre]

The art was on model most of the time, but hardly any animation. Storyboard wasn't that interesting either, looked like another rushed one. It was a very conservative episode. But I am glad about that. At the least they are saving some resources for the next arc. Last week's episode was semi conservative I guess. The 2nd KAs for that episode were from A-Line I suppose, because I saw them credited in the ED.

But the NEP, wtf ? Such a drastic change in the color palette, I really doubt it was Yamamuro's decision. Was it someone else's decision, probably someone new whom we haven't seen in the series before ? Will be interesting to see, who's decision it was. Looking forward to next week.

[Sodhi]

Color decisions can either come from episode director or series director.
This is the comparison I borrowed from zztoastie in Twitter of old and new

[dhaval_dongre]

Color decisions can either come from episode director or series director.
This is the comparison I borrowed from zztoastie in Twiiter of old and new

Its interesting, because we have never seen something like this in Super before.

[ArchedThunder]

The art was on model most of the time, but hardly any animation. Storyboard wasn't that interesting either, looked like another rushed one. It was a very conservative episode. But I am glad about that. At the least they are saving some resources for the next arc. Last week's episode was semi conservative I guess. The 2nd KAs for that episode were from A-Line I suppose, because I saw them credited in the ED.

Here's the 2nd Key list for the episode;
Shimanuki Masahiro, Tsuji Miyako, Kim Jung-chul, Kim Jin-yoing, Park Sun-kyung, TAP, A-Line, Studio Myu
So 5 individuals credited, 3 of which were from Korea (and have never worked on Super before) and 3 studios. Compare to the key animator list;
Higashide Futoshi, Inaba Jin, Nikaido Atsushi, Sasakado Nobuyoshi, Itai Hiroyuki
5 people, 3 of which just showed up on 73, 1 on 74 and 1 on 75.
This in combination with the fact that Shiminuki yet again barely touched this episode and a lot of his corrections being below his normal quality make it very clear this episode was simply slapped together in a short amount of time and the low key animator count shows they didn't care how the animation turned out and were more worried about the art. I imagine this is because focus has now completely shifted to the next arc.

Color decisions can either come from episode director or series director.
This is the comparison I borrowed from zztoastie in Twitter of old and new

Seems like the varying line thickness might be a post effect too.

[dhaval_dongre]

I was talking about 75 when I mentioned A-Line. Should have been more clear about that.

[ArchedThunder]

I was talking about 75 when I mentioned A-Line. Should have been more clear about that.

Whoops, my bad, just reread your post.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

It could be a Karasawa Kazuya decision. If that's the case then it'll only be a one time thing. Or maybe, the series director, Hatano Kouhei wants to change the overall feel and look of the show. If that, then it could be permanent.

[dhaval_dongre]

I was talking about 75 when I mentioned A-Line. Should have been more clear about that.

Whoops, my bad, just reread your post.

Nah, its fine. Happens with me as well.

[ArchedThunder]

The colors in the NEP on my rip of the episode are brighter than zztoastie's image.

It could be a Karasawa Kazuya decision. If that's the case then it'll only be a one time thing. Or maybe, the series director, Hatano Kouhei wants to change the overall feel and look of the show. If that, then it could be permanent.

Or Hatano Morio...

I highly doubt they'd allow an episode director to do something like this randomly.

[Gashif Aldi]

What about the PV color palette? Does it look fine? I mean I liked it. It looked like a tuned down version of the 77 preview.
But, I'm sure they'll fix the color palette a bit. It's good, but weird. Maybe episode 78?

[ArchedThunder]

What about the PV color palette? Does it look fine? I mean I liked it. It looked like a tuned down version of the 77 preview.
But, I'm sure they'll fix the color palette a bit. It's good, but weird. Maybe episode 78?

As it is a post effect it's probably something they'll continue to tweak until they get it how they want it.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

Or Hatano Morio...

I highly doubt they'd allow an episode director to do something like this randomly.

Episode directors are given more freedom than you'd think, of course the SD will have the last word, but the style of an ED is what dominates the episode. So, it's possible that Karasawa Kazuya emphasized more on the colors.

Though, this is the case with passion projects with a good schedule and DBS is nothing like that, so yeah maybe it could just be the SD wanting to change the overall look. It could also be the NEP was put together as fast as possible to meet broadcast and the episode will look nothing like it. We will have to wait and see.

[dhaval_dongre]

Does the ED haves the authority over Yamamuro when it comes to things like this ? What if Yamamuro didn't like it but the ED still went ahead with the new color palette ? Because I cannot imagine such a drastic change to happen under Yamamuro's supervision. It may also be the case that Yamamuro is still missing from the series like always.

And regarding the color palette, it is definitely a step in the right direction, but it still needs some fixing. Looks like they added it right before the broadcast. It worked very well with Zeno's place, but for the rest of the shots, the brightness was a bit too much. I think that it will still undergo a few tweaks before the episode airs though.

[Sodhi]

Yamamuro has no say on the what the directors want to do with the series. All he does are designs, which they follow. He can also advise animation supervisors on how do corrections, to make sure they stay close to his CDs.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

Does the ED haves the authority over Yamamuro when it comes to things like this ? What if Yamamuro didn't like it but the ED still went ahead with the new color palette ? Because I cannot imagine such a drastic change to happen under Yamamuro's supervision. It may also be the case that Yamamuro is still missing from the series like always.

Yamamuro, if he is CAD or AD would be in charge of the animation side of things of that episode. He will work with the ED, but it'll be the ED's instructions that he as well as the rest of the staff of that episode will have to follow. That's what usually happens in every show.

Now, since this is Yamamuro we are talking about who is pretty much friends with higher-ups, so who knows maybe he has his say even regarding other departments' matters. I don't want to blame Yamamuro without any evidence though. I'll stick with my assumption that it's the ED's decision. If #78 also has the same color palette then it is pretty much the SD's decision.

[ArchedThunder]

Due to Shimanuki's touch being incredibly light in this episode and him not even providing any animation as well as the unexpected return of Paul Ano-nuevo and the quick reappearance of Itai I decided to go back and update my predictions. I also went into a bit more detail on what I think the episodes will be and the staff sizes.

[spoiler]77- Supervisor-Yashima (8 weeks since last supervised, 2 since last animation). Solo animated, heavy corrections by Ide and 2nd key animators. Primarily a set up episode.

78- Supervisor-Takamura (10 weeks since last supervised), potentially with a non regular supporting. Small to medium animation staff size(4-7 people), potentially heavy Tsuji corrections. Episode about gathering the team.

79- Supervisor- Ishikawa (9 weeks since last supervised). Medium animation staff size (6-8 people). Episode is about training.

80- Supervisor- Shimanuki (4 weeks since last supervised, 10 since last animation). Medium animation staff size (6-8 people). Episode is about arriving at the tournament and introducting some new characters.
Extra comment: I believe Shimanuki was working on this episode at the same time as 76 and potentially started at some point during the production of 71.

81- Supervisor- Karasawa (10 weeks since last supervised, 16 since last animation). Relatively large animation staff size (10-14 people). At least one non regular, great animator shows up (example: Shida). Episode is the start of the tournament.
Extra comment: I believe this episode is why Karasawa provided no animation and very few corrections for 72, that's not to say that I think he's been working on the episode for 16 weeks though. 12-14 sounds about right. If Morio is still Series Director I think this episode may be directed and storyboarded by him.

82- Supervisor- Tate (11 weeks since last supervised)+ Studio Wanpack, Ono (8 weeks since last supervised) and Kinoshita(15 weeks since last supervised). Very large animation staff size because of Wanpack(20-25 people). Tsuji also provides heavy corrections of Wanpack animation and potentially on Tate if his work on the new OP affects him here.

83- Supervisor- Kitano (9 weeks since last supervised), potentially with another person (Itai, Manabe or Nashizawa maybe?). Medium to large animation staff size (7-12). Animation is conservative, potentially with a bit of great animation done by a non regular, great animator(Otsuka maybe?).
Extra comment: I wouldn't be surprised if Kitano started work on this episode during the production of 74, but I'm not as confident on that as I am with Shimanuki and Karasawa.

84- Supervisor- Unexpected supervisor or supervisors (Either people from TAP, the return of Toma and/or a brand new supervisor or supervisors). No comment on animation staff.[/spoiler]


And that's as far as I want to predict, but I think supervisors will generally have 8-12 weeks between episodes with Yashima generally being on the lower end of that,while Karasawa and Tate would be on the upper end.

I'm anxious to see the next Newtype, though we won't get it until after the next episode. Hopefully they don't miss supervisors on any episodes like they did with 73 and 76.