Unpopular DB opinions

[Gog]

He's in the same successor role as Gohan was, and he has extraordinary potential for battle, but we haven't seen enough of him to draw a parallel between their actual personalities.

But that's the problem what we have seen is estinally Gohan, that's the problem with introducing a character near the end of the comic. You cannot flesh them out, so we draw parallels to the next closest character. Gohan

But you're drawing the parallel fallaciously. Oob is Oob, we don't know much about him, which is a shame. That's all we can say about him, he's not similar enough to another character to actively synonymize the two.

Yeah it is unfair. It's just we don't get enough of him, to really see his personality. It also doesn't help, because he's so Gohan

[Lunaar]

But that's the problem what we have seen is estinally Gohan, that's the problem with introducing a character near the end of the comic. You cannot flesh them out, so we draw parallels to the next closest character. Gohan

But you're drawing the parallel fallaciously. Oob is Oob, we don't know much about him, which is a shame. That's all we can say about him, he's not similar enough to another character to actively synonymize the two.

Yeah it is unfair. It's just we don't get enough of him, to really see his personality. It also doesn't help, because he's so Gohan

Saying that someone is so "somebody else" isn't really a valid counterpoint. If you're referring to the way he seems meekish and shows respect to his opponent, then unleashes immense ki when he snaps - then yeah, that's pretty a Gohan thing to do. Cyborg MULE (sorry not sorry ) is right when he says we don't know much about him - and it is a shame! We don't know what his family is like, how he was raised, if he's more of a tactical fighter or just goes wild on his foes - he's a blank slate with some dialogue in two episodes.

While he's intentionally made this way, to let the reader/viewer self-insert their own idea of who a successor to Goku should truly be - it does so controversially. It's why the fandom is so divided on the ending. Leaving everything open to new beginnings and "the adventure continues!" is a refreshing and creative way to not necessarily bring finality to the story, but to emphasize that this world will keep on going without Goku and friends from here on out. It's a big picture ending - and Oob represents that.

...it is not my personal choice in how you finish off a story quite like Dragon Ball's, but it's not by any means a "bad" or "lazy" one. It sounds strange in hindsight, but I never drew comparison from Oob to Gohan until you mentioned it. Oob is too unique in his lack of uniqueness.

[Gog]

But you're drawing the parallel fallaciously. Oob is Oob, we don't know much about him, which is a shame. That's all we can say about him, he's not similar enough to another character to actively synonymize the two.

Yeah it is unfair. It's just we don't get enough of him, to really see his personality. It also doesn't help, because he's so Gohan

Saying that someone is so "somebody else" isn't really a valid counterpoint. If you're referring to the way he seems meekish and shows respect to his opponent, then unleashes immense ki when he snaps - then yeah, that's pretty a Gohan thing to do. Cyborg MULE (sorry not sorry ) is right when he says we don't know much about him - and it is a shame! We don't know what his family is like, how he was raised, if he's more of a tactical fighter or just goes wild on his foes - he's a blank slate with some dialogue in two episodes.

While he's intentionally made this way, to let the reader/viewer self-insert their own idea of who a successor to Goku should truly be - it does so controversially. It's why the fandom is so divided on the ending. Leaving everything open to new beginnings and "the adventure continues!" is a refreshing and creative way to not necessarily bring finality to the story, but to emphasize that this world will keep on going without Goku and friends from here on out. It's a big picture ending - and Oob represents that.

...it is not my personal choice in how you finish off a story quite like Dragon Ball's, but it's not by any means a "bad" or "lazy" one. It sounds strange in hindsight, but I never drew comparison from Oob to Gohan until you mentioned it. Oob is too unique in his lack of uniqueness.

When you put it like that, then you do have a point with how Uub is written. But still I wish he wasn't such a blank slate

[Lunaar]

When you put it like that, then you do have a point with how Uub is written. But still I wish he wasn't such a blank slate

Oh yeah, absolutely! If I had my way, a post-EoZ show would star all of the youngins off on a new adventure. Oob's ties to Boo alone would be so much fun to explore.

Unpopular opinion of the day: Make Xenoverse canon already. I know I'm trash for thinking it, but those games make everything feel a lot more cohesive if you give the franchise the excuse of "God of Time and a big ol bird just trying to clean up Trunks' time travel mess."

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Unpopular opinion of the day: Make Xenoverse canon already. I know I'm trash for thinking it, but those games make everything feel a lot more cohesive if you give the franchise the excuse of "God of Time and a big ol bird just trying to clean up Trunks' time travel mess."

Canonization, as most people think of it, is pretty much subjective anyway. Xenoverse exists, and fits pretty well into events of the main story (aside from a hiccup or two), it can be as canon as you want it to be.

[The gr]

I like goku black in the manga

I do too. I prefer how Toyo handled him over his anime counterpart in both characteristics and appearance. Which brings me to my own unpopular opinion, I never cared for Black's flamboyant mannerisms as much as other people did.

Well you see I prefer his anime counterparts
but I also love his manga counterpart

I like goku black in the manga

That's not so bad...

I don't get it

[Lunaar]

Unpopular opinion of the day: Make Xenoverse canon already. I know I'm trash for thinking it, but those games make everything feel a lot more cohesive if you give the franchise the excuse of "God of Time and a big ol bird just trying to clean up Trunks' time travel mess."

Canonization, as most people think of it, is pretty much subjective anyway. Xenoverse exists, and fits pretty well into events of the main story (aside from a hiccup or two), it can be as canon as you want it to be.

100% correct. I should have been more specific. I would want an acknowledgement that wherever Future Trunks ended up, he dons a funky coat and becomes a Time Patroller. Seems like something Mai would be interested in doing as well. Just a minor hint or reference, I don't mean literally turning the games into an episodic show.

[Noah]

I don't get it

It's not as bad as would made people in this forum want to murder you lol

[The gr]

I don't get it

It's not as bad as would made people in this forum want to murder you lol

I was joking about the killing thing

[dbs fanboy]

While i mostly disliked those videos using filters to make super "look more like Z".
I like a bit the soft filters used in the preview of the new arc (japanese version)

I mean, i don't like this
or
this
But i quite liked this

and this

Of course, super could look much better, and i hope this won't be the final product, i hope that Toei keeps making changes like this one until reaching the level where the colours are good. But as a first step, i'm fine with it. However, these are only two pics from a few seconds of video, idk how i might feel after seeing this in a full episode, or anything like that, so maybe my opinion may change idk, my brain is weird

[ekrolo2]

I like the idea of something being powerful enough to break the wish of the Dragon Ball's. What are they but really powerful wish-granting magic at the end of the day? And we know strong will or just raw power can break magic like Vegeta did to Babbidi or Vegetto keeping his sense of self when turned into candy.

[Doctor.]

I like the idea of something being powerful enough to break the wish of the Dragon Ball's. What are they but really powerful wish-granting magic at the end of the day? And we know strong will or just raw power can break magic like Vegeta did to Babbidi or Vegetto keeping his sense of self when turned into candy.

I like it too, but I think the idea that the Super Dragon Balls can grant "any wish" ruined that a bit, especially after how Zamasu proved how easy it is to gather them.

I would have actually liked the SDBs to function in a "be careful what you wish for" sort of way, but I guess that would be too reminiscent of GT.

[Ki Breaker]

Rosé looks ridiculous on black, super Saiyan looks much better..
There is nothing interesting about black or his attacks, the only factor which made him work was he looked like goku, take that away and you have a shitty written villan

[Doctor.]

take that away and you have a shitty written villan

Why? He's serviceable.

This is Dragon Ball, anyway.

[Ki Breaker]

take that away and you have a shitty written villan

Why? He's serviceable.

This is Dragon Ball, anyway.

Freeza, buu even piccolo all were fantastic Villans even if simply written..

[Doctor.]

take that away and you have a shitty written villan

Why? He's serviceable.

This is Dragon Ball, anyway.

Freeza, buu even piccolo all were fantastic Villans even if simply written..

That's not how it works. If you consider them to be simple, then they weren't good, they were serviceable. You're free to think they're entertaining and you're free to like them, but you're not using that criterion to compare them to Black, you compared them on their literary merits.

[Ki Breaker]

Why? He's serviceable.

This is Dragon Ball, anyway.

Freeza, buu even piccolo all were fantastic Villans even if simply written..

That's not how it works. If you consider them to be simple, then they weren't good, they were serviceable. You're free to think they're entertaining and you're free to like them, but you're not using that criteria to compare them to Black.

Simple in this instance means not given a whole lot of back story nor their self narration of plans..
All we knew was freeza was strongest, and buu was a being who needed to be stopped..
They were very nicely developed and written in present to connect with the viewer..
Black in the other hand, has a back story, narrating his plans all the time and still the only thing he had going for him was he looked like goku..

Black was simply a shit villan for me, no connection could be formed, hence me saying he was written badly

[Doctor.]

All we knew was freeza was strongest, and buu was a being who needed to be stopped..

Right, they were serviceable, not good.

[Ki Breaker]

All we knew was freeza was strongest, and buu was a being who needed to be stopped..

Right, they were serviceable, not good.

Haha, way to miss my point..
Well, that's your definition of serviceable..
If a character is entertaining, they aren't just serviceable anymore to me

[Doctor.]

If a character is entertaining, they aren't just serviceable anymore to me

But entertainment has little to do with a character being well-written or not. That's the distinction I'm making, I'm not challenging you on whether or not you like Black.