What is the "Hokage" position of DB?

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What is the "Hokage" position of DB?

Post by mecha3000 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:53 pm

You know what I mean: the position most modern day shonen characters aspire to reach. Basically, their motivation. For a character like Naruto, it's to be Hokage. For Luffy, it's Pirate King. For a newer character like Izuku Midoriya from My Hero Academia - it's to be the strongest superhero. And before anyone answers with: IN DRAGON BALL, THERE IS NO HOKAGE POSITION - BUT ONLY THE DESIRE TO BE STRONGER THAN YOURSELF AND NEVER LETS LIMITS LIMIT YOU (which is basically what Vegeta said to Goku at the end of Z) - Honestly, that's not the answer I'm looking for.

Many fans have speculated that Whis is training Goku and Vegeta in the hopes that one of them can become the God of Destruction and it's even been mentioned (by Beerus) that God of Destruction is a title anyone can attain. To be honest, I think it's ridiculous to think that Goku or Vegeta would ever be interested in becoming Gods of Destruction - especially since Goku has already turned down the "God of Earth" title. But this leads me to my main topic: Which of the five following titles would be considered as DB's version of a title that Goku would want to aspire for if he was the typical shonen main character OR one that fits DB best overall.

1. Koku-ō (King)
2. Kami (God)
3. Kaio-sama (King Kai)
4. Kaioshin (Supreme Kai)
5. Hakaishin (Destruction God)

And once again, I'm not debating that Goku would even be interested in these titles because he wouldn't. Goku is not a Naruto character. But still, what if he was? Which of these positions would a "One day, I'm going to be the" Goku type of character aspire to become that best fits his current character and DB overall? An interesting suggestion a comment I came across presented is that Goku should become a Supreme Kai (Kaioshin) while Vegeta becomes a Destruction God (Hakaishin) by the end of Super. I doubt this would happen because DB is not like other series in this regard, but it's still interesting. But yeah, thoughts? Any other titles in DB I didn't even mention?
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Re: What is the "Hokage" position of DB?

Post by Gog » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:55 pm

The strongest fighter. That's it

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Post by mecha3000 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:57 pm

Gog wrote:The strongest fighter. That's it
Yeah, this is the obvious choice. But still, if you couldn't go with this one - What official DB title (such as Kaioshin or Hakaishin) would you go with?

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Post by Gog » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:59 pm

mecha3000 wrote:
Gog wrote:The strongest fighter. That's it
Yeah, this is the obvious choice. But still, if you couldn't go with this one - What official DB title (such as Kaioshin or Hakaishin) would you go with?
The Omni king.

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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:36 pm

Gog wrote:
mecha3000 wrote:
Gog wrote:The strongest fighter. That's it
Yeah, this is the obvious choice. But still, if you couldn't go with this one - What official DB title (such as Kaioshin or Hakaishin) would you go with?
The Omni king.
There's 5 Kages, though. There's only 1 (Well, at least that's how it's supposed to be) Zeno.

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Post by Captain Strawberry » Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:42 pm

I suppose Strongest under the heavens, so being a champion in the Budokai tenkaichi tournament in other words
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Re: What is the "Hokage" position of DB?

Post by Gog » Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:45 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Gog wrote:
mecha3000 wrote:
Yeah, this is the obvious choice. But still, if you couldn't go with this one - What official DB title (such as Kaioshin or Hakaishin) would you go with?
The Omni king.
There's 5 Kages, though. There's only 1 (Well, at least that's how it's supposed to be) Zeno.
If there's five timelines, then that means that there is five Zeno's

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Re: What is the "Hokage" position of DB?

Post by mecha3000 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:51 pm

Captain Strawberry wrote:I suppose Strongest under the heavens, so being a champion in the Budokai tenkaichi tournament in other words
This makes sense to me considering how happy Goku was at the end of Dragon Ball when he discovered he won the tournament. Also, Dragon Ball was building Goku to become the strongest fighter on Earth (strongest under the heavens) so I guess this still makes sense as an official title similar to Hokage. It even fits Goku's goals and personality best because it doesn't come with any responsibility that requires him to fulfill a certain role.

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Re: What is the "Hokage" position of DB?

Post by floofychan333 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:07 pm

The only real position I could see Goku having or aspiring to be is the Kami-sama and he already turned that down.
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Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:59 am

I do not think Omni King is equal to Hokage, I think the title of God is the most fitting equavalent and Goku has long since rejected and supassed it. Remember:The Kage (Because that's the title. Ho, Kaze and so on are the elements and village designation) arent Lords of the Universe and much less the world.

Hell,maybe King Of The World would be most accurate to your question, my dear mecha.

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Re: What is the "Hokage" position of DB?

Post by sintzu » Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:05 am

In DB Goku's main goal was winning the Tenkaichi torunament but when he finally did that, all that was left for him was just to keep getting stronger.

I think the reason Toriyama didn't give Goku a goal like that again is so he wouldn't limit where the story could go cause after winning the tournament he had to completely change everything to keep the story going.
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Post by Soppa Saia People » Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:08 am

What in the actual fuck is a, "Hokage" ?
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Post by Gog » Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:10 am

Soppa Saia People wrote:What in the actual fuck is a, "Hokage" ?
It's Naruto for top shit Ninja

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Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:11 am

sintzu wrote:In DB Goku's main goal was winning the Tenkaichi torunament but when he finally did that, all that was left for him was just to keep getting stronger.

I think the reason Toriyama didn't give Goku a goal like that again is so he wouldn't limit where the story could go cause after winning the tournament he had to completely change everything to keep the story going.
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Post by Gog » Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:21 am

Cure Dragon 255 wrote:
sintzu wrote:In DB Goku's main goal was winning the Tenkaichi torunament but when he finally did that, all that was left for him was just to keep getting stronger.

I think the reason Toriyama didn't give Goku a goal like that again is so he wouldn't limit where the story could go cause after winning the tournament he had to completely change everything to keep the story going.
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Re: What is the "Hokage" position of DB?

Post by MozillaVulpix » Sun Feb 05, 2017 4:10 am

I don't think there would ever be one in the context of this series. Goku doesn't want to become the strongest out of a desire for respect (like Naruto. Haven't watched enough One Piece to tell you Luffy's motivations). He wants to become stronger from a pure, intrinsic motivation for self-improvement. In this series, there's no definitive time you can say he's the strongest he can possibly be. Because There's Always Someone Stronger.
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Re: What is the "Hokage" position of DB?

Post by swimtrunks » Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:05 am

I was gonna say grand supreme kai but now i don't know.

Maybe Guardian of planet Earth or whatver it was Dende became.

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Re: What is the "Hokage" position of DB?

Post by Majin Buu » Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:05 pm

It depends on how you view the term. If you're referring to Hokage as a position (as in a job with duties and responsibilities), God of Earth would probably be the closest equivalent since it's implied that there's multiple planets with their own God much like there are multiple ninja villages with their own Kage. Also, the God of Earth has deities that are above him just like the Kage have superiors above them. If you mean Hokage as a general title denoting the strongest ninja, then it's probably the winner of the Tenkaichi Budokai or the strongest in the universe period (since that's what so many of the villains like to refer to themselves as).

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Re: What is the "Hokage" position of DB?

Post by DragonBallFoodie » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:52 pm

There's only two ninja in DB as far as I recall: Shu and that Murasaki dude.

Ninjas are kind of an underrated warrior in DB. Fighters are more the "in your face, out in the open" type.
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