I perfectly understand it. Though I'm more interested with how "shine" is being used (depends on the particular fan). I mean many people want to see other characters do something interesting, rather than struggling just to make an appearance. People want to see other non Goku/Vegeta characters get good fights. I can completely understand and agree with this stuff, I'd like to see other characters do important things. However, some fans may take it a step further and start saying stuff like "Goku is always the one to defeat the villain", a complaint that surfaced during Z even though Z is when Goku starting losing more often, or the complaints about Vegeta "always getting treated terribly." In the latter's case, Vegeta fans imo don't have much room to complain. Stuff like this I don't support since these statements are false. Regardless, it isn't hard to see why people want characters to "shine". Many aren't even asking for the characters to "save the day" but be able to get good moments. This tournament could potentially provide that.HeroR wrote:I will personally never understand the fandom's obsession with shine.Lord Frieza wrote:I'm with you, I want everyone to have a good fight, not just the main caste but also the new fighters. Everyone deserves to get a good showing. I don't mind to much who wins and looses as long as the fights are good with as little jobbing as possible.TekTheNinja wrote:You know I really don't know who deserves to shine most in this tournament. Everyone here besides Goku and Vegeta need some form of redemption but it's nearly impossible for them all to get their chance here.
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You'd understand if you lived in a world where Goku always jobs and Vegeta always does well.HeroR wrote:I will personally never understand the fandom's obsession with shine.Lord Frieza wrote:I'm with you, I want everyone to have a good fight, not just the main caste but also the new fighters. Everyone deserves to get a good showing. I don't mind to much who wins and looses as long as the fights are good with as little jobbing as possible.TekTheNinja wrote:You know I really don't know who deserves to shine most in this tournament. Everyone here besides Goku and Vegeta need some form of redemption but it's nearly impossible for them all to get their chance here.
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Beyond wrote:^Buu beats all 3. Goku and Gohan don't get to fight. Make it happen toei.
That would be amazing! But we still need a confirmation if killing is allowing in this tournament, I can see Boo turning them into candy, but didn't Mr. Satan taught him to not do that with people anymore?
Don't forget about the Pastel de Belémomegalucas wrote:I kinda hope the guy who looks like a fish in the opening will be named Pōto (from Port wine), cuz Portugal is kinda known for Port wine and codfish xD
Yeah and more exactly his defeat being used as motivation for he train harder as they need to be at their peak in this tournament.TheMathemagician wrote:You'll lose hope in a saga because of the possibility of Gohan losing to a character who has a design you don't like?precita wrote:If Gohan really lose to a bunch of fleabag mutts I'll already lose all hope in this arc. A bunch of mangy flea-ridden mutts who look like they belong back in the pet shop taking down Gohan would be a slap in the face to fans. Someone needs to put these dogs down and back in the kennel where they belong.
I'm not a Vegeta fan, but god how this old trope is annoying, I really hope to not get this same thing for the seventh time, but I would be not surprisednamekiansaiyan wrote:Vegeta fans seem to forget that he must lose to the new strongest person of the arc.
Nah, I like that he's evil but in a different matter than FreezaHellspawn28 wrote:Do you guys think Frost will be a good guy now or still a bad guy? I think Frost becoming good would be cool. It's not too late for him to change his ways.
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Wow a world without Vegeta jobbing would suckkinisking wrote:You'd understand if you lived in a world where Goku always jobs and Vegeta always does well.HeroR wrote:I will personally never understand the fandom's obsession with shine.Lord Frieza wrote:
I'm with you, I want everyone to have a good fight, not just the main caste but also the new fighters. Everyone deserves to get a good showing. I don't mind to much who wins and looses as long as the fights are good with as little jobbing as possible.
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I don't see the problem everyone just wants their favorites to do well instead of just jobbing and barely get an appearance in the series.HeroR wrote:I will personally never understand the fandom's obsession with shine.Lord Frieza wrote:I'm with you, I want everyone to have a good fight, not just the main caste but also the new fighters. Everyone deserves to get a good showing. I don't mind to much who wins and looses as long as the fights are good with as little jobbing as possible.TekTheNinja wrote:You know I really don't know who deserves to shine most in this tournament. Everyone here besides Goku and Vegeta need some form of redemption but it's nearly impossible for them all to get their chance here.
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Why would I care if Goku jobs? Some of my favorite Goku moments is when he get humiliated like him being taking out by laser despite all his power.kinisking wrote: You'd understand if you lived in a world where Goku always jobs and Vegeta always does well.
Unlike most, I am not obsessed with characters getting 'W'.
One of my favorite characters is Krillin and I like him because he often get humiliated, especially in the original Dragon Ball. Goku calling Puar and Upa stronger than Krillin was hilarious.pacz360 wrote: I don't see the problem everyone just wants their favorites to do well instead of just jobbing and barely get an appearance in the series.
I find more joy seeing my favorite character in pain then I do them getting 'shine'.
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dbzfan7 wrote:Crazy theory time.
"What if this is an elaborate way to make everything fit with the end of Z. All other universes are wiped out, Goku and Vegeta lose their god obtained powers, Beerus naps for years like he is supposed to, and they maybe or not mind erase them.........ooooooh Guys don't actually take this way too seriously.
My thoughts exactly!
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So I don't get it, if a character loses a match does that mean they're out of the tournament for good? Pretty much all previous Dragonball tournaments played out that way, where you lose once and you're done. One exception was when Goku lost to Frost and was let back in because he was poisoned.
If Gohan loses this match does that mean he's done for the entire tournament?
If Gohan loses this match does that mean he's done for the entire tournament?
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If poisoning is allowed then he is out of the entire practice tournament, but will be back for the real thing..precita wrote:So I don't get it, if a character loses a match does that mean they're out of the tournament for good? Pretty much all previous Dragonball tournaments played out that way, where you lose once and you're done. One exception was when Goku lost to Frost and was let back in because he was poisoned.
If Gohan loses this match does that mean he's done for the entire tournament?
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Just throwing this idea out there...what guys in black and red are all candidates for becoming gods of destruction?
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I knew the dwarf was going to have some type of relevance. Not only his design was revealed way too soon, but he didn't appear in the opening preview. It's so evident that U9 is going to lose...I wonder what will he do then. I would say he could start some type of rebellion (in the opening the Hakaishins are divided into 2 groups...) but since he's supposed to be too undecisive, I suppose it's impossible.
That's actually a really interesting guess. It didn't make sense for an universe to have such a broken an sonsesical team (the alien dude is definetly a hell strong, Brolyne should be in U6, and Beerus' race one should be in U6 as well, trough in his/her case maybe the race itself originates from another universe).Lord Frieza wrote:Just throwing this idea out there...what guys in black and red are all candidates for becoming gods of destruction?
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I think your only out if your universe loses.Ki Breaker wrote:If poisoning is allowed then he is out of the entire practice tournament, but will be back for the real thing..precita wrote:So I don't get it, if a character loses a match does that mean they're out of the tournament for good? Pretty much all previous Dragonball tournaments played out that way, where you lose once and you're done. One exception was when Goku lost to Frost and was let back in because he was poisoned.
If Gohan loses this match does that mean he's done for the entire tournament?
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Well we don't know all the rules yet but if a guy who is identified as a poison user is allowed in then killing might be allowed. I'm all for that.
Also the "no monsters" rule must not be used here as Buu and a rampaging fembroly are allowed in.
Also the "no monsters" rule must not be used here as Buu and a rampaging fembroly are allowed in.
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But she's no monster, she's... A DEVIL!Lord Frieza wrote:
Also the "no monsters" rule must not be used here as Buu and a rampaging fembroly are allowed in.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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That was Vegeta's stupid thing he's not involved here.Lord Frieza wrote:Well we don't know all the rules yet but if a guy who is identified as a poison user is allowed in then killing might be allowed. I'm all for that.
Also the "no monsters" rule must not be used here as Buu and a rampaging fembroly are allowed in.
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What is that to a GODKanassa wrote:But she's no monster, she's... A DEVIL!Lord Frieza wrote:
Also the "no monsters" rule must not be used here as Buu and a rampaging fembroly are allowed in.
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What if this tournament turns out to be a hunt for the (Super) Dragonballs and a Universe has to get all of them. Universes in which their fighters all have lost are destroyed. So there are some possibilites. They could wait for other universes to bring the Dragonballs and snatch them away or go for an active hunt for other participants. Doesn't matter to much to me as long as it has good fights and an average+ plot. And I would really like to see Boo absorbing some guys to get stronger and smarter. And Bulma could upgrade the androids to give them some more beef. Tenshinhan was training all the time I hope he developed some new great techniques. For Piccolo I wish they pickup the Namekian Book of Legends. An announcement of an OVA which introduces/gives an overview of the other universes and characters would be need.
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That wasn't stupid at all. He didn't want U6 to bring someone like Kid Buu who doesn't understand the rules and will randomly kill people. Not his fault that Buu is dumb and lazy. The test wasn't even that hard since you can pass with just 50% and Goku passed it and he's book dumb.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:That was Vegeta's stupid thing he's not involved here.Lord Frieza wrote:Well we don't know all the rules yet but if a guy who is identified as a poison user is allowed in then killing might be allowed. I'm all for that.
Also the "no monsters" rule must not be used here as Buu and a rampaging fembroly are allowed in.
Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
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Hang on a sec....if Sidra is indecisive....how the bloody hell did he ever decide to become a god of destruction? 
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Out verse that whole thing was poor writing so we would get a gag via Buu. The fact no one in U6 failed just showed that besides in verse Vegeta should know Buu would fail.HeroR wrote:That wasn't stupid at all. He didn't want U6 to bring someone like Kid Buu who doesn't understand the rules and will randomly kill people. Not his fault that Buu is dumb and lazy. The test wasn't even that hard since you can pass with just 50% and Goku passed it and he's book dumb.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:That was Vegeta's stupid thing he's not involved here.Lord Frieza wrote:Well we don't know all the rules yet but if a guy who is identified as a poison user is allowed in then killing might be allowed. I'm all for that.
Also the "no monsters" rule must not be used here as Buu and a rampaging fembroly are allowed in.





