Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

[Gashif Aldi]

Plus, Yammamuro's design tend to have buttloads of white stuff. Making it more look like plastic. And plastic is very stiff. And the shading his horrible.

Like look at Suichi Iseki's episode then compared it to the movies. Anyone mind uploading it?

[ArchedThunder]

Great video Ajay, really lays out Yamamuro's decline and recent slow improvement. We can only hope that if he stays in his current role he will improve at a faster rate.

Speaking of supervisors I was looking at the Newtype listings and I was thinking about how the size of the tournament and and how the entire new opening being based entirely around the current arc makes me feel like this is going to be a long arc. I personally feel we could be seeing 40+ episodes, but with a minimum of 35 episodes since I just can't see them having made this new OP focused entirely around the arc and having it air on any less than 35 episodes (not counting in between arc episodes after the arc ends). So I got to thinking, how well would the supervisor staff as it is right now be able to be spread across 35 episodes with a lot of action? So as a fun little thought experiment I decided to make a list (this is not a prediction in the slightest) of how the rotation could work on this next arc while keeping these limitations in mind;

1. No adding any new supervisors or removing any.
2. Most action episodes must have at least 2 supervisors.
3. Give Karasawa preferential treatment.

So this list works off of the (unsafe) assumptions that no supervisors are leaving, no new ones are being added, and Takamura, Lee Joo-Hyun, Noel Ano-Nuevo and Paul Ano-Nuevo will stick around to continue to support episodes. Obviously it's not safe to assume that nobody will leave (at this point I think Takamura might be leaving for Precure), and with Tiger Mask ending ending somewhere around episode 99 of Super it's entirely possible that we'll get some staff from that show and who knows if we'll see any new or returning(like Toma or Yamamuro) supervisors before then as well, but that wasn't the point of the list.

This list also obviously ignores any potential breaks and has two "down time" episodes that would serve as breaks in the action to give everyone (both staff and viewers) a breather from all the action and I tried to give a relatively wide berth between the exhibition matches and the real tournament, without making it too long.
The list starts with episode 81 because I think Newtype's listing for it might be incomplete and I'd just like to reiterate that this is not a prediction list, but a thought experiment for how the current supervisor staff might be able to hand a 35 episode, action heavy arc.

[spoiler]81- Shimanuki (5 weeks, but he may have started the episode before 76 released) + Takamura (13 weeks) fight
82- Karasawa (11 weeks plus he may have started the episode before 72 released)+ Noel Ano-Nuevo(9 weeks) fight
83- Nashizawa (9 weeks)+ Lee Joo-hyun(13 weeks) opening 5-10 minutes are the end of the final exhibition match, rest of the episode is talking and setup
84- Itai (8 weeks) + Paul Ano-Nuevo (8 weeks) team gathering
85- Yashima (8 weeks) team gathering
86- Kitano (8 weeks) birth of Bra and training
87- Ishikawa (9 weeks) training
88- Ono (9 weeks) + Kinoshita (8 weeks) training and arriving at the tournament
89- Tate (10 weeks) + Takamura (8 weeks) first fight of the tournament
90- Manabe (10 weeks) + Noel Ano-Nuevo (8 weeks) fight
91- Shimanuki (10 weeks) + Lee Joo-Hyun(8 weeks) fight
92- Nashizawa (9 weeks) + Paul Ano-Nuevo (8 weeks) fight
93- Yashima (8 weeks) fight
94- Karasawa (12 weeks) fight
95- Itai (11 weeks) + Ishikawa (8 weeks) fight
96- Kitano (10 weeks) down time
97- Ono (9 weeks) + Kinoshita (9 weeks) fight
98- Manabe (8 weeks) + Takamura (9 weeks) fight
99- Shimanuki (8 weeks) + Noel Ano-Nuevo (9 weeks) fight
100- Tate (11 weeks) + Paul Ano-Nuevo (8 weeks) fight
101- Yashima (8 weeks) fight
102- Nashizawa (10 weeks) + Lee Joo-Hyun (11 weeks) fight
103- Itai (8 weeks) + Kitano (8 weeks) fight
104- Ishikawa (8 weeks) down time
105- Ono (8 weeks) + Takamura (8 weeks) fight
106- Manabe (8 weeks) + Kinoshita (9 weeks) fight
107- Shimanuki (8 weeks) Noel Ano-Nuevo (8 weeks)+ Lee Joo-Hyun(5 weeks) fight
108- Karasawa (14 weeks) climax part 1
109- Tate (9 weeks) Paul Ano-Nuevo (9 weeks) climax final part
110- Yashima (9 weeks) end of tournament and what follows
111- Nashizawa (9 weeks) tying up loose ends, end of arc[/spoiler]

It works pretty well, with things only really becoming strained near in the final stretch to make sure that Karasawa gets preferential treatment for a climax episode and it could probably be arranged in a better way than I did. If it ended up something like this we could have a really solid arc, if they are able to actually get the animation staff necessary so people like Karasawa and Tate aren't constantly having to do cuts outside of their episodes. If they could keep the same number of supervisors I used here and throw one or two on top of that then things would probably be pretty nice from start to finish in the tournament proper. If the arc is in fact 35 or more episodes then the end of Tiger Mask around Super episode 99 could really result in the episodes after that seeing some pretty great stuff. Even if they were only able to grab a small amount of the staff, there are a lot of great storyboarders/directors, animation supervisors and animators on that show that Super would massively benefit from.

Making this list made me feel a bit more confident in this arc, things could be a bit shaky in the early going if Takamura leaves and the Ano-Nuevos don't stay on and nobody is there to replace these people right away, but if they can just make sure the first few episodes of the tournament are great they can let the quality slide a bit for a handful of episodes while they grab people as they finish their work on Tiger Mask to start working on episodes in the late 90s and into the 100s. Plus we don't even know when Appli Monsters ends, it could totally end around the same time as well which would potentially open up more staff for Nagamine and Nakamura to grab for the show.

That's a pretty big wall of text I just made there...

[Alee9977]

Maybe they just forgot to put Karasawa in the list and he might be doing 81 with Shimanuki, or NewType is completely wrong with supervisors, something that happened before...

[ArchedThunder]

The talk about Yamamuro made me realize something about these three new Yamamuro designs.
[spoiler][/spoiler]
For the most part the muscle detail here is much simpler than a lot of modern Yamamuro designs, the most complicated area is Bergamo's torso.

[Noah]

So, ArchedThunder you're betting this arc will have something like 34 episodes?

[ArchedThunder]

So, ArchedThunder you're betting this arc will have something like 34 episodes?

In my post I said I think it'll be a minimum of 35, but I'm thinking it'll be more along the lines of 40+

[Noah]

In my post I said I think it'll be a minimum of 35, but I'm thinking it'll be more along the lines of 40+

You think they would stretch that much? It's just a tournament arc and most people think we'll not see everyone fighting besides universe 7.

[ArchedThunder]

In my post I said I think it'll be a minimum of 35, but I'm thinking it'll be more along the lines of 40+

You think they would stretch that much? It's just a tournament arc and most people think we'll not see everyone fighting besides universe 7.

It's still a massive tournament with 10 people on the heroes' side, there's also no saying if the tournament will still be the main plot by the end of the arc. With what could happen, even if it's stays just a tournament all the way to the end, I don't think 35+ episodes would be them stretching it at all. Also even if we don't see every fight (which is very likely) I think we'd still end up seeing some other fights, especially some of Universe 6's fights.
I really don't see any other reason for them to make a completely new opening that is focused entirely on the current arc if they were only going to run it for 1 or 2 cours.

[Gashif Aldi]

But, what if Tiger Mask is already finished? They could grab staff now, and let them do episode 85-ish. I mean Tiger Mask's schedule is way better. I'm just assuming that they've probably already finished it around this month or next month.

[iAnimationLover_]

[spoiler]81- Shimanuki (5 weeks, but he may have started the episode before 76 released) + Takamura (13 weeks) fight
82- Karasawa (11 weeks plus he may have started the episode before 72 released)+ Noel Ano-Nuevo(9 weeks) fight
83- Nashizawa (9 weeks)+ Lee Joo-hyun(13 weeks) opening 5-10 minutes are the end of the final exhibition match, rest of the episode is talking and setup
84- Itai (8 weeks) + Paul Ano-Nuevo (8 weeks) team gathering
85- Yashima (8 weeks) team gathering
86- Kitano (8 weeks) birth of Bra and training
87- Ishikawa (9 weeks) training
88- Ono (9 weeks) + Kinoshita (8 weeks) training and arriving at the tournament
89- Tate (10 weeks) + Takamura (8 weeks) first fight of the tournament
90- Manabe (10 weeks) + Noel Ano-Nuevo (8 weeks) fight
91- Shimanuki (10 weeks) + Lee Joo-Hyun(8 weeks) fight
92- Nashizawa (9 weeks) + Paul Ano-Nuevo (8 weeks) fight
93- Yashima (8 weeks) fight
94- Karasawa (12 weeks) fight
95- Itai (11 weeks) + Ishikawa (8 weeks) fight
96- Kitano (10 weeks) down time
97- Ono (9 weeks) + Kinoshita (9 weeks) fight
98- Manabe (8 weeks) + Takamura (9 weeks) fight
99- Shimanuki (8 weeks) + Noel Ano-Nuevo (9 weeks) fight
100- Tate (11 weeks) + Paul Ano-Nuevo (8 weeks) fight
101- Yashima (8 weeks) fight
102- Nashizawa (10 weeks) + Lee Joo-Hyun (11 weeks) fight
103- Itai (8 weeks) + Kitano (8 weeks) fight
104- Ishikawa (8 weeks) down time
105- Ono (8 weeks) + Takamura (8 weeks) fight
106- Manabe (8 weeks) + Kinoshita (9 weeks) fight
107- Shimanuki (8 weeks) Noel Ano-Nuevo (8 weeks)+ Lee Joo-Hyun(5 weeks) fight
108- Karasawa (14 weeks) climax part 1
109- Tate (9 weeks) Paul Ano-Nuevo (9 weeks) climax final part
110- Yashima (9 weeks) end of tournament and what follows
111- Nashizawa (9 weeks) tying up loose ends, end of arc[/spoiler]

Wow damn, i hope that this is actually the case . But ill keep my expectations low for now.

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But, what if Tiger Mask is already finished? They could grab staff now, and let them do episode 85-ish. I mean Tiger Mask's schedule is way better. I'm just assuming that they've probably already finished it around this month or next month.

How many episodes till its done?

[Gashif Aldi]

[spoiler]81- Shimanuki (5 weeks, but he may have started the episode before 76 released) + Takamura (13 weeks) fight
82- Karasawa (11 weeks plus he may have started the episode before 72 released)+ Noel Ano-Nuevo(9 weeks) fight
83- Nashizawa (9 weeks)+ Lee Joo-hyun(13 weeks) opening 5-10 minutes are the end of the final exhibition match, rest of the episode is talking and setup
84- Itai (8 weeks) + Paul Ano-Nuevo (8 weeks) team gathering
85- Yashima (8 weeks) team gathering
86- Kitano (8 weeks) birth of Bra and training
87- Ishikawa (9 weeks) training
88- Ono (9 weeks) + Kinoshita (8 weeks) training and arriving at the tournament
89- Tate (10 weeks) + Takamura (8 weeks) first fight of the tournament
90- Manabe (10 weeks) + Noel Ano-Nuevo (8 weeks) fight
91- Shimanuki (10 weeks) + Lee Joo-Hyun(8 weeks) fight
92- Nashizawa (9 weeks) + Paul Ano-Nuevo (8 weeks) fight
93- Yashima (8 weeks) fight
94- Karasawa (12 weeks) fight
95- Itai (11 weeks) + Ishikawa (8 weeks) fight
96- Kitano (10 weeks) down time
97- Ono (9 weeks) + Kinoshita (9 weeks) fight
98- Manabe (8 weeks) + Takamura (9 weeks) fight
99- Shimanuki (8 weeks) + Noel Ano-Nuevo (9 weeks) fight
100- Tate (11 weeks) + Paul Ano-Nuevo (8 weeks) fight
101- Yashima (8 weeks) fight
102- Nashizawa (10 weeks) + Lee Joo-Hyun (11 weeks) fight
103- Itai (8 weeks) + Kitano (8 weeks) fight
104- Ishikawa (8 weeks) down time
105- Ono (8 weeks) + Takamura (8 weeks) fight
106- Manabe (8 weeks) + Kinoshita (9 weeks) fight
107- Shimanuki (8 weeks) Noel Ano-Nuevo (8 weeks)+ Lee Joo-Hyun(5 weeks) fight
108- Karasawa (14 weeks) climax part 1
109- Tate (9 weeks) Paul Ano-Nuevo (9 weeks) climax final part
110- Yashima (9 weeks) end of tournament and what follows
111- Nashizawa (9 weeks) tying up loose ends, end of arc[/spoiler]

Wow damn, i hope that this is actually the case . But ill keep my expectations low for now.

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But, what if Tiger Mask is already finished? They could grab staff now, and let them do episode 85-ish. I mean Tiger Mask's schedule is way better. I'm just assuming that they've probably already finished it around this month or next month.

How many episodes till its done?

It's episode 17 now. Maybe it'll end around episode 36?

Well, I remember someone said that it's gonna end in June 2017. But, maybe... Just maybe if Tiger Mask W production is THAT good.

EDIT: How many episodes are there in Future Trunks arc?

[BakaManiaHD]

I found this on a facebook page, a leak of episode 79. Sorry for the horrible quality
[spoiler][/spoiler]

[Gashif Aldi]

I found this on a facebook page, a leak of episode 79. Sorry for the horrible quality
[spoiler][/spoiler]

Gohan... With his glasses. Tf.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Wait...Yamamuro didn't design SSGSS Vegetto but he still drew him in that magazine spread? How does that make any sense lol.

I found this on a facebook page, a leak of episode 79. Sorry for the horrible quality
[spoiler][/spoiler]

Gohan... With his glasses. Tf.

Lmao that actually looks pretty hilarious

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Wait...Yamamuro didn't design SSGSS Vegetto but he still drew him in that magazine spread? How does that make any sense lol.

It makes sense because he does most of the promotional art. That's been the case for a long time now.

[SansrivaaL]

I found this on a facebook page, a leak of episode 79. Sorry for the horrible quality
[spoiler][/spoiler]

If this turns out to be legit I'm surprised Satan's with them, guess he wants to be with Boo that much or just wanted to tag along and watch.
Also Gohan gi with glasses

[Gashif Aldi]

I have a feeling that the fans are gonna criticize this a lot.

But, I have a feeling that glasses is a part of Nagamine's and Nakamura's direction. Btw, looking at this horrible resolution image. Any ideas if it fits with the NewType?
Looks like Ishikawa to me. Or maybe Tsuji?

I'm more surprised that there's a leak 2 episodes ahead of us.

[iAnimationLover_]

Or maybe Tsuji?

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Nope, Tsuji only supervises episodes with even numbers (Like 2 4 6 8 and so on)

[kinisking]

I have a feeling that the fans are gonna criticize this a lot.

But, I have a feeling that glasses is a part of Nagamine's and Nakamura's direction. Btw, looking at this horrible resolution image. Any ideas if it fits with the NewType?
Looks like Ishikawa to me. Or maybe Tsuji?

I'm more surprised that there's a leak 2 episodes ahead of us.

Nah, Gohan's going to be taking the glasses off when he fights like always. Why is anyone surprised ? He wore glasses with his gi in GT.

[emperior]

Nobody posted it yet, here's the new opening without credits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHT91VrbOsM