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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:44 pm

The gr wrote:
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The gr wrote:yeah I noticed that that form and ssj1 is wanked to death like man toei or toyble can you at least focus on ssj3 because it only has two important battles
It's not really a form preference thing, it's just weird power wise for Vegeta and Trunks to amp SS2 to do beyond SS3 Vegetto tier levels but neither of them can use SS3 at all.
Well trunks and Vegeta has plot ki to amped up their ssj2
Neither of them have it when these upgraded SS2s show up. Vegeta has an amped SS2 before God Ki is a thing and Trunks pushes his to SS3 tier without it either.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by The gr » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:46 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
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ekrolo2 wrote: It's not really a form preference thing, it's just weird power wise for Vegeta and Trunks to amp SS2 to do beyond SS3 Vegetto tier levels but neither of them can use SS3 at all.
Well trunks and Vegeta has plot ki to amped up their ssj2
Neither of them have it when these upgraded SS2s show up. Vegeta has an amped SS2 before God Ki is a thing and Trunks pushes his to SS3 tier without it either.
I'm not referring to god ki I'm referring to plot ki is the terms when a character get a cheap power up that is part of the DB dictionary
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:56 pm

The garbage powerscaling in Super, especially in the manga.

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:21 pm

The whole "Goku is an idiot" label that people have been slapping on Super with his characterisation. Without taking into consideration what actually qualifies for a display of lacking intelligence. Forgetting something important does not qualify as a display of lacking of intelligence or being stupid. I really can't stress this enough. Because if we're going by that logic, we're all fucking idiots.

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Gog » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:06 pm

Kanassa wrote:
Gog wrote:You know what grinds my gears like no other thing. And this happens all the godamn time that I hate the sight of it now days. When somebody makes a saiyan O.C and for some godamn reason their working under Freeza, and for some godamn reason there the spwecial nwice swayian http://moffett1990.deviantart.com/art/N ... -474679817 like this, seriously, the main character is nearly beat by beat Goku. And this is just so irritating as these people are regularly destroying worlds, so they should be jaded and bitter like Vegeta is. But, nope, noooo. Then that would mean that they would have to get character development, and that would be too hard.
Maybe I'm just reading you wrong, but I don't really understand what your complaint is. That they were beat by Goku? That they're not complete bastards? That they're not Vegeta clones?

Alos, is that a demonic bunny behind them?
Just read the damn comic, the main two characters are just so boring, the ma in character even looks like Goku, good for no reason, managing to get super saiyan in the first chapter people.

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Kanassa » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:40 pm

Gog wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
Gog wrote:You know what grinds my gears like no other thing. And this happens all the godamn time that I hate the sight of it now days. When somebody makes a saiyan O.C and for some godamn reason their working under Freeza, and for some godamn reason there the spwecial nwice swayian http://moffett1990.deviantart.com/art/N ... -474679817 like this, seriously, the main character is nearly beat by beat Goku. And this is just so irritating as these people are regularly destroying worlds, so they should be jaded and bitter like Vegeta is. But, nope, noooo. Then that would mean that they would have to get character development, and that would be too hard.
Maybe I'm just reading you wrong, but I don't really understand what your complaint is. That they were beat by Goku? That they're not complete bastards? That they're not Vegeta clones?

Alos, is that a demonic bunny behind them?
Just read the damn comic, the main two characters are just so boring, the ma in character even looks like Goku, good for no reason, managing to get super saiyan in the first chapter people.
It looks like a shittier version of the Saiyan Saga, ecet with blander characters. They even have their own Kami!
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Gog » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:44 pm

Kanassa wrote:
Gog wrote:
Kanassa wrote: Maybe I'm just reading you wrong, but I don't really understand what your complaint is. That they were beat by Goku? That they're not complete bastards? That they're not Vegeta clones?

Alos, is that a demonic bunny behind them?
Just read the damn comic, the main two characters are just so boring, the ma in character even looks like Goku, good for no reason, managing to get super saiyan in the first chapter people.
It looks like a shittier version of the Saiyan Saga, ecet with blander characters. They even have their own Kami!
That's a problem with most doujisns. I'd have to admit another reason why I despise the average Saiyan O.C, besides the fact that they are often bland, and good for no reason, even though they serve under Freeza, and that would mean that they would have to destroy worlds. Is that them being bland and good means that their not going to get any character development at all. There just going to stagnate.

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Kanassa » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:53 pm

Gog wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
Gog wrote:
Just read the damn comic, the main two characters are just so boring, the ma in character even looks like Goku, good for no reason, managing to get super saiyan in the first chapter people.
It looks like a shittier version of the Saiyan Saga, ecet with blander characters. They even have their own Kami!
That's a problem with most doujisns. I'd have to admit another reason why I despise the average Saiyan O.C, besides the fact that they are often bland, and good for no reason, even though they serve under Freeza, and that would mean that they would have to destroy worlds. Is that them being bland and good means that their not going to get any character development at all. There just going to stagnate.
You can still be a good guy and fight for Frieza, it just depends on their experiences under Frieza's leadership, but the story doesn't seem like it's ever going to tell us so far. Imagine if some Saiyans were fed propaganda that justified them erasing these worlds (The two characters here are half breeds, so maybe they grew up in a different environment that helped justify them thinking joining Frieza is a good idea).
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back. :D
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by MyNiggaGoku » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:55 pm

I hate the fact that some fans compeletely disregard the DBS manga and only acknowledge it as a promotional tool for the anime.Yes I get it,the anime is the main thing but the manga is not just made to promote the anime but to also be taken as a seperate product on its own,as proven by the various differences it has from the anime.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Gog » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:00 pm

Kanassa wrote:
Gog wrote:
Kanassa wrote: It looks like a shittier version of the Saiyan Saga, ecet with blander characters. They even have their own Kami!
That's a problem with most doujisns. I'd have to admit another reason why I despise the average Saiyan O.C, besides the fact that they are often bland, and good for no reason, even though they serve under Freeza, and that would mean that they would have to destroy worlds. Is that them being bland and good means that their not going to get any character development at all. There just going to stagnate.
You can still be a good guy and fight for Frieza, it just depends on their experiences under Frieza's leadership, but the story doesn't seem like it's ever going to tell us so far. Imagine if some Saiyans were fed propaganda that justified them erasing these worlds (The two characters here are half breeds, so maybe they grew up in a different environment that helped justify them thinking joining Frieza is a good idea).
I know except for the fact that these people consider Freeza to be a bad person, and nearly every fucking saiyan scum O.C thinks so as well. In fact I would like the idea of a main character thinking that Freeza was a good guy, it would be an interesting thing to happen. But it never does, and this is my problem with this shit, they never have any real reason to be a good person, in a job that requires you kill off species. Unless there a pyschopath

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Kanassa » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:02 pm

Gog wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
Gog wrote:
That's a problem with most doujisns. I'd have to admit another reason why I despise the average Saiyan O.C, besides the fact that they are often bland, and good for no reason, even though they serve under Freeza, and that would mean that they would have to destroy worlds. Is that them being bland and good means that their not going to get any character development at all. There just going to stagnate.
You can still be a good guy and fight for Frieza, it just depends on their experiences under Frieza's leadership, but the story doesn't seem like it's ever going to tell us so far. Imagine if some Saiyans were fed propaganda that justified them erasing these worlds (The two characters here are half breeds, so maybe they grew up in a different environment that helped justify them thinking joining Frieza is a good idea).
I know except for the fact that these people consider Freeza to be a bad person, and nearly every fucking saiyan scum O.C thinks so as well. In fact I would like the idea of a main character thinking that Freeza was a good guy, it would be an interesting thing to happen. But it never does, and this is my problem with this shit, they never have any real reason to be a good person, in a job that requires you kill off species. Unless there a pyschopath
Maybe it's like the Force Awakens, tehy were just janitors the whole time :E
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

Kanassa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back. :D
- FoolsGil, Out of Context, 2017

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Gog » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:07 pm

Kanassa wrote:
Gog wrote:
Kanassa wrote: You can still be a good guy and fight for Frieza, it just depends on their experiences under Frieza's leadership, but the story doesn't seem like it's ever going to tell us so far. Imagine if some Saiyans were fed propaganda that justified them erasing these worlds (The two characters here are half breeds, so maybe they grew up in a different environment that helped justify them thinking joining Frieza is a good idea).
I know except for the fact that these people consider Freeza to be a bad person, and nearly every fucking saiyan scum O.C thinks so as well. In fact I would like the idea of a main character thinking that Freeza was a good guy, it would be an interesting thing to happen. But it never does, and this is my problem with this shit, they never have any real reason to be a good person, in a job that requires you kill off species. Unless there a pyschopath
Maybe it's like the Force Awakens, tehy were just janitors the whole time :E
:evil: No they were specifically dressed up in saiyan Armour, and it is stated that the saiyans were only used to destroy the worlds. SO WHY ARE THEY LIKE THIS

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Kanassa » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:11 pm

Gog wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
Gog wrote:
I know except for the fact that these people consider Freeza to be a bad person, and nearly every fucking saiyan scum O.C thinks so as well. In fact I would like the idea of a main character thinking that Freeza was a good guy, it would be an interesting thing to happen. But it never does, and this is my problem with this shit, they never have any real reason to be a good person, in a job that requires you kill off species. Unless there a pyschopath
Maybe it's like the Force Awakens, tehy were just janitors the whole time :E
:evil: No they were specifically dressed up in saiyan Armour, and it is stated that the saiyans were only used to destroy the worlds. SO WHY ARE THEY LIKE THIS
They dress up in Saiyan Armor because it helps them clean the ship!
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

Kanassa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back. :D
- FoolsGil, Out of Context, 2017

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Gog » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:14 pm

Kanassa wrote:
Gog wrote:
Kanassa wrote: Maybe it's like the Force Awakens, tehy were just janitors the whole time :E
:evil: No they were specifically dressed up in saiyan Armour, and it is stated that the saiyans were only used to destroy the worlds. SO WHY ARE THEY LIKE THIS
They dress up in Saiyan Armor because it helps them clean the ship!
*Get's triggered* Why would they use saiyans? Saiyans were only used to to destroy worlds, that was there only use. there is literally no reason for them to be good. Unless there psychopaths...

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by kinisking » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:21 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
The gr wrote:There another thing that grinds my gears when people say Vegeta vs magetta in the anime had tension my reaction to this Image
    it was a fun battle but the battle could have ended if Vegeta went blue
    Or Super Saiyan 2 even for anyone who wants to say "B-But! He's gotta keep it hidden for Cabba!"
    We do the know the upper limits of Magettas power. He tanked the final flash. The reason why he lost is because he got insulted.
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    Re: Things that grind your gears

    Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:42 pm

    MyNiggaGoku wrote:...the manga is not just made to promote the anime
    Sorry, but you're wrong. Sure, Toyotaro has a little bit of fun with it, but this manga is in V-Jump, of course it's only promotional.
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    Re: Things that grind your gears

    Post by Gog » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:14 am

    Arcosian's with boobs, this makes me angry beyond reason, for some reason. As they are a reptilian species, and the idea that they would possess a mammalian feature? Especially boobs is completely ridiculous, stupid, and only exists as horny people can draw, like big tiddies on anything remotely humanoid. Also bonus anger points if they replace the gem on the fore head with actual hair.

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    Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:15 am

    Gog wrote:...and only exists as horny people can draw, like big tiddies on anything remotely humanoid.
    That's the point, I think you're taking them a little too seriously.
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    Re: Things that grind your gears

    Post by Gog » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:19 am

    Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
    Gog wrote:...and only exists as horny people can draw, like big tiddies on anything remotely humanoid.
    That's the point, I think you're taking them a little too seriously.
    But that's the thing I actually think that they are serious about it...

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    Re: Things that grind your gears

    Post by MyNiggaGoku » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:21 am

    Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
    MyNiggaGoku wrote:...the manga is not just made to promote the anime
    Sorry, but you're wrong. Sure, Toyotaro has a little bit of fun with it, but this manga is in V-Jump, of course it's only promotional.
    I understand your point but honestly I can't agree with you.Yes it is in V-Jump in order to act as a promotional tool but it's not ONLY that.The manga is free to make some changes from the anime.That means the manga is not a carbon copy of the anime or vice versa.Also Viz already translated a big chunk of the chapters...that means that the manga is recognized as a worthwhile product on its own without it being solely dependant on the anime.The translations begun way before Super'a dub first aired.All in all I perfectly accept that it's main cause of existence is to be a promotional tool for the anime but it still can hold its own with or without the anime because it still is a separate product.You're free to disagree with me but please take my points into consideration.
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