Gohan's Kamehameha

tapion 15 · Post by **tapion 15** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:06 pm

How come Gohan's Kamehameha was golden yellow whe he blasted the sphere Majin Buu was in, and the other Kamehamehas are blue?

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:48 pm

Could it have been a new attack? Maybe he developed a "Super Sajin Kamahamaha".Or I could go the easy route and say the coloring department messed up.

Godo · Post by **Godo** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:03 pm

A wizard did it.

Just kidding.

This couldn't be the only time this has happened? I can vaguely recall kamehamehas being yellow before.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:13 pm

Godo wrote: This couldn't be the only time this has happened? I can vaguely recall kamehamehas being yellow before.

Are you thinking of some of the early Dragonball Z games for the Super Famicom? Butoden 1 had yellow Kamahamahas. A lot of animated Gifs are ripped from that game so you may be remembering one of those.
Edit: Budokai 1 also had the yellow Kamahamahas

tapion 15 · Post by **tapion 15** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:20 pm

No, it was an episode that aired on Cartoon Network and he did the kamehameha and blasted the Buu Sphere but nothing was there.

SS2 Vegeto · Post by **SS2 Vegeto** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:58 pm

Toei did it. Basically the real world equivolent of "a wizard did it".

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:35 am

"Kamehameha" might have just been dubbed in. Anyone know if that's in the original dialogue? I'd check the manga but I'm...lazy...

Snail · Post by **Snail** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:49 am

He doesn't even say anything in the manga. He just does poses similar to the Kamehameha's and shazam!

Tyro · Post by **Tyro** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:11 am

I agree. There have been at least a handful of times when normal ki blasts have looked like the Kamehameha. Goku's "fire ball" against Nappa comes to mind. I don't see a reason why Gohan's ki blast to Majin Boo's ball couldn't have been a regular ki blast.

raz1337 · Post by **raz1337** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:09 pm

Weird, the ki ball looks so small to be a kamehameha. What did he say in the original jap footage?

tapion 15 · Post by **tapion 15** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:45 pm

I don't know, does anyone have the episode number for that episode?

gohanku · Post by **gohanku** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:48 pm

Maybe being in Super Saiyan effects the colour of the ki you emit? That my theory, Super Vegeta, Trunks, all the Super Saiyan got yellowish-gold ki blasts.

The S · Post by **The S** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:36 pm

raz1337 wrote:Weird... the ki ball looks too small to be a Kamehameha. What did he say in the original Japanese footage?

Sentence fixed for political correctness (and since I was was at it, spelling).

If I remember correctly didn't Supersonic Warriors have yellow Kamehameha as well?

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:39 pm

gohanku wrote:Maybe being in Super Saiyan effects the colour of the ki you emit? That my theory, Super Vegeta, Trunks, all the Super Saiyan got yellowish-gold ki blasts.

But still blue Kamehamehas.

Just because he shot a beam, even using those arm/hand motions, doesn't make it a Kamehameha. A proper (and blue) Kamehameha probably comes from charging or channeling ki in a certain way.

Come to think of it, how does certain hand motions determine how ki is charged or formed, anyhoo? In theory, couldn't Vegeta just stand there all typically scowly with his arms folded, and charge and fire a Garlic Gun with his nose or something?

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:12 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:But still blue Kamehamehas.

Just because he shot a beam, even using those arm/hand motions, doesn't make it a Kamehameha. A proper (and blue) Kamehameha probably comes from charging or channeling ki in a certain way.

Actually, not every Kamehame-Ha has to be blue. The version Buu uses during his first battle with SSJ3 Goku is pink, that of which Goku points out is the attack. Also, along in GT when Gohan is possessed by Bebi, his attack has a pink color to it. Though with the manga in its black-and-white status, the incidents with Gohan attacking Buu's ball and Buu himself may be argued as anime-only. If that makes sense?

tapion 15 · Post by **tapion 15** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:49 pm

Maybe it depends on the person who uses it. I don't know, but also in some games, they have the blue kamehameha,.

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:21 pm

Ok, so the best reference for energy manipulation I can think of is TaiChi energy presses (Blarg, that book is around here somewhere...). I tend to think of DBZ's ki techniques as being a combination of beefed up and dramaticized TaiChi techniques (A lot of ki attacks behave a lot like matter to fit into the "super big normal energy attack" category).

Long story short, certain motions and such in TaiChi practices have two purposes: to perfect the body, and to perfect the flow of energy through the body (umm, if I'm wrong, please correct me... I'll also reference chikung, here, as related on the energy side of things). Granted, this says little for hand motions during attacks...
Poses though have some relevance... related to energy pathways and... other ... stuff. Typical practice is to move energy through skeletal paths (which contradicts my theory for explaining energy displacement, but egh)... and since bones terminate in the hands, and ... well, other stuff, the hands are the ideal place for projecting energy (and it's easier to control, etc...). I guess someone like Vegeta could blast through his nose (Eye and mouth beams are used, after all), but... I don't know.

So, I wasn't too surprised when a style of energy press in the TaiChi book whose title and Author I conveniently don't recall was very similar to the Kamehameha in the diagram of posture (two-handed press). But then we get other jing techniques that are similar to others seen in DBZ based on the way the energy is manipulated (spiral jing... cutting jing(Apparently this was similar to what Freeza used on Vegeta)).

Of course, the ground is pretty important in a lot of these techniques, and the level of power used is humungous in DBZ... though I'd imagine such energy manipulation techniques appear in fiction for a reason.

The only explanation I can come up with for handmotions is that they allow energy to be moved a certain way... and that the DBZ characters can pull this off in the time they do (even with filler) is a huge testament to their control, not just power (focusing on the hand motinos and dealing with the energy... that takes a pretty perfect mindset).

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:45 pm

Tyro wrote:I agree. There have been at least a handful of times when normal ki blasts have looked like the Kamehameha. Goku's "fire ball" against Nappa comes to mind.

Actually Goku said afterward that it was a kamehameha. ^_^;;

Basically any movement where they don't shout kamehameha but it looks like one is a kamehameha where they didn't shout the name of the technique.

For instance, all ki attacks are kikoha.

tapion 15 · Post by **tapion 15** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:46 pm

It kind of is like TaiChi, energy movemts, controling your energy, focusing your energy in one area, so it is possible to have a ki blast out of your nose (all characters exept Krillin).

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:23 pm

tapion 15 wrote:so it is possible to have a ki blast out of your nose (all characters exept Krillin).

And Marron pre-puberty.

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