Australian/Madman (R4) Dragon Ball Box Sets: Review

kakadu · Post by **kakadu** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:19 am

in these dragon ball sets , does the Saga of Goku have the consistent English voice actors.

SonEric84 · Post by **SonEric84** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:20 am

kakadu wrote:in these dragon ball sets , does the Saga of Goku have the consistent English voice actors.

Yeah, they're uncut and have the current funimation voice actors.

bkev · Post by **bkev** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:49 pm

OK, I watched the clip (thanks Kula!). My computer always brings out the worst of these kind of things, so I can't give an honest review - however, I must say that in motion this doesn't look TOO bad. However, if paused...

Whoops, took the shot in 16:9 mode in VLC, but eh.

SatoSky · Post by **SatoSky** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 4:42 pm

Your screen cap looks like that because it is interlaced, bkev. On a television or a program like PowerDVD, it wouldn't look anywhere near that bad.

bkev · Post by **bkev** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:48 pm

As said, my comptuer brings out the worst of those kinds of things (ie interlacing.) However, the "ghosting" as I call it is from the clip and not the fact that I used VLC.

ect5150 · Post by **ect5150** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:45 pm

bkev wrote:As said, my comptuer brings out the worst of those kinds of things (ie interlacing.) However, the "ghosting" as I call it is from the clip and not the fact that I used VLC.

Then you need to use a program to DE-Interlace it and ideally restore its original 24 fps on the fly (or just do a frame-doubler). There are programs that do it just fine.

I thought VLC would connect to ffdshow, which should do the trick. Makes it look far better. Of course, the best thing is to make your own AVISynth script to handle it

Mystic Jack · Post by **Mystic Jack** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:08 am

I've had these for a while now, after buying them at an Australian convention. I'm very happy to have them.

ect5150 · Post by **ect5150** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:22 am

I just bought the first half of the set myself. Waiting on Madman to mail it though. Its been 'processing' for about a week. hopefully they'll deliver the goods.

OutRun2 · Post by **OutRun2** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:12 am

my set should arrive any day now

fps_anth · Post by **fps_anth** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:14 pm

All right, I'm ready to finally buy the set. However, there is something I must ask. I have a region free DVD player. However, does that ensure that I will be able to view these DVDs on my TV?

Ex-Dubbie369 · Post by **Ex-Dubbie369** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:29 pm

fps_anth wrote:All right, I'm ready to finally buy the set. However, there is something I must ask. I have a region free DVD player. However, does that ensure that I will be able to view these DVDs on my TV?

Well, I have a DVD player that converts PAL to NTSC. I'm not sure if there are gonna be any problems with video quality by just hacking the DVD player's region settings. If nothing else, just use your computer since it doesn't care about formats.

SatoSky · Post by **SatoSky** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:55 pm

fps_anth wrote:All right, I'm ready to finally buy the set. However, there is something I must ask. I have a region free DVD player. However, does that ensure that I will be able to view these DVDs on my TV?

If you have a region free DVD player and a fairly new TV it's all good. When I bought the Saga of Goku sets I was worried about that myself, but it turned out fine.

SonGokuGT · Post by **SonGokuGT** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:18 pm

I have PowerDVD and the interlacing makes it look horrible... :/

SatoSky · Post by **SatoSky** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:19 pm

SonGokuGT wrote:I have PowerDVD and the interlacing makes it look horrible... :/

Is de-interlacing enabled? It should automatically be on, but if it isn't go to:
Configuration: Video: Advanced and there should be three options to choose from. I just go with Auto-Select. Hope that helps.

EDIT: You can also de-interlace in VLC; just right click and highlight the Deinterlace option. Blend usually works best.

Death-T · Post by **Death-T** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:24 pm

I tried watching the clip with PowerDVD as you suggested,and I saw no problems with it at all. Even when I paused it. So I'm sure it would look just fine on a TV to like SatoSky said.

But can you take pictures with PowerDVD like you can with VLC ? I'll see if I can and try and upload the same picture as taken above for comparison.

SatoSky · Post by **SatoSky** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:32 pm

Yea you can take images with PowerDVD as well. Here's how you do it.

I saved you the trouble of going for bkev's image though:

There it is in it's OAR.

ect5150 · Post by **ect5150** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:49 pm

SatoSky wrote:EDIT: You can also de-interlace in VLC; just right click and highlight the Deinterlace option. Blend usually works best.

I'm splitting hairs here (and I have no idea what options VLC has in it), but DB/DBZ/DBGT is animated at 24 (23.976) frames per second. Therefore an actual inverse telecine process will restore the progressive frames and restore the original frame rate. Just blending the fields won't do that.

If it has that option, that's the one you want to take.

Death-T · Post by **Death-T** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:54 pm

SatoSky wrote:Yea you can take images with PowerDVD as well. Here's how you do it.

I saved you the trouble of going for bkev's image though:

-http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3953/pdvd004jr0.png-

There it is in it's OAR.

Ok,thanks. Yeah it looks just fine.

SatoSky · Post by **SatoSky** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:17 pm

ect5150 wrote:
SatoSky wrote:EDIT: You can also de-interlace in VLC; just right click and highlight the Deinterlace option. Blend usually works best.
I'm splitting hairs here (and I have no idea what options VLC has in it), but DB/DBZ/DBGT is animated at 24 (23.976) frames per second. Therefore an actual inverse telecine process will restore the progressive frames and restore the original frame rate. Just blending the fields won't do that.

If it has that option, that's the one you want to take.

Yea you're totally right. VLC just performs an "on-the-fly" de-interlace. It doesn't do anything to the actual footage, it just makes the interlacing less apparent, and somewhat reduces the ghosting. You still get some jagged edges. If a proper de-interlacing is needed, I go with an AVI Synth script that smoothly de-interlaces the footage, and restores it to it's proper 24 FPS. Actually 23.976 FPS but you know that. I only use that for backing up my movies as progressive frame encodes, for quick viewing of a clip I just use VLC's options.

Vegard Aune · Post by **Vegard Aune** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:59 pm

SatoSky wrote:f a proper de-interlacing is needed, I go with an AVI Synth script that smoothly de-interlaces the footage, and restores it to it's proper 24 FPS.

Mind telling me how to do that?