"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[kinisking]

Who cares about Vegeta and Piccolo's roles during the Boo saga ? Overall they are relevant and strong characters. The fans aren't going to suddenly forget about their roles in the cell saga and before just because of that. Plus, some of Vegeta's best moments were in the Boo saga. The only weird one in this situation is Gohan. You can't just say it has absolutely no factor when the most popular characters tend to be more relevant and stronger. Just because there are some outliers doesn't mean anything.

When was the last time Piccolo was relevant? And guess what, he's still in the top 5. And I named more than a few 'outliers', including Gohan who still manages to be in the top 3 despite having almost no presence since Dragon Ball's revival.

Piccolo was still extremely relevant in the Saiyan, Freeza, and cell saga. He even had two arcs that were about him. Even in the arcs where he isn't relevant like Boo, he still was in the top 6 when it comes to screen time. People aren't going to suddenly forget that when choosing their favorite character.

Same with Gohan, he had such a huge role in DBZ and people won't suddenly forget that either. Especially when people associate DBZ with their idea of Dragonball much more than DBGT or DB Super.

Overall Piccolo and Gohan are still in the top 5 when it comes to relevance and power in Dragonball among the heroes and it shows in their popularity. The time of polling isn't the only time that matters.

Yes, there are other factors. But when there's a general trend that if someone's more relevant and stronger, then that too is a factor. You can't just say it isn't because it doesn't have exceptions. You can't find any factor that doesn't have some exceptions because they're more than one factor.

[HeroR]

Piccolo was still extremely relevant in the Saiyan, Freeza, and cell saga. He even had two arcs that were about him. Even in the arcs where he isn't relevant like Boo, he still was in the top 6 when it comes to screen time. People aren't going to suddenly forget that when choosing their favorite character.

Same with Gohan, he had such a huge role in DBZ and people won't suddenly forget that either. Especially when people associate DBZ with their idea of Dragonball much more than DBGT or DB Super.

Overall Piccolo and Gohan are still in the top 5 when it comes to relevance and power in Dragonball among the heroes and it shows in their popularity. The time of polling isn't the only time that matters.

Yes, there are other factors. But when there's a general trend that if someone's more relevant and stronger, then that too is a factor. You can't just say it isn't because it doesn't have exceptions. You can't find any factor that doesn't have some exceptions because they're more than one factor.

That was then, this is now. Roshi was important too all the way to the end of Dragon Ball where he dropped off the map, yet he still surpassed Yamcha and Tien who has more scenes than him and Tien was one of Goku's rivals.

Again, when was the last time Piccolo was relevant since 2008?

[Ki Breaker]

Didn't see this posted, so there you go, episode 79 thumbnail

[kinisking]

Piccolo was still extremely relevant in the Saiyan, Freeza, and cell saga. He even had two arcs that were about him. Even in the arcs where he isn't relevant like Boo, he still was in the top 6 when it comes to screen time. People aren't going to suddenly forget that when choosing their favorite character.

Same with Gohan, he had such a huge role in DBZ and people won't suddenly forget that either. Especially when people associate DBZ with their idea of Dragonball much more than DBGT or DB Super.

Overall Piccolo and Gohan are still in the top 5 when it comes to relevance and power in Dragonball among the heroes and it shows in their popularity. The time of polling isn't the only time that matters.

Yes, there are other factors. But when there's a general trend that if someone's more relevant and stronger, then that too is a factor. You can't just say it isn't because it doesn't have exceptions. You can't find any factor that doesn't have some exceptions because they're more than one factor.

That was then, this is now. Roshi was important too all the way to the end of Dragon Ball where he dropped off the map, yet he still surpassed Yamcha and Tien who has more scenes than him and Tien was one of Goku's rivals.

Again, when was the last time Piccolo was relevant since 2008?

Did you read what I said ? They'res going to be exceptions. It's not the only factor. But it IS a factor.

Piccolo was still relevant in DBZ and people usually base off their favorite characters off of that ( or Dragonball ) because that's what they're most familiar with.

[SansrivaaL]

Didn't see this posted, so there you go, episode 79 thumbnail

It was posted, but in a different thread, in the animation catalogue 2.0.
I still dont like Gohan in his dad's gi, these are 1 of the times where I wish he forgot his gi again and went with another get up.

[namekiansaiyan]

Didn't see this posted, so there you go, episode 79 thumbnail

Nerds will always be nerds and Gohan is keeping this tradition up.

Where are they as that does not look like the arena?.

[Noah]

Didn't see this posted, so there you go, episode 79 thumbnail

I know Gohan has vision problems, but could they stop forcing him using his glasses all the time? With his gi looks ridiculous, why with the technology they have in DB, Gohan can not just use lens of whatever?

[HeroR]

Did you read what I said ? They'res going to be exceptions. It's not the only factor. But it IS a factor.

Piccolo was still relevant in DBZ and people usually base off their favorite characters off of that ( or Dragonball ) because that's what they're most familiar with.

If I can named half a dozen characters that doesn't fall into your definition of things, they are not exceptions. Even if you give a character a lot of scene time and and power, doesn't mean they're going to be popular. The same whole true for any popular media.

We're talking about now. Dragon Ball Z is in the past. Besides, if the whole thing about 'people usually base off their favorite characters off of that ( or Dragonball ) because that's what they're most familiar with', Yamcha, Tien, Bulma, and even Puar would be far more popular and we wouldn't have Mr. Satan sitting at #11 or Trunks who was only around for one story arc where he wasn't even the primary focus sitting at #4 even years after he left.

[IGhostUlt]

Gt gohan flashbacks noooo

[Ki Breaker]

It was posted, but in a different thread, in the animation catalogue 2.0.
I still dont like Gohan in his dad's gi, these are 1 of the times where I wish he forgot his gi again and went with another get up.

I have seen this happen more than once, no idea why sometimes these aren't posted in this thread but the animation one instead

I know Gohan has vision problems, but could they stop forcing him using his glasses all the time? With his gi looks ridiculous, why with the technology they have in DB, Gohan can not just use lens of whatever?

Gohan apparently has vision problems when totally powered down, any form of powerup he does he removes the glasses and mostly fights without it..
I will agree herr though, glasses with his father's gi looks ridiculous

[King Jacku]

Well, looks like Gohan can't see very well without those glasses anymore lol. I don't blame him, the guy does a shit ton of reading! In all seriousness though, why would the animators give him glasses? Even Yamamuro's design sheets have him without it.

At least we'll get some awesome "shit gets serious" moments where he takes them off like in RoF

[SansrivaaL]

Didn't see this posted, so there you go, episode 79 thumbnail

I know Gohan has vision problems, but could they stop forcing him using his glasses all the time? With his gi looks ridiculous, why with the technology they have in DB, Gohan can not just use lens of whatever?

They can always go with making him wear contact lenses, but it seems they're into having Gohan look the part of a scholar in training.

[kinisking]

Did you read what I said ? They'res going to be exceptions. It's not the only factor. But it IS a factor.

Piccolo was still relevant in DBZ and people usually base off their favorite characters off of that ( or Dragonball ) because that's what they're most familiar with.

If I can named half a dozen characters that doesn't fall into your definition of things, they are not exceptions. Even if you give a character a lot of scene time and and power, doesn't mean they're going to be popular. The same whole true for any popular media.

We're talking about now. Dragon Ball Z is in the past. Besides, if the whole thing about 'people usually base off their favorite characters off of that ( or Dragonball ) because that's what they're most familiar with', Yamcha, Tien, Bulma, and even Puar would be far more popular and we wouldn't have Mr. Satan sitting at #11 or Trunks who was only around for one story arc where he wasn't even the primary focus sitting at #4 even years after he left.

If I was saying it was a sole factor, you'd have a point. However you can't say it's not a factor. If I calculated the correlation coefficient or did a chi squared test I can guarantee it's a factor. It's no coincidence that the most popular characters are fighters . It's no coincidence that they also tend to be relevant characters .

Last time I checked Mr Satan was part of the original continuity that were familiar with. He's also more relevant than Puar was. Trunks was also extremely strong and relevant in the arc that he was in.

Like I said, it's not the only factor so of course not everything's going to fall into a simple line. Character personalities , character moral alignment , Character moments , strength, design, and relevance are all factors. You can just deny it's a factor because everything doesn't fall into a perfect line reflecting it. There are other factors too like I've been saying. HOWEVER, it's still a factor.

Also why is everyone so bothered about the glasses ? He's still a scholar, he's not going to just stop wearing them. He can take them off at any time, just like in GT, RoF, and BOG. This comes form someone who doesn't really like the glasses.

[HeroR]

If I was saying it was a sole factor, you'd have a point. However you can't say it's not a factor. If I calculated the correlation coefficient or did a chi squared test I can guarantee it's a factor. It's no coincidence that the most popular characters are fighters . It's no coincidence that they also tend to be relevant characters .

Last time I checked Mr Satan was part of the original continuity that were familiar with. He's also more relevant than Puar was. Trunks was also extremely strong and relevant in the arc that he was in.

Like I said, it's not the only factor so of course not everything's going to fall into a simple line. Character personalities , character moral alignment , Character moments , strength, design, and relevance are all factors. You can just deny it's a factor because everything doesn't fall into a perfect line reflecting it. There are other factors too like I've been saying. HOWEVER, it's still a factor.

Also why is everyone so bothered about the glasses ? He's still a scholar, he's not going to just stop wearing them. He can take them off at any time, just like in GT, RoF, and BOG. This comes form someone who doesn't really like the glasses.

You're guessing how much a factor power and screen time is, and I have shown you that power and screen time matter very little.

Trunks was relevant for one story arc and just barely since he fell off the map completely during the Cell Games where the only thing of note he did was die. He didn't get the spotlight back until he went into his own time. Even then, Trunks was relevant for one fight for the entire saga. At least Piccolo got three with Cell, the androids, and then Cell again.

No, you claimed that characters became less popular because they don't get scene time anymore or they're not powerful. You didn't say anything about character moral alignment , character moments , strength, design, and relevance are all factors. Btw, moral alignment has almost no place in a popular poll either.

[incarnati0n]

Didn't see this posted, so there you go, episode 79 thumbnail

I'm a bit disappointed that Gohan got his gi back before training.

Also, the glasses look so ridiculous but I think that is more because of them being yellow than anything else. He wore them in GT in a different colour and while I still don't like him wearing them with his Gi it wasn't as bad as here.

[perucho1990]

Didn't see this posted, so there you go, episode 79 thumbnail

Did something happen to Mr Satan? His clothes look a bit shredded, maybe Buu wins his fight because Basil attacked Mr Satan?

[kinisking]

If I was saying it was a sole factor, you'd have a point. However you can't say it's not a factor. If I calculated the correlation coefficient or did a chi squared test I can guarantee it's a factor. It's no coincidence that the most popular characters are fighters . It's no coincidence that they also tend to be relevant characters .

Last time I checked Mr Satan was part of the original continuity that were familiar with. He's also more relevant than Puar was. Trunks was also extremely strong and relevant in the arc that he was in.

Like I said, it's not the only factor so of course not everything's going to fall into a simple line. Character personalities , character moral alignment , Character moments , strength, design, and relevance are all factors. You can just deny it's a factor because everything doesn't fall into a perfect line reflecting it. There are other factors too like I've been saying. HOWEVER, it's still a factor.

Also why is everyone so bothered about the glasses ? He's still a scholar, he's not going to just stop wearing them. He can take them off at any time, just like in GT, RoF, and BOG. This comes form someone who doesn't really like the glasses.

You're guessing how much a factor power and screen time is, and I have shown you that power and screen time matter very little.

Trunks was relevant for one story arc and just barely since he fell off the map completely during the Cell Games where the only thing of note he did was die. He didn't get the spotlight back until he went into his own time. Even then, Trunks was relevant for one fight for the entire saga. At least Piccolo got three with Cell, the androids, and then Cell again.

No, you claimed that characters became less popular because they don't get scene time anymore or they're not powerful. You didn't say anything about character moral alignment , character moments , strength, design, and relevance are all factors. Btw, moral alignment has almost no place in a popular poll either[/i].

I never said that. And yes it does, the villians are all extremely popular but people tend to not have them as their favorite characters as much.

[namekiansaiyan]

Didn't see this posted, so there you go, episode 79 thumbnail

Did something happen to Mr Satan? His clothes look a bit shredded, maybe Buu wins his fight because Basil attacked Mr Satan?

I don't want that to be the reason he Buu wins. Can they just have him win by being better and nothing else.

[Kagari]

http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/chara/#chapter4

Toei site updated with Universe 9 characters, including the bearded God.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Honestly I am kind of digging the look now! Makes him more unique while wearing that Gi. He's obviously gonna take them off when fighting but I hope he keeps them on.