"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[sintzu]

Was it confirmed that the Clown and Masked Hood character were from Universe 9?

The opening shows Goju vs Deadpool alien from U9.

I don't think anyone said where these 3 are from yet.

[Khin]

Yeah, aside from obvious ones that don’t need confirmation like the elephant and giant robot being the God of Destruction of Universe 10 and Universe 4 respectively, so far, nothing is ever said or confirmed about which universe the new Gods of Destruction are from. I think the clown is from Universe 5, but right now, there’s no concrete evidence to support this.

[Noah]

Goku is not superman, he dose not have a any natural invulnerability. If he does not focus his ki into protecting his body then he can get scratched or laser beamed through the heart.

This was never stated in any media as far I remember.

Every time something happens that doesn't make sense when considered with past feats and power level, I gain an extra day to my life span. It feels good.

Good for you man

[DainIronfoot]

I love the new opening, it just makes you excited! Some people guessed that the Wolf and teletubby were from Universe 9 but in the op we see them in a shot with Magetta and Hit. Maybe they're on the Uni 6 team...? Which is strange because the pink teletubby looks kind of tough and i would of assumed if he/she was from Uni6, they would of been present at the Champa tourney.

[Booze Sama]

I love the new opening, it just makes you excited! Some people guessed that the Wolf and teletubby were from Universe 9 but in the op we see them in a shot with Magetta and Hit. Maybe they're on the Uni 6 team...? Which is strange because the pink teletubby looks kind of tough.

Yeah, I thought they were U9, but it looks like the Deadpool-type dude Goku is fighting, is from U9. They seem to be a corpse as well, seeing as how two of them are wearing the same uniform.

[Lujin_16]

He looks more like him >>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLgw0jeu_-c

[Esfír Dedragón]

Guys, I need to be honest here. This is probably the first time in more than a decade that I've felt so much joy in being a Dragon Ball fan.

Battle of Gods and everything after it has really been a mixed bag for me, more so negative than positive.

It's been difficult for me to deal with both Toei's and Toriyama's decisions as to how the story has come to be, including how they portray some of the characters.

However, after seeing the new opening and learning about the upcoming arc, I felt a spark ignite within me. A spark that I thought wound never light up again, except through some sort of cheap but abundant nostalgia fuel. Instead, with so many new characters in this new tournament, I've realized that this is the first arc in Dragon Ball Super that I have no major complaints. I finally care so much about what's going to happen to everyone involved!!!

Maybe it'll end badly, maybe it'll end in a decent manner, who knows? But at the very least, I truly can say that I have great anticipation for this part of Dragon Ball Super and I hope Toei and Toriyama use whatever ideas to the fullest with great execution.

[DainIronfoot]

Quick note, I just also wanted to say that I think my favorite shot of the opening has to be where Krillin is shown grabbing a Dragonball followed by the other fighters. Krillin looks more like he did in DBZ in that shot than he does in Super and everyone else looks great too. Lovely shot!

My favorite line has to be "Even Zeno Sama will be blown away!" XD

[Esfír Dedragón]

Quick note, I just also wanted to say that I think my favorite shot of the opening has to be where Krillin is shown grabbing a Dragonball followed by the other fighters. Krillin looks more like he did in DBZ in that shot than he does in Super and everyone else looks great too. Lovely shot!

My favorite line has to be "Even Zeno Sama will be blown away!" XD

Yeah, that last line is pretty cool.

I don't really have a favorite line, per say, but I love the part of the lyrics when we get to see all Gods of Destruction, the fighters, and the part where Goku and Vegeta are fighting their opponents.

[lord godly da don]

Did anyone else notice that the grey alien Goku is fighting throughout the OP the beerus looking guy and the botamo with a mustache guy are wearing the same clothes

[Lujin_16]

They changed the clown hair in red right??? and the hoodie guy was skinny before and now bigger

[SansrivaaL]

If AT goes Goku development route then I can see this as a perfect opportunity for it being the last arc, Goku cutting ties with the Gods because he now knows nothing good can come with keeping incontact with them, especially with the treatment and claim that Beerus said to him, makes him realize the danger he also brings along with his naivety and we're done, we get Grandpa Goku who loves his grand daughter and goes on a journey to train Oob for their inevitable 1v1 match along with the reason that he will be the one to defend the earth when his time comes.

[Ki Breaker]

If AT goes Goku development route then I can see this as a perfect opportunity for it being the last arc, Goku cutting ties with the Gods because he now knows nothing good can come with keeping incontact with them, especially with the treatment and claim that Beerus said to him, makes him realize the danger he also brings along with his naivety and we're done, we get Grandpa Goku who loves his grand daughter and goes on a journey to train Oob for their inevitable 1v1 match along with the reason that he will be the one to defend the earth when his time comes.

So in the end goku just gives up because it's too dangerous?
This won't be a satisfying way to end super for me, this is possibly the worst possible way actually

[SansrivaaL]

If AT goes Goku development route then I can see this as a perfect opportunity for it being the last arc, Goku cutting ties with the Gods because he now knows nothing good can come with keeping incontact with them, especially with the treatment and claim that Beerus said to him, makes him realize the danger he also brings along with his naivety and we're done, we get Grandpa Goku who loves his grand daughter and goes on a journey to train Oob for their inevitable 1v1 match along with the reason that he will be the one to defend the earth when his time comes.

So in the end goku just gives up because it's too dangerous?
This won't be a satisfying way to end super for me, this is possibly the worst possible way actually

Yes, a bit melo dramatic right?

[Cipher]

If AT goes Goku development route then I can see this as a perfect opportunity for it being the last arc, Goku cutting ties with the Gods because he now knows nothing good can come with keeping incontact with them, especially with the treatment and claim that Beerus said to him, makes him realize the danger he also brings along with his naivety and we're done, we get Grandpa Goku who loves his grand daughter and goes on a journey to train Oob for their inevitable 1v1 match along with the reason that he will be the one to defend the earth when his time comes.

Backing this up hard. Though the prediction I arrived at in another thread is that it will actually be Beerus severing ties with Goku and co., rather than the other way around.

Adds some poignancy to the manga's ending and caps off everything Super's been building up to in exactly the same ways though.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Where do you get that information?What's the line that implies that ?

I believed it was in the manga when they were talking about how powerful Trunks was when he killed Freeza. The anime made both Freeza and Trunks stronger, while Trunks wasn't that much stronger than Super Saiyan Goku on Namek. Then in the Trunks Special manga chapter, Future Bulma said that Trunks was only as powerful as Gohan before he died.

Eh, I'm skeptical. Bulma wouldn't really know how strong Trunks or Gohan is and she say's they're about the same power instead of outright saying they are the same power level. I think that gives Future Gohan enough lee way to be anywhere from ssj Goku when he comes back to earth to ssj Vegeta against the androids. I think that's respectable considering he didn't have proper training methods or someone to properly train with.

In the manga 17 reveals that he's only been using 50% of his power against Gohan, and once he uses his full power Gohan gets completely wasted so I don't think being only a little over half of the future androids who are a good deal weaker than the present androids is all that respectable.

[emperior]

My theory for that new form is that the opening already showed us what it is: Goku in his base form with no physical changes, except it's stronger than SSB for whatever reason and comes off with red ki. I base this on the fact Toriyama likes to make everything as simple as possible, and this would also explain why Goku and Vegeta are both back to their classic outfits.
It could be a totally new form with visual changes though. That scene from the opening gave me a particularly 90s feeling, I don't know why. To be honest all episode 77 from the start to finish gives me 90s vibes, it could be because of the filters, the incredible new opening... This feels just so good, this arc is looking very promising.

[Cipher]

So, like, at this point I'm just kind of tickled that in typical Toriyama fashion, the series teased for the longest time that the thing to keep our eye on would be how being caught in the whims of these capricious, powerful gods could cause problems for Goku and co. How would they get out of it? How would they overcome it? That was very much what the story was holding in front of us through at least the end of the Champa arc, if not longer.

But no -- that was completely wrong. What we should have been looking at was how being caught up in the whims of Goku and co. would come to create problems for all these powerful, capricious gods. Rather than Goku being caught up in their plans, they wind up being caught up in his. That switch happened so seamlessly.

This is easily the most positively I've felt toward Super at any point in its run.

[SansrivaaL]

So, like, at this point I'm just kind of tickled that in typical Toriyama fashion, the series teased for the longest time that the thing to keep our eye on would be how being caught in the whims of these capricious, powerful gods could cause problems for Goku and co. How would they get out of it? How would they overcome it? That was very much what the story was holding in front of us through at least the end of the Champa arc, if not longer.

But no -- that was completely wrong. What we should have been looking at was how being caught up in the whims of Goku and co. would come to create problems for all these powerful, capricious gods. Rather than Goku being caught up in their plans, they wind up being caught up in his. That switch happened so seamlessly.

This is easily the most positively I've felt toward Super at any point in its run.

I was expecting it to have that comedy vibe, Beerus threatens Goku in a not so serious tone with Goku saying "I was just kiddin" but instead the atmosphere just turned a 180, Goku was playin Beerus, teasing/provoking him on which button should he push with that fcking sinister BGM and with how Goku said it, legit felt like he was the villain, notice how he made a more serious expression, took a turn for the worst while Beerus was threatening him.

Tho the part that I'm more pissed off is Goku... pulling a fast one, not just Beerus and Whis, but to me, I fell for that fake throw, even looked up as well 2x.

[HeroR]

So, like, at this point I'm just kind of tickled that in typical Toriyama fashion, the series teased for the longest time that the thing to keep our eye on would be how being caught in the whims of these capricious, powerful gods could cause problems for Goku and co. How would they get out of it? How would they overcome it? That was very much what the story was holding in front of us through at least the end of the Champa arc, if not longer.

But no -- that was completely wrong. What we should have been looking at was how being caught up in the whims of Goku and co. would come to create problems for all these powerful, capricious gods. Rather than Goku being caught up in their plans, they wind up being caught up in his. That switch happened so seamlessly.

This is easily the most positively I've felt toward Super at any point in its run.

Goku is caught up in their whims since he just wanted a tournament. No universes being nuke. Just like in the Champa Saga how he wanted to have fun fights, yet Champa called all the fighters pawns.

Goku has a complicated relationship with the gods. Namely, he likes the challenge they give him, but he doesn't like how the gods treats mortals like they're toys.