Beerus is gonna really hate Goku's guts in the near future

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Beerus is gonna really hate Goku's guts in the near future

Post by Saturnine » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:12 pm

Goku's the reason only one universe will get to keep existing. Which means even if Universe 7 wins, it's inevitable for Champa to die. Beerus knows this full well, and he isn't going to take it well.

I predict a subplot of a frantic assembly of all the Super Dragon Balls while the tournament is taking place, and putting them in Universe 7. That's the only way the damage can be reverted. It's a pretty exciting option when you think about it, complete with that whole "race against time" trope too. I also wonder if people from universes other than 7 would try jobbing if they were in on the plan, as it would be the remaining universes' only chance at rebirth.

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Post by supersaiyangodgogeta » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:46 pm

Not seeing why Champa would die. The tournament isn't going to held in any of the Universes and all of the gods and the fighters will be in the same place. Assuming that the Super Dragon Balls get destroyed and the Universes can't come back, everyone present during the tournament can just move to Universe 7 afterward. That doesn't account for the countless lives being lost due to all of the other Universes being destroyed though.

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Post by Faisal Shourov » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:50 pm

supersaiyangodgogeta wrote:Not seeing why Champa would die. The tournament isn't going to held in any of the Universes and all of the gods and the fighters will be in the same place. Assuming that the Super Dragon Balls get destroyed and the Universes can't come back, everyone present during the tournament can just move to Universe 7 afterward. That doesn't account for the countless lives being lost due to all of the other Universes being destroyed though.
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Post by Beerus-sama » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:52 pm

Where are people getting the idea the gods and their Universe fighters will be killed aswell?
What was said for this arc was that the loser's Universe will be destroyed. Am I missing something?

Eitherway its still pretty bad, all those guys are going to lose their homes for a tournament just because Goku wanted to fight strong people :evil:
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Post by buutenks » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:04 pm

Heh, so every GoD and their fighters will be stuck in uni7(cos we know that;s the one who will win obviously) or they restore all universe with the Super Dragon Balls.

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Post by Faisal Shourov » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:13 pm

buutenks wrote:Heh, so every GoD and their fighters will be stuck in uni7(cos we know that;s the one who will win obviously) or they restore all universe with the Super Dragon Balls.
Seeing how Super Dragon Balls were not used to restore Future Trunks timeline, I doubt it will be used in this arc.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:41 pm

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buutenks wrote:Heh, so every GoD and their fighters will be stuck in uni7(cos we know that;s the one who will win obviously) or they restore all universe with the Super Dragon Balls.
Seeing how Super Dragon Balls were not used to restore Future Trunks timeline, I doubt it will be used in this arc.
Didn't they use the Super Dragon Balls after the end of the Champa arc, which not too long before the Future Trunks arc began? I mean, I'm assuming that like the other sets of Dragon Ball, the Super Dragon Balls have a cooldown period before you can use them again.

Anyway, I think Beerus will be very mad at Goku for reminding Zeno about the tournament. Yeah, Goku had no idea it would lead to such a drastic stipulation, but he was specifically warned by Beerus and Whis about Zeno's unpredictable behaviour. But Goku is a blood knight. So if he sees a good chance for a good fight, he'll take it, irregardless of the repercussions. We've seen him act like this several times in the past.

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Post by Beerus-sama » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:58 pm

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Faisal Shourov wrote:
buutenks wrote:Heh, so every GoD and their fighters will be stuck in uni7(cos we know that;s the one who will win obviously) or they restore all universe with the Super Dragon Balls.
Seeing how Super Dragon Balls were not used to restore Future Trunks timeline, I doubt it will be used in this arc.
Didn't they use the Super Dragon Balls after the end of the Champa arc, which not too long before the Future Trunks arc began? I mean, I'm assuming that like the other sets of Dragon Ball, the Super Dragon Balls have a cooldown period before you can use them again.
They could have waited for a year for them to cooldown and then another time off screen for collecting them again with Shampa's help (if they went to where they were initially).
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Post by AloversGaming » Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:50 am

I'd love if Super ends up with a big, final showdown between Son Goku and Beerus. Beerus throws threats around too much for me to continue being a fan of his half the time, and it'd be a great way to cap the series off, too.

As for the topic; I think if the episodes are written well enough, and Goku isn't forgiven should they win and somehow every universe is saved, that Beerus and Whis will start keeping a closer eye on Goku and the power he's gaining.

I mentioned something similar back in the Battle Of The Gods arc; Son Goku is becoming too powerful to be considered anything less than a massive risk to everything that exists. Beerus would be in the complete right to erase him if he were to do so.

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Post by Lord Frieza » Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:37 am

supersaiyangodgogeta wrote:Not seeing why Champa would die. The tournament isn't going to held in any of the Universes and all of the gods and the fighters will be in the same place. Assuming that the Super Dragon Balls get destroyed and the Universes can't come back, everyone present during the tournament can just move to Universe 7 afterward.
And thats a good thing?! Beerus and Champa are very dangerous in their own right and they are considered ok guys when compared to their fellow Gods of Destruction.

I find the idea of having 10 very pissed off GoD all dumped into the universe that started all this and beat their fighters to be horrifying, it will be a blood bath.

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Post by RehBeh » Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:55 am

I don't see something like this happening. Maybe he will get really mad at him, but not to the point to hate him, especially if his universe is victorious.
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ekrolo2 wrote: He is, its just that no one holds him in high esteem, even in-universe.
He must feel awful. Being a God and no one respects him. Just sad.
And Zamasu thought he had it bad. Fuckin' edgy Kaios thinking about "Justice" and shit just because they got strong by chance.

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Post by RehBeh » Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:00 am

Lord Frieza wrote:
I find the idea of having 10 very pissed off GoD all dumped into the universe that started all this and beat their fighters to be horrifying, it will be a blood bath.
That would actuality make a very good arc. Goku and pal's are hiding and running to save their lives, while bloodlusted gods lay waste to their world. It would be a battle were brute strength won't help them so they're forced to find another way to win.

Maybe that's too morbid for Dragon Ball.
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DBZ Macky wrote:
RehBeh wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote: He is, its just that no one holds him in high esteem, even in-universe.
He must feel awful. Being a God and no one respects him. Just sad.
And Zamasu thought he had it bad. Fuckin' edgy Kaios thinking about "Justice" and shit just because they got strong by chance.

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Post by Lord Frieza » Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:02 am

RehBeh wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote:
I find the idea of having 10 very pissed off GoD all dumped into the universe that started all this and beat their fighters to be horrifying, it will be a blood bath.
That would actuality make a very good arc. Goku and pal's are hiding and running to save their lives, while bloodlusted gods lay waste to their world. It would be a battle were brute strength won't help them so they're forced to find another way to win.

Maybe that's too morbid for Dragon Ball.
Not really, thats almost Trunk's entire life.

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Post by RehBeh » Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:11 am

Lord Frieza wrote:
Not really, thats almost Trunk's entire life.
You talk about the morbidness? Or about this arc idea as too similar to Trunks life?
GT wasn't that bad
DBZ Macky wrote:
RehBeh wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote: He is, its just that no one holds him in high esteem, even in-universe.
He must feel awful. Being a God and no one respects him. Just sad.
And Zamasu thought he had it bad. Fuckin' edgy Kaios thinking about "Justice" and shit just because they got strong by chance.

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Post by Lord Frieza » Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:19 am

RehBeh wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote:
Not really, thats almost Trunk's entire life.
You talk about the morbidness? Or about this arc idea as too similar to Trunks life?
The former, Trunks life has been spent running from monster that have slaughtered his loved ones while he has been powerless for the most part. One of those monsters insured he can never go home again.

All I mean is its a good idea and its not to much for db.

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RehBeh wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote:
I find the idea of having 10 very pissed off GoD all dumped into the universe that started all this and beat their fighters to be horrifying, it will be a blood bath.
That would actuality make a very good arc. Goku and pal's are hiding and running to save their lives, while bloodlusted gods lay waste to their world. It would be a battle were brute strength won't help them so they're forced to find another way to win.

Maybe that's too morbid for Dragon Ball.
Another good idea could be a Godslayers Saga where the Gods are being killed off one-by-one (of course this would take place far later down the line).
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Post by Saturnine » Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:26 pm

Faisal Shourov wrote:
buutenks wrote:Heh, so every GoD and their fighters will be stuck in uni7(cos we know that;s the one who will win obviously) or they restore all universe with the Super Dragon Balls.
Seeing how Super Dragon Balls were not used to restore Future Trunks timeline, I doubt it will be used in this arc.
That's because they've settled on a different solution, which while isn't entirely perfect, is acceptable. Not to mention that Beerus and Whis would never, ever help with a wish that would restore an additional timeline - don't forget that creating new timelines is a grave transgression.

This tournament, on the other hand, is a much better opportunity to use the Super DBs.

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Post by RehBeh » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:05 pm

Lord Frieza wrote:
RehBeh wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote:
Not really, thats almost Trunk's entire life.
You talk about the morbidness? Or about this arc idea as too similar to Trunks life?
The former, Trunks life has been spent running from monster that have slaughtered his loved ones while he has been powerless for the most part. One of those monsters insured he can never go home again.

All I mean is its a good idea and its not to much for db.
Something that bugged me during F. Trunks arc, is that Zamasu destroys the Earth and then Omni-King obliterares it. However that's instantly thrown in the carbage can when Whia takes him to his Universe before Zamasu attacks. They should have made him move to Cell's timeline, where a Bulma without her son leaves. But no, everything's fine Whis will take us back (with two of ourselves hanging around casually)
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DBZ Macky wrote:
RehBeh wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote: He is, its just that no one holds him in high esteem, even in-universe.
He must feel awful. Being a God and no one respects him. Just sad.
And Zamasu thought he had it bad. Fuckin' edgy Kaios thinking about "Justice" and shit just because they got strong by chance.

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Post by RehBeh » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:07 pm

TheMathemagician wrote:
RehBeh wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote:
I find the idea of having 10 very pissed off GoD all dumped into the universe that started all this and beat their fighters to be horrifying, it will be a blood bath.
That would actuality make a very good arc. Goku and pal's are hiding and running to save their lives, while bloodlusted gods lay waste to their world. It would be a battle were brute strength won't help them so they're forced to find another way to win.

Maybe that's too morbid for Dragon Ball.
Another good idea could be a Godslayers Saga where the Gods are being killed off one-by-one (of course this would take place far later down the line).
Zamasu did this by some extent. If there's someone who kills the Hakaishin directly, well that would be a threat.
GT wasn't that bad
DBZ Macky wrote:
RehBeh wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote: He is, its just that no one holds him in high esteem, even in-universe.
He must feel awful. Being a God and no one respects him. Just sad.
And Zamasu thought he had it bad. Fuckin' edgy Kaios thinking about "Justice" and shit just because they got strong by chance.

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Post by Lord Frieza » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:10 pm

RehBeh wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote:
RehBeh wrote:
You talk about the morbidness? Or about this arc idea as too similar to Trunks life?
The former, Trunks life has been spent running from monster that have slaughtered his loved ones while he has been powerless for the most part. One of those monsters insured he can never go home again.

All I mean is its a good idea and its not to much for db.
Something that bugged me during F. Trunks arc, is that Zamasu destroys the Earth and then Omni-King obliterares it. However that's instantly thrown in the carbage can when Whia takes him to his Universe before Zamasu attacks. They should have made him move to Cell's timeline, where a Bulma without her son leaves. But no, everything's fine Whis will take us back (with two of ourselves hanging around casually)
Well the problem with that is that they have no way of getting their accurately, Trunks time machine has been set to this passed and the new one might have been re-set so it cannot go to its original timeline.

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