New series or GT?

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Re: New series or GT?

Post by SansrivaaL » Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:15 pm

We already had GT, so rather than that, just go with a new series, with no turning the main character into a midget. Tho I do wish they take SSJ4 into the new series, SSJ4's dope.

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Re: New series or GT?

Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:17 pm

Low Tone G wrote:
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Low Tone G wrote:How could they justify this time gap of peace with this mass-murdering and actual worlds ceasing to exist?!
Goku didn't understand what happened and everyone decided to play along
I am not sure what you are meaning. Please explain....
Goku thought he was having fun all time, black was just like his brother who played with him!
When someone mentioned it's been hard lately goku says waaaaaht it's been so much fun fighting strong opportunents I don't understand what you guys sayyyyying..

And everyone decides to humour his "peace time" logic out of pity
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Re: New series or GT?

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:19 pm

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Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:Why not a mix of both?

After Super TOEI could remake GT and change around the story so that the two can co-exist.
They can't. Super added too much. They would have to do a ton of pointless railroading to make it all somehow fit. Kaioshin & Kibito fused again, for some nonsense reason, Goku/Vegeta stripped of Godly powers etc.
I mean TOEI could write a series which incorporates elements of GT (Baby, Shadow Dragons) and changes aspects most fans didn't like, for example keeping Goku as an adult, writing a new story that involves the search for the black star Dragon Balls, keeping Kaioshin and Kibito defused for the sake of continuity. As for the God forms, they can always introduce some sort of limitation that would make Super Saiyan 4 a suitable alternative in certain situations.

Granted its unlikely any such series will be made, but I'd gladly watch it, especially in the (even more unlikely scenario) Tokunaga is brought back to score it.
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Re: New series or GT?

Post by Low Tone G » Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:21 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
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Ki Breaker wrote: Goku didn't understand what happened and everyone decided to play along
I am not sure what you are meaning. Please explain....
Goku thought he was having fun all time, black was just like his brother who played with him!
When someone mentioned it's been hard lately goku says waaaaaht it's been so much fun fighting strong opportunents I don't understand what you guys sayyyyying..

And everyone decides to humour his "peace time" logic out of pity
The truth is, I could imagine all these about Super's Goku... :thumbdown:
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Re: New series or GT?

Post by sintzu » Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:42 pm

SsjCookie wrote:Is the future of DB Super fixed?
And by fixed I mean, will it flow over into GT or will there be a complete new series?
I think the chances of it lining up with GT are slim to none but I wouldn't be surprised if they reuse certain things like Ssj4.
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Re: New series or GT?

Post by TheMikado » Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:44 pm

I've written about this many times, even before the omniking, (With the power to destroy universes) was known about.
My hypothesis is that Goku and Vegeta will have grown too strong from having God ki and some force will reset the timeline to prior to Beerus coming in contact with Goku.
We know that this is a universe survival arc so what if... because Goku and the omniking are friends, the omniking agrees to just reset time prior to Goku meeting Beerus, preventing any of the events in Super from happening.

Its not unfathomable should they lose that instead of getting destroyed that happens.

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Re: New series or GT?

Post by pacz360 » Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:56 pm

TheMikado wrote:I've written about this many times, even before the omniking, (With the power to destroy universes) was known about.
My hypothesis is that Goku and Vegeta will have grown too strong from having God ki and some force will reset the timeline to prior to Beerus coming in contact with Goku.
We know that this is a universe survival arc so what if... because Goku and the omniking are friends, the omniking agrees to just reset time prior to Goku meeting Beerus, preventing any of the events in Super from happening.

Its not unfathomable should they lose that instead of getting destroyed that happens.
Not gonna happen super is a major success compared to gt and making shitloads of money than gt ever did plus it'll be stupid to pull a reset just to try to make gt canon.

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Re: New series or GT?

Post by ChronoTwigger » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:46 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
Low Tone G wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote: Goku didn't understand what happened and everyone decided to play along
I am not sure what you are meaning. Please explain....
Goku thought he was having fun all time, black was just like his brother who played with him!
When someone mentioned it's been hard lately goku says waaaaaht it's been so much fun fighting strong opportunents I don't understand what you guys sayyyyying..

And everyone decides to humour his "peace time" logic out of pity
Well, the bigger things all happens out of Earth, so in a sense it was the longer period of peace on Earth.
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Re: New series or GT?

Post by Low Tone G » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:58 pm

Chrono Twigger wrote:Well, the bigger things all happens out of Earth, so in a sense it was the longer period of peace on Earth.
*** insert Goku trolling face here ***
Except that the final/biggest showdown of the Majin Buu Arc was held in the Sacred Realm of Kais involving the New Namek too. Still, Goku didn't think it was peaceful...
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Re: New series or GT?

Post by Kishido » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:07 pm

We need a spin off with Ranger 17 as main character

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Re: New series or GT?

Post by TheMikado » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:46 pm

pacz360 wrote:
TheMikado wrote:I've written about this many times, even before the omniking, (With the power to destroy universes) was known about.
My hypothesis is that Goku and Vegeta will have grown too strong from having God ki and some force will reset the timeline to prior to Beerus coming in contact with Goku.
We know that this is a universe survival arc so what if... because Goku and the omniking are friends, the omniking agrees to just reset time prior to Goku meeting Beerus, preventing any of the events in Super from happening.

Its not unfathomable should they lose that instead of getting destroyed that happens.
Not gonna happen super is a major success compared to gt and making shitloads of money than gt ever did plus it'll be stupid to pull a reset just to try to make gt canon.
Never said it would be the end of Dragonball series. But I could see them do a post GT one. It would make the entire cast completely new and unique and reset the power levels.
They could do a Goten/Trunks/Pan/Bra bit with Gohan the being a mentor. They could do a time patrol series, there's a ton they could do. Also where are the financial reports for the Super anime? I hear that all the time but no one ever seems to have the links.

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Re: New series or GT?

Post by sintzu » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:51 pm

TheMikado wrote:My hypothesis is that Goku and Vegeta will have grown too strong from having God ki and some force will reset the timeline to prior to Beerus coming in contact with Goku.
This will NEVER happen. GT is nowhere near as successful as Super so whatever they do Super's stories will be taken into account over GT's. which is what's happening now anyway.
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Re: New series or GT?

Post by precita » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:53 pm

I can't comprehend what is so hard about viewing GT as an alternate timeline like most of the 13 DBZ movies.

It has nothing to do with the main timeline.

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Re: New series or GT?

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:52 pm

I honestly wouldn't mind it if Super retooled some of the ideas from GT, such the Shadow Dragons, Baby and Super Saiyan 4, and incorporated them into a future arc, should Super go beyond EOZ.

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Re: New series or GT?

Post by omaro34 » Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:02 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:I honestly wouldn't mind it if Super retooled some of the ideas from GT, such the Shadow Dragons, Baby and Super Saiyan 4, and incorporated them into a future arc, should Super go beyond EOZ.
It just needs better execution. GT had great ideas but their ideas were poorly implemented.
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Re: New series or GT?

Post by precita » Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:41 pm

The only GT plotline they could re-do is the Shadow Dragons.

Bebi would be rather pointless at this time, and the Super 17 saga was awful. No need to ruin 17 again.

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Re: New series or GT?

Post by Boo Machine » Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:45 pm

I would absolutely love if they wanted to re tackle the Shadow Dragons. Such a great concept. Most of It was so boring the first time around, so if they want to do it over I feel like anything would be a step up.
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Re: New series or GT?

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:40 pm

Low Tone G wrote:How could they justify this time gap of peace with this mass-murdering and actual worlds ceasing to exist?!
The "peace" line was anime-only from the start, so I can forgive it. Although I do agree that staying in this time period is pointless.
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Re: New series or GT?

Post by Nano » Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:37 am

Super will continue as long as the money does. Ratings and merchandize sales is what keeps Super going.

GT had its chance. It flopped in both departments. That's why it only had what it had.

Besides, they're at God levels and multi-verses now. GT stayed in-universe and the SSJ forms were just more Saiyan forms. Whereas Super's are a mix of Saiyan and God Ki. Two completely different paths in transformations.

I just don't see how they could evolve into GT's Saiyan forms from God Ki forms. Or vice versa. Then again, they already retconned, plot holed, wtf'd Super as is so who knows lol
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Re: New series or GT?

Post by Low Tone G » Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:50 am

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Low Tone G wrote:How could they justify this time gap of peace with this mass-murdering and actual worlds ceasing to exist?!
The "peace" line was anime-only from the start, so I can forgive it. Although I do agree that staying in this time period is pointless.
Even if was, it used to be obvious that the time didn't really have any major conflicts, especially not this magnitude like these latest DBS arcs(Future Trunks and the one on-going). They need to move forward and surpass EoZ already...

The real continuation is beyond EoZ we all know that, especially when Goku and Vegeta are still young 'till their 80's.
And the other cast could still remain relevant even if they are beginning to age... Nobody gives a sh*t that Master Roshi is beyond 300 years.
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