Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76

Post by dbs fanboy » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:27 pm

Ajay wrote:
But yeah, the colour design in GT is not great. Very edgy 90's nonsense.
But what's worse? too edgy/dark or too colorful/bright? :P
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76

Post by ArchedThunder » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:31 pm

pacz360 wrote:So I heard something about a new director? Mind filling me the details.
Back on episode 68 we had another series director listed alongside the one we've had for awhile and both are still credited as of 76. I personally think the new SD was brought in to lead the filler while the other focused on the new arc, we'll probably find out by the credits for 77.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76

Post by Nejishiki » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:38 pm

pacz360 wrote:So I heard something about a new director? Mind filling me the details.
"Kōhei Hatano Appointed New “Dragon Ball Super” Series Director"

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76

Post by dbs fanboy » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:53 pm

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pacz360 wrote:So I heard something about a new director? Mind filling me the details.
"Kōhei Hatano Appointed New “Dragon Ball Super” Series Director"
So is Morio going to leave or he'll stay working as a co director or something like that? (i fear for the worst)
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76

Post by pacz360 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:56 pm

Nejishiki wrote:
pacz360 wrote:So I heard something about a new director? Mind filling me the details.
"Kōhei Hatano Appointed New “Dragon Ball Super” Series Director"
So is this guy good or what?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76

Post by Nejishiki » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:00 pm

dbs fanboy wrote:So is Morio going to leave or he'll stay working as a co director or something like that? (i fear for the worst)
I'm not entirely certain, sorry.
pacz360 wrote:So is this guy good or what?
He's an experienced, well-versed, veteran director, if that's what you're asking. He directed some of Dragon Ball Super's episodes already.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76

Post by ArchedThunder » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:04 pm

dbs fanboy wrote: So is Morio going to leave or he'll stay working as a co director or something like that? (i fear for the worst)
We'll probably find out with the credits of episode 77, but considering Hatano Kohei storyboarded 3 episodes in the last 10 weeks when previous series directors couldn't manage anywhere near that I think it was a temporary measure (to allow Morio to focus on the coming arc and allow production to improve), which isn't unheard of in anime production.
pacz360 wrote: So is this guy good or what?
He's done some good episodes and some not so good.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76

Post by dhaval_dongre » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:53 pm

Shreyas_Singh wrote:I get the feeling that Ajay actually really hates Dragon Ball Super but only forces himself to make these videos because likes Dragon Ball and is passionate about discussing animation,not that there's anything wrong with that. We haven't had a single arc yet with good story, a satisfying conclusion and we've had only a few instances of great animation.
That is totally subjective. It depends on how you see things post Z. I completed Z when the RoF movie dub was premiering in the US. Even with RoF's faults it was an appreciated and hugely successful film. The BoG movie was absolutely amazing. I just loved it. I watch other anime, read other manga, light novels and have even played a few visual novels. But tbh things in the DB fandom get overblown once in a while. I don't even blame the fans sometimes . Its human nature at the end of the day. The U6 arc was okay, would have been much better if the production was normal. The FT arc for me despite its faults was still good. The Trunks genki dama was a bit jarring and it stills annoys me, but everyone dying in the end was fine by me. The 2 movie readaptations were just a ploy to keep the time slot alive and to keep the merchandise sales up. They did actually succeed and DB merchandise sale was higher than One Piece and second only to Gundam. Such things keep happening in the anime industry. They even make official stupid anime to film adaptations, which in most cases is just the anime episodes compiled together. So anyway the 2 films, with the U6 arc and FT arc is still okay. Nothing bad. But as DB fans we expect better and there's nothing wrong in that. I hope that's the case from now on.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76

Post by Psykomatik » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:03 pm

Wow, so this is the thread of the Super Animation Catalogue? Found out if Ajay loves or hates Dragon Ball Super?
This is ridiculous... And you just have to follow him on twitter to know that he is appreciating the show. He even gaves the Future Trunks Arc a 7.5 out of 10, so that's really not bad.

Now, can we focus on the real topic of this thread, or are we gonna talk more about Ajay's personnal taste? Like "I get the feeling that Ajay really like apples [...]"...

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76

Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:17 pm

The stupid color change in the NEP made me more anxious to see how the episode and the next one will look like, than the art, animation or the plot itself.
For God sake I hope they know what they are doing.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76

Post by Psykomatik » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:20 pm

Ah, here we go. To me, the color change benefits Yoshitaka Yashima, and hides a little its style. Maybe it will benefit others (Yukihiro Kitano comes to mind)?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76

Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:28 pm

It kinda reminds the new style Gintama anime has had in the last 2 seasons. It's not bad, but I will gladly take the older one.
The new style in the NEP looks like a failed attempt to follow that road though.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76

Post by HybridSaiyan » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:30 pm

Noah wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:Anyways, I'm trying to figure this one out, Yokoyama maybe?
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Strange how Goku looks skinny in this, probably because of his clothes :think:
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76

Post by Doctor. » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:31 pm

Goku actually has a very Bruce Lee-esque build now.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76

Post by neolux » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:28 pm

It surprises me how you are still pointing out how "x" character looks skinny. I mean come on, it is obvious that nowadays we won't get back to super buffed character designs (unless certain animator decides to do it if he or she wants but I doubt it since they try to follow the model sheets in their own way) If I'm not wrong in the 90's most male anime characters were mostly buffed because that was a cool thing; however, nowadays the cool thing it's that the male characters have "normal" bodies.

A perfect example is how Araki Sensei (the author of Jojo's Bizarre Adventures) evolved his style. I mean in part I and II the character designs were super buffed and since part III the designs changed drastically the complexion of their bodies and they looked skinny in comparison. (Like Jotaro for example) And I point this out because I barely see JoJo fans complaining about skinny characters and how the designs changed a lot. So I don't see why we can't move on in that regard an accept that characters won't really look buffed. I mean yeah, character designs are not the best in super, but them being skinny is most a matter of how the styles of animators have evolved. I mean even Toriyama draws skinny characters now.

So yeah, my point is that it might be the time that we accept that we won't get buffed characters designs anymore.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76

Post by Bansho64 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:28 pm

neolux wrote:If I'm not wrong in the 90's most male anime characters were mostly buffed because that was a cool thing; however, nowadays the cool thing it's that the male characters have "normal" bodies.
There were plenty of normal weight characters in that era. This apparent trend of skinny characters being the "cool thing" sounds a bit weird to me. Especially when you got huge fanbases for modern anime characters like Alex Louis Armstrong and Whitebeard or whatnot.
neolux wrote: So I don't see why we can't move on in that regard an accept that characters won't really look buffed. I mean yeah, character designs are not the best in super, but them being skinny is most a matter of how the styles of animators have evolved. I mean even Toriyama draws skinny characters now.
I'm not sure what you're asking when you say people need to apparently "move on". I mean, people aren't just going to all of a sudden cast their preferences out. It's just not gonna happen.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76

Post by kinisking » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:02 pm

I actually don't think there's a major difference between Boo saga Goku in the manga and DBS Goku when it comes to muscle mass.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:04 pm

kinisking wrote:I actually don't think there's a major difference between Boo saga Goku in the manga and DBS Goku when it comes to muscle mass.
Not a huge one, the super-buff model was pretty much dropped after Future Trunks failed so miserably at it.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76

Post by Bansho64 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:07 pm

kinisking wrote:I actually don't think there's a major difference between Boo saga Goku in the manga and DBS Goku when it comes to muscle mass.
Pretty much. Toriyama's designs have been coming down this line since back in the late 90s.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76

Post by kinisking » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:08 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
kinisking wrote:I actually don't think there's a major difference between Boo saga Goku in the manga and DBS Goku when it comes to muscle mass.
Not a huge one, the super-buff model was pretty much dropped after Future Trunks failed so miserably at it.
Yeah, I actually was surprised when re reading the boo arc segment of the manga not too long ago. Sometimes DBS has really skinny shots , but a lot of the time it's around that level. There's even been some shots that have them buffer than the average in that arc.
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