Things that grind your gears

Cetra · Post by **Cetra** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:41 pm

Gog wrote:
Cetra wrote:
Gog wrote: You do know that sheep aren't asexual...

That point is relatively irrelevant because that Sheep was also part of a specific cloning process. And your post implied that whatever is cloned looks identical.

Gog · Post by **Gog** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:08 pm

Cetra wrote:
Gog wrote:
Cetra wrote:
That point is relatively irrelevant because that Sheep was also part of a specific cloning process. And your post implied that whatever is cloned looks identical.

I know, it just confused me a bit

sorry about that. But my point still holds up, the difference's between all of what we have seen is just to massive of a difference, for them to be asexual. Also if they were asexual, than Doctor. And my argument would just completely collapse into my favor

emi_b7 · Post by **emi_b7** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:17 pm

Well, asexual reproduction in fiction doesn't have to be equal to real life. The "sons" don't necessarily have to have the exact same DNA the "father" has the way, say, bacterias do. Maybe Freeza's race reproduction involves some sort of mutation or maybe they just put eggs and some random dude pops out, King Piccolo style

Anime Kitten · Post by **Anime Kitten** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:48 pm

It really irks me when people assume everyone on the forum is keeping up with the Super spoilers. Can't we just watch the show or read the manga without knowing what happens beforehand? That was one big reason I really enjoyed the Zamasu arc, especially episode 56.

Jinzoningen MULE · Post by **Jinzoningen MULE** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:13 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:Can't we just watch the show or read the manga without knowing what happens beforehand?

You're not entitled to that, no. If you don't want spoilers, the only wise course of action is to keep off of social media, forums, etc.

PelicanDynasty · Post by **PelicanDynasty** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:47 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
Anime Kitten wrote:Can't we just watch the show or read the manga without knowing what happens beforehand?
You're not entitled to that, no. If you don't want spoilers, the only wise course of action is to keep off of social media, forums, etc.

Yeah, as annoying as it is, I have to agree with this. Coming onto the forum is really just looking for trouble when it comes to spoilers.

Gog · Post by **Gog** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:36 am

You know, I was on the DBM English board, on the DBS sub section, and I ran upon this little jewel about Dragon ball Super's animation that just pissed me off endlessly.

I'll just link it, and post a few of the posts.

http://dbmenglish.freeforums.net/thread ... rs?page=20 (Ajay will get a kick out of this)

Actually I won't bother posting the posts, as I don't want to contaminate Kanzenshuu with the sheer amount of knowledge on there. But the general gist of it is that their complaining about Dragon Ball's super's animation, and how it's terrible especially considering that, Dragon ball super is such made by Toei. Than they went on to complain about how Dragon ball super is utter garbage. Even though Dragon Ball Multiverse is utter garbage compared to Dragon Ball Super. Than one of the poster's compared Dragon ball super's art to clay.

Than they all proceeded to say how Dragon Ball Super has fanboy's running it, when they all don't know how their being such hypocritical little schmucks, and that their inferior webcomic is literally run by a fan's.

And then they went on and on and on, about how Dragon ball super is made by proffesionals and it shouldn't be like this. Not knowing that Dragon Ball super's production was rushed to hell. Than another one says that Artisits were better back in the day, and all animators have just gotten worst.

I FUCKING CAN'T.

You know what Grind's my gear's fucking little Dragon Ball Multiverse Fan's shitting all over Dragon Ball Super despite not knowing anything about it.

ekrolo2 · Post by **ekrolo2** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:12 pm

Goku's first scene of letting Freeza go really irks me. Now, we all know Goku's a selfish guy, moments after telling Freeza he'd make him pay for killing the Saiyan's and the Namekian's he dicks around with the guy instead of beating him and only takes the fight seriously when he realizes the cards are stacked against him. Then Krillin dies and he once again dicks around with Freeza purely to test his might. Kind of iffy on its own since this guy did just kill his best friend but okay.

But him letting a perfectly physically fine Freeza go just because he's bored him seems like a pretty big fuck you to... everybody. Once again, not surprising since Goku rubs a big middle finger to everyone who died & got hurt in the Saiyan conflicts by letting Vegeta go, but this is really a bizarre choice for him.

Freeza's pissed off and even if he never attacked Goku or the Earth again afterward, chances are he would've taken his frustration out on the universe, probably wreaking a lot of havoc just for losing to a Saiyan monkey. All of this would result in lots more people dying (like the Saiyan's and Namekian's did) and lots of best friends (like Krillin) dropping like flies across the universe and Goku doesn't give the beginnings of a fuck about any of this.

I can kind of see his "live and let live" logic after helping Freeza following his decapitation. This guy who's species he wiped out and best friend he's killed just showed him mercy and chose to let him go, again, Freeza, in Goku's mind, would have to be a monumental cunt to not at least let things end here and go their separate ways. But the first instance he chooses to let him go? It feels counter to what he's purportedly out to do which is to avenge a bunch of people Freeza's killed. By letting him live so he can keep murdering more people.

I really wish this scene didn't exist and the story just had Freeza resort to using the faux Kienzan once he realized he can't beat Goku man to man then everything could proceed the same as we know afterward.

ABED · Post by **ABED** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:15 pm

I saw it as Goku breaking Freeza mentally. It's naïve and wrong to show Freeza mercy, but I see Goku's logic.

ekrolo2 · Post by **ekrolo2** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:19 pm

I know he's breaking him mentally but surely he realizes Freeza's just gonna keep murdering more people to vent his frustration, right? And at this point, Goku's sworn vengeance for two entire species and his best friend, it seems really moronic to just let this guy go.

The second time I can understand it: he's showing Freeza a monumental act of kindness that he really doesn't deserve and I can believe that Goku would think Freeza might learn something from it. The first? There is nothing he does to Freeza to realistically cause anything but an even more vicious, spiteful megalomaniac to keep terrorizing people.

Cipher · Post by **Cipher** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:31 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:It really irks me when people assume everyone on the forum is keeping up with the Super spoilers. Can't we just watch the show or read the manga without knowing what happens beforehand? That was one big reason I really enjoyed the Zamasu arc, especially episode 56.

The DBZ subreddit is quite thorough about keeping Super spoilers marked and separated, but that's something the platform makes a bit easier to do. I don't think there's really a way to enforce that on a message board. I think that particular "risk" just has to come with the territory of logging in. All news goes right onto the front page of the site as well.

I guess it's also worth noting that the types of "spoilers" we get only seem so obscure/potentially avoidable since we're outside of Japan. If you were in the domestic audience and had even a passing interest in the series or other manga/anime, you'd be much more likely to come across spoilers in the wild -- in magazines, in advertisements, etc. The stuff Toei and Shueisha release is the stuff they aren't worried about the audience knowing in advance.

Gog · Post by **Gog** » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:30 pm

You know what grinds my gears like no other thing. And this happens all the godamn time that I hate the sight of it now days. When somebody makes a saiyan O.C and for some godamn reason their working under Freeza, and for some godamn reason there the spwecial nwice swayian http://moffett1990.deviantart.com/art/N ... -474679817 like this, seriously, the main character is nearly beat by beat Goku. And this is just so irritating as these people are regularly destroying worlds, so they should be jaded and bitter like Vegeta is. But, nope, noooo. Then that would mean that they would have to get character development, and that would be too hard.

*some time later*

He fucking turned super saiyan, in the first fucking chapter. WHOOPS I FORGOT, MY SUPER SAIYAN, AINT WORTH SHIT. That was the third most laziest transformation I've ever seen. Another thing I hate about all these saiyan O.C'S they get all the main form's with absolutely no effort at all. Whoops Brocco his murderous main buddy is allowed to keep his body.

Fuck this I'm out.

The gr · Post by **The gr** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:54 am

There another thing that grinds my gears when people say Vegeta vs magetta in the anime had tension my reaction to this

it was a fun battle but the battle could have ended if Vegeta went blue

Kanassa · Post by **Kanassa** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:57 am

Gog wrote:You know what grinds my gears like no other thing. And this happens all the godamn time that I hate the sight of it now days. When somebody makes a saiyan O.C and for some godamn reason their working under Freeza, and for some godamn reason there the spwecial nwice swayian http://moffett1990.deviantart.com/art/N ... -474679817 like this, seriously, the main character is nearly beat by beat Goku. And this is just so irritating as these people are regularly destroying worlds, so they should be jaded and bitter like Vegeta is. But, nope, noooo. Then that would mean that they would have to get character development, and that would be too hard.

Maybe I'm just reading you wrong, but I don't really understand what your complaint is. That they were beat by Goku? That they're not complete bastards? That they're not Vegeta clones?

Alos, is that a demonic bunny behind them?

ekrolo2 · Post by **ekrolo2** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:24 pm

The gr wrote:There another thing that grinds my gears when people say Vegeta vs magetta in the anime had tension my reaction to this
it was a fun battle but the battle could have ended if Vegeta went blue

Or Super Saiyan 2 even for anyone who wants to say "B-But! He's gotta keep it hidden for Cabba!"

The gr · Post by **The gr** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:26 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
The gr wrote:There another thing that grinds my gears when people say Vegeta vs magetta in the anime had tension my reaction to this
it was a fun battle but the battle could have ended if Vegeta went blue
Or Super Saiyan 2 even for anyone who wants to say "B-But! He's gotta keep it hidden for Cabba!"

Oh yeah I forgot ssj2 Vegeta even that could beat Maggie but the funniest part he almost lost because he hold back like a jackass now I'm preferring the manga version of that fight sure it wasn't epic but it was funny Vegeta and maggeta facial expressions man there so hilarious and goku telling Vegeta to lift maggeta through he can't lift him classic goku and It was simple and grounded

ekrolo2 · Post by **ekrolo2** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:32 pm

So, this doesn't really grind my gears, more of a weird trend I've noticed but between the manga and anime, SS2 has been getting really wanked. You've got Quake of Fury (Rageta), Trunks' super powered SS2 and then there's Super *fuck logic* Trunks which is seemingly tied to it as well.

It's really weird too because Vegeta, in the manga, has an SS2 vastly superior to SS3 but can't transform into it while in the anime, he trains to get Blue but still can't use 3.

The gr · Post by **The gr** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:39 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:So, this doesn't really grind my gears, more of a weird trend I've noticed but between the manga and anime, SS2 has been getting really wanked. You've got Quake of Fury (Rageta), Trunks' super powered SS2 and then there's Super *fuck logic* Trunks which is seemingly tied to it as well.

It's really weird too because Vegeta, in the manga, has an SS2 vastly superior to SS3 but can't transform into it while in the anime, he trains to get Blue but still can't use 3.

yeah I noticed that that form and ssj1 is wanked to death like man toei or toyble can you at least focus on ssj3 because it only has two important battles

ekrolo2 · Post by **ekrolo2** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:40 pm

The gr wrote:yeah I noticed that that form and ssj1 is wanked to death like man toei or toyble can you at least focus on ssj3 because it only has two important battles

It's not really a form preference thing, it's just weird power wise for Vegeta and Trunks to amp SS2 to do beyond SS3 Vegetto tier levels but neither of them can use SS3 at all.

The gr · Post by **The gr** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:42 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
The gr wrote:yeah I noticed that that form and ssj1 is wanked to death like man toei or toyble can you at least focus on ssj3 because it only has two important battles
It's not really a form preference thing, it's just weird power wise for Vegeta and Trunks to amp SS2 to do beyond SS3 Vegetto tier levels but neither of them can use SS3 at all.

Well trunks and Vegeta has plot ki to amped up their ssj2

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