New series or GT?

[SsjCookie]

Is the future of DB Super fixed?
And by fixed I mean, will it flow over into GT or will there be a complete new series?

We all know that in GT characters will become UGH! , so I'm actually hoping there will be a new series.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Pan and Bra happened, so we know time is progressing, even though Goten and Trunks seem to be frozen. I think that Super will probably surpass EoZ and overwrite GT at some point, but there's obviously no way to know for sure.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Why not a mix of both?

After Super TOEI could remake GT and change around the story so that the two can co-exist.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Why not a mix of both?

After Super TOEI could remake GT and change around the story so that the two can co-exist.

They could, but there's no particular reason for them too. It's far more likely that we'll continue to get original stories. After all, GT is GT, a remake wouldn't make it not GT. I'd hardly say it's worth it just for continuity fixes.

[AloversGaming]

GT has nothing to do with anything, and I hope it stays that way.

Wish Super stole Dan Dan though

[SsjCookie]

I hope they treat GT like a possible time-line of "could have", and that characters turn out different in a possible new series.
That really would make my day.

Lets be honest, we don't want to see all the (half) Saiyans becoming wimps again.

[Lek]

Personally, I wouldn't mind if they go past the End of Z, make Pan + Goten + Trunks the new focus of the show and have them explore the other universes (if they are still around or new ones are created by then).

But as long as we get anything Dragon Ball, I'll gladly take it no matter what

[SsjCookie]

Personally, I wouldn't mind if they go past the End of Z, make Pan + Goten + Trunks the new focus of the show and have them explore the other universes (if they are still around or new ones are created by then).

But as long as we get anything Dragon Ball, I'll gladly take it no matter what

I like the idea of the next generation taking over sometime in the future, but I'm afraid Goku will always have the centre stage in this as well.
Since well...he is the main character and all.

[Lek]

Personally I don't have a problem with Goku being the main character. But the actual problem that results from him being in charge is that they will inevitably write themselves into a corner. If the protagonist is the strongest character in the universe in existense, then you've got no stakes, resulting in no tension.

They tried to overcome that in GT by making him a kid again, limiting his power a little bit. But in my opinion it would suit him to take on a guiding role like master Roshi. Or like himself in the post-GT-movie.

[BlueBasilisk]

Personally, I wouldn't mind if they go past the End of Z, make Pan + Goten + Trunks the new focus of the show and have them explore the other universes (if they are still around or new ones are created by then).

But as long as we get anything Dragon Ball, I'll gladly take it no matter what

I like the idea of the next generation taking over sometime in the future, but I'm afraid Goku will always have the centre stage in this as well.
Since well...he is the main character and all.

Probably the easiest thing to do would have Goku step up into the mentor role. Eventually he's going to run out of stronger mortal foes to fight. Let the kids go on adventures that wouldn't require his attention and Goku can focus on training to overcome Beerus/Whis/the other gods while popping in every now and then to offer advice. Sort of like Yo! Son Goku and Friends Return.

[Ki Breaker]

Super should go past eoz just enough to not have gt exist in any form..
That would be enough..
And it probably will do this too

[SsjCookie]

Personally, I wouldn't mind if they go past the End of Z, make Pan + Goten + Trunks the new focus of the show and have them explore the other universes (if they are still around or new ones are created by then).

But as long as we get anything Dragon Ball, I'll gladly take it no matter what

I like the idea of the next generation taking over sometime in the future, but I'm afraid Goku will always have the centre stage in this as well.
Since well...he is the main character and all.

Probably the easiest thing to do would have Goku step up into the mentor role. Eventually he's going to run out of stronger mortal foes to fight. Let the kids go on adventures that wouldn't require his attention and Goku can focus on training to overcome Beerus/Whis/the other gods while popping in every now and then to offer advice. Sort of like Yo! Son Goku and Friends Return.

Goku as a mentor?
It sounds as the most logical next step in Goku's evolution as a character.
For the sake of the earth it would indeed be for the best if he would pass on his fighting knowledge to the next generation.
It would be the smart thing to do, I can see it happening.

[Low Tone G]

I don't want a new series, just skip after EoZ already!!! There's no point to stick in this post-Majin Buu period, especeially nowdays when we have guys like Black/Zamasu and this Zen-universal tournament...

How could they justify this time gap of peace with this mass-murdering and actual worlds ceasing to exist?!

[Israelite Wolfman]

Let's begin with the simple fact they can look at the Dragon Ball Online chronology after the End of Z and to think of a story that will lead into these events. But not necessarily erase GT. Their main problem in Dragon Ball GT (was a decent anime for it's own with all it's flaws it still gets a 75/100 from me, it just fell short in comparison to it's two predecessors) was focusing on Goku over the limit of "too much" and neglecting the others, I never liked the idea a Saiyan can go naked Golden Great Ape in order to transform into a SSJ4 who has back most of his previous clothes (since when a power up gives one new clothes, wrist protectors & shoes?? it's not like Piccolo taught them the clothing beam..). But SSJ 4 is a great transformation that needs to stay. Due to Super's Super Saiyan God forms being part of the new canon, their multiplier should be explained and SSB to be somehow slightly less than SSJ 4, let's say SSG is a x600 multiplier, SSB is x750 and SSJ4 is x1000. Also, I find the tanned look Goku & Roshi got in the original run of this show weird as none of them was ever depicted with this pigment (I get it that back in the 1990s surfing culture and hitting the beach was a thing, but it's not an excuse to make them look ridiculous like they've been hitting the tanning booth for a few hours before being drawn for each episode).

About passing the End of Z - I believe that Gohan should take the lead for once (could have done it in DBZ with the 7 years time gap while Goku was dead before Gohan went full nerdo in Satan City), taking out all sorts of enemies that will try to take advantage of the Dragon Balls or just annex the Earth for whatever reason - they already had demons (Dabura, even though not being used properly), serial killer god (Zamasu), space overlords, androids and mystical beings (Majin Buu); now they have to pitch a new thing for us. As Goku and Uub are training to make him Goku's replacement (Goku's improvement in power somewhat stops due to his investment in Uub to be able to catch on with his God Ki), Vegeta who notices the lack of Goku's growth in power decides to stay in shape but to be with his family (Bulma & growing up Bra) for a while thus leaving Earth's protection for the other Z-Fighters: Gohan, Piccolo, Goten, Trunks, Krillin (again: don't OVER AGE him), Tien, Yamcha, Chiaotzu (to make it feel more like the original DB team, just ditch worthless Roshi to retire again), Majin Buu (should also play a major part in the passing of EoZ and GT's retelling, since he's still a top level fighter in the Universal Scale, just not a "god". After founding the Majin race on Earth as stated in DBO he should be a main character in chilled episodes and a Z-Fighter at conflicts trying to save Satan, Bee & his new family. I also don't want him to be permanently fused with Uub = Majuub should last only 1 hour like Vegito works; after the Baby conflict but to be the "mentor" of the Majin Race/his descendants who are more sapient than him about the Earth's lifestyle) & Jaco.
Incorporating the Neko Majin Z interactions with the Dragon Ball cast into the passing of Z could be fun, even though having a Vegeta who can go SSJ and is getting orders from a long dead Frieza could be a thing needed to be fixed. Also borrowing ideas from Toriyama's interviews before DBS could be good - have an episode of how older age life is going on for Tien & Chiaotzu as farmers, romantic relationship with Lunch, Yamcha retires from being a long time baseball star and finds himself bored so he joins a nightclub as an host, but things aren't going so well there... etc.

GT should fix the whole Goku being wished to a kid again to make it GOKU TIME by making him bounded to the Earth due to the Black Star Dragon Balls' powers = if he'll leave the planet, Earth will explode right away, making his other friends to go into space, touring the galaxy to locate the balls for him (they have only one year to locate them all): Gohan, Goten, Trunks, Uub (trying to save his mentor), Vegeta, Piccolo, Pan (I'd say write out Giru, but maybe this would be like a little brother relations for her & a key for the Baby Saga) & Krillin (don't OVER AGE him again) with each going after a Dragon Ball via a smaller space craft that is intended to land/join the mother ship where Vegeta is at monitoring the operation (I don't want it to be a bloodthirsty adventure, he'd kill anyone in his way despite some conflicts can end without violence). Keep Baby as it was with all the Tsufurizations of Earth but indeed to give him a-la-Zamasu view of the world (believing he's doing the right thing exterminating Saiyans), have Piccolo made the ultimate sacrifice so the Black Stars Dragon Balls would cease to exist, he'll be named Hell's Keeper by King Yemma to help the Ogres there with problems. It's important to make Goku an adult again once obtaining the SSJ 4 form! BTW write out the Para Para Brothers, they always seemed to me like a bunch of bad General Rildo sketches who somehow got animated & that were given the stupid dancing lust to milk the Ginyu Force act again (gyunyu pun intended).

Then have a filler arc about Pan's going back to School's boredom despite her last year's adventure, suddenly Don Kee appears in town looking for revenge with Gale & Shela alongside a few weaker clones of Ledgic he managed to create from his blood that was shed during the match with Gohan on Imecka (yup, totally based on that 1997 GT musical).

Next: Switch Super 17 with Super Android 13 (making him canon), have all 3 androids (13, 14, 15) who were hidden in another secret lab awaken to monitor Cell's behavior/achievements with much greater power than his Perfect form due to being overloaded with data of self-improvement ever since Android 16 was activated provided by another spy camera robot, they realize that Cell had failed and decides to gather the Dragon Balls with a Dragon Radar implanted at their scanners and wish back Dr. Gero (who AS WELL has no ki so he's not traceable), they have 2 more wishes to ask Shenron and decide to give them to Gero, who in return wishes for an era of havoc upon Earth for mocking his wisdom, after Shenron fails to understand that, Gero asks for the revival of Dr. Myuu (who do have a ki) who he met in hell with the 2nd wish and to bring his physical body from Planet M-2 to Earth with the 3rd wish, they disappear into the shadows (Myuu lowers his ki to 0) for a while knowing the Z-Fighters may defeat them again once noticed, Piccolo who is in hell realizes BOTH Gero & Myuu had been revived and asks the others to keep their eyes open for further surprises, the two "doctors" began working on a Machine Mutant based technology that would be implanted into the 3 existing androids and will make them stronger to the point each of them can cause even SSJ adult Goku troubles, the whole process takes roughly 6 months, at the same time Vegeta's envy of Goku being now much stronger than him will cause Bulma to work on a Blutz Waves machine right after the Baby menace had gone, making him SSJ 4 too earlier in the series, the attack on Earth begins with Dr. Gero showing up in Android 17's park, much to his shock, he taunts him and tell him that this time he won't be the one to lose his head, **SLIZZZ** Android 14 pierce his stomach from behind, while 17 is in pain Gero punches and kicks him to the ground till he asks 13 to execute him to "get rid of the trash", 13 replies: "with pleasure..." and shoots a ki blast at the dying 17's face from close range. The death of 17 is sensed by 18 who goes to the forest and finds his beaten up body, Krillin follows her and has a bad feeling about staying there, he contact Goku and Gohan and informs them of what just happened, then the attack on West City begins, Gero, Myuu and their 3 androids rampage on the streets near Capsule Corp aiming to get there, Vegeta & Goku step outside and fly right into the danger zone, the two of them and their kids managed to defeat the 3 androids after a close battle while Dr. Gero joined Myuu who have used Gero's Dragon Radar technology to collect the Dragon Balls under their noses ASAP with fury about Baby's defeat and wishes for everyone who ever caused Goku and his friends pain or troubles to be revived from hell to the very place he's at (South City), the gates of hell are opening and the entire planet is covered by tons of villains, even the Galactic Frieza Army as a whole (Frieza Force alone should be at least 10,000 men group to maintain Cold's family universal empire) are revived and launch an attack all over the planet, the non-Saiyan Z-Fighters joins the party and fight them to the death, it'd be great to have all sort of guys from the past joining the battle for Earth's sake led by Pan & Uub, let's say: Yajirobe, Korin, Master Roshi (despite I still hate the fact he got casted to RoF while Yamcha & Chiaotzu sat it out), Android 18 (who came to avenge her twin brother, hoping to revive him later), Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, Chiaotzu, Pilaf Gang, Nam, Bora & Upa, Giran, Android 8 (each to be fighting enemies on their tier). Meanwhile Goku and co. who see the havoc caused all over are about to land a hand but Android 13's core card was still activating and due to his Machine Mutant DNA he could pull a General Rildo act and absorb all his peers' shattered bodies into his own shattered one thus creating Super 13 who is much more powerful than Golden Great Ape Baby Vegeta was by a margin Dr. Gero's super computer was able to manufacture (let's say 135% Baby's full power), during the fight between SSJ 4 Goku, SSJ 4 Vegeta and the new enemy, Myuu who is just a rival ego maniac to Gero would try to cheat on Gero (much to his surprise) so he'd be the sole ruler of the universe, but Gero won't go down easily, he attacks Myuu with his strongest technique which makes him fatally injured (Myuu should be weaker than him IMO), each of them ask Super 13 to kill the other, the machine goes mad due to being programmed to obey both their voices and kills them both. The fight continues. ALL ENDS WELL like in the 7th DBZ movie + DBGT Super 17 Final Dragon Fist combined. It may end with a gag of Jaco landing after the battles already over with Z-Fighters' victory, looking to tag along with no one but ruins around him, he comments on terror and realizes that he may be next if he'll stay there too long, he is about to enter his spaceship and run away BUT suddenly Bulma (who just moments ago told Dende to contact the Namekians so Earth's casualties could be revived) appears behind him, slaps his head and begins shouting at him that he should have flied faster as the locals already took care of the problems without the "useless Galactic Patrol", much to his embarrassment (the Z-Fighters laugh along as Bulma keeps slapping him as he tries to get on his ship **, camera pans back to zoom out on the scene and surroundings and then moves up to the sky, where a glimpse of sunshine rays is shown, ending the saga & episode with an optimistic tone**).

Have another filler arc with Beerus and Zalama - Goku and co. try to revive Piccolo but they can't do it without activating the bad Dragon Balls again, so they need an expert of these orbs: who other than the Dragon God himself. But he is not satisfied with Beerus' request to help them, as it's important to Universe 7's well being, and want them to prove themselves worthy for his help so he makes up a small tournament where Goku and Co. have to face illusions of the strongest fighters known to him. Then have the evil dragons saga with as many fighters that can go after each dragon (2-3 episodes per a dragon).

[Basaku]

Why not a mix of both?

After Super TOEI could remake GT and change around the story so that the two can co-exist.

They can't. Super added too much. They would have to do a ton of pointless railroading to make it all somehow fit. Kaioshin & Kibito fused again, for some nonsense reason, Goku/Vegeta stripped of Godly powers etc.

[sangofe]

Is the future of DB Super fixed?
And by fixed I mean, will it flow over into GT or will there be a complete new series?

We all know that in GT characters will become UGH! , so I'm actually hoping there will be a new series.

With that new filter I think it's doomed. At least from my personal point of view. I find it disastrous.

[Chuquita]

I don't like what GT did to Gokû and Vegeta (turning one into a kid, giving the other that awful haircut and moustache) so new series all the way.

[omaro34]

I'm a GT canonist, so GT every day and twice on Sundays.

[Ki Breaker]

How could they justify this time gap of peace with this mass-murdering and actual worlds ceasing to exist?!

Goku didn't understand what happened and everyone decided to play along

[Low Tone G]

How could they justify this time gap of peace with this mass-murdering and actual worlds ceasing to exist?!

Goku didn't understand what happened and everyone decided to play along

I am not sure what you are meaning. Please explain....