Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by iAnimationLover_ » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:03 pm

Doctor. wrote:
iAnimationLover_ wrote:Can you show me a comparison? xd
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There's a bit of a difference regarding the ear shape and the nose, the hair a bit too, but I think the general head shape and eyes, along with the position of the ears, are almost identical.

Sorry for replying a bit late, i was a bit busy :lol:

I see your point, but i dont think i'd want Tsuji as the Character designer, its too round for me.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:04 pm

Ajay wrote:Episode 77
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Always love that Miyuki Yokoyama shots. Her work seems to be more interesting than Tsuji's.
Still not fan of Takeo Ide.
iAnimationLover_ wrote:A question here (A rather simple one at that xD)

Who would you rather replace Yamamuro as Character designer and animation director? Only pick from these below:

[spoiler]-Takeo Ide

-Miyako Tsuji

-Yuichi Karasawa

-Shuichiro Manabe

-Naoki Tate

-Masahiro Shimanuki

-Osamu Ishikawa

-Futoshi Higashide[/spoiler]
Only pick one :P and also add a reason as to why you want the guy (who you chose) to replace him
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by SaiyanGod117 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:06 pm

Did Ishikawa work on Episode 66?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by KameNinja45 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:07 pm

How would Shimanuki work as a character designer?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:12 pm

KameNinja45 wrote:How would Shimanuki work as a character designer?
At this point, he'd probably be the most meh thing ever. Nothing impressive, but not particularly terrible.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by Doctor. » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:20 pm

iAnimationLover_ wrote:
Doctor. wrote:
iAnimationLover_ wrote:Can you show me a comparison? xd
[spoiler]Image

Image

Image[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Image

Image[/spoiler]

There's a bit of a difference regarding the ear shape and the nose, the hair a bit too, but I think the general head shape and eyes, along with the position of the ears, are almost identical.

Sorry for replying a bit late, i was a bit busy :lol:

I see your point, but i dont think i'd want Tsuji as the Character designer, its too round for me.
She already did some designs for Super, I think. Vegetto Blue, was it?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:21 pm

Doctor. wrote:She already did some designs for Super, I think. Vegetto Blue, was it?
I believe Vegetto was a Tsuji design corrected by Yamamuro. It's been a while, though, my memory isn't the best.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:30 pm

Sodhi wrote:According to aers on Twitter DBS is no longer on Newtype anymore. Only on Animage now. I don't know if the leak time would be affected or not though.
Animage? Never heard of it. Did the info this month come from Newtype or Animage?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by kinisking » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:36 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
Sodhi wrote:According to aers on Twitter DBS is no longer on Newtype anymore. Only on Animage now. I don't know if the leak time would be affected or not though.
Animage? Never heard of it. Did the info this month come from Newtype or Animage?
New type I think. I'm pretty sure animage is the magazine that gave us the poster for this arc along with the character descriptions ( the one that said krillin was the strongest earthling and u7 represents Goku's fighting history).
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by Ajay » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:51 pm

Doctor. wrote:She already did some designs for Super, I think. Vegetto Blue, was it?
Yup!

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

I can't remember what we said initially, but looking at it now, it seems like it's just Tsuji, though definitely referencing other Yamamuro designs in places - the very bottom head's eyebrows seem uncharacteristic for Tsuji, though the nose, ear, and neck are very much her.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 76

Post by A Man named RJ » Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:59 pm

Cursemark505 wrote:
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Cursemark505 wrote:But this is a completely subjective issue.
You make not personally like what has been done, but that doesn't make it inherently bad.
Crushed blacks are an objectively bad thing for picture quality, there's literally no room for debate there.
Objectivity does not exist in this situation.
It's pure arrogance to claim that objectivity exists in art.
Whether people think the filter is too much in certain places, and whether people like or dislike the filter period is all opinion based.
a very late reply (been busy animating a bohemoth of a short) but I must say: there may not be "objectivity" but as Anime snob comments, there are gold standards, otherwise things like the QUALITY van could never be called bad. or if you want live action examples, Birdemic, and The Room. You cant just say "it's art there is no bad" the filter while it may look alright to some, is very overdone and cheap. it obliterates all image quality to be had and fails to fascilitate on new colors.

That's because this isn't art anymore, this is technical. There are a lot of technical rules to follow from the rule of thirds, to the 180 degree rule. and while theyse can be broken, there has to be a strong understanding of what to break, otherwise the patch job is very noticeable. It's not arrogant to say that we're much more aware of the technical aspects behind these things than most people - seriously how many people still think Naoki tate "cant draw" , or call stills "animation", or say stuff like "MOVIE QUALITY ANIMATION" from a screenshot. Take a look at the PVs on YouTube, they're filled to the brim with that stuff, and none of the scenes in the PVs really move that much. meanwhile people in these forums discuss directors, their styles, corrections, the staff behind it all, etc.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:19 pm

kinisking wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:
Sodhi wrote:According to aers on Twitter DBS is no longer on Newtype anymore. Only on Animage now. I don't know if the leak time would be affected or not though.
Animage? Never heard of it. Did the info this month come from Newtype or Animage?
New type I think. I'm pretty sure animage is the magazine that gave us the poster for this arc along with the character descriptions ( the one that said krillin was the strongest earthling and u7 represents Goku's fighting history).
I'm pretty sure that was Animedia.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by kinisking » Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:22 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
kinisking wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote: Animage? Never heard of it. Did the info this month come from Newtype or Animage?
New type I think. I'm pretty sure animage is the magazine that gave us the poster for this arc along with the character descriptions ( the one that said krillin was the strongest earthling and u7 represents Goku's fighting history).
I'm pretty sure that was Animedia.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by Psykomatik » Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:12 pm

It's not over (242 KA as of episode 51), but for those who are interrested, i did like Ajay told me. Unfortunately, some times, i didn't get information about the studio...

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by Sodhi » Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:13 pm

Animage is another magazine like newtype. We got our spoiler this month from animage magazine.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:54 pm

I'm really interested in seeing the NEP today, hopefully Buu's simple design and Basil's relatively simple design lets Tate go ham.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by Psykomatik » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:25 pm

I'm excited too. Plus, he's gonna be with Takeo Ide, so his work won't be corrected that much.
And more, he will probably have Wanpack with him, if Ono is really with them. Already wan't wait, i hope it will surpass episode 38, which is his best one as of today according to me.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by neolux » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:30 pm

I'm in the minority here. I'm not that excited for today's episode knowing that Kitano supervised it. I hope his presence is not strongly felt and that other key animators do a great job! I'm excited for the NEP tho.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by Sodhi » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:32 pm

You're not the minorty here :). The people who posted above, and me are excited for the the NEP.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by neolux » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:38 pm

Sodhi wrote:You're not the minorty here :). The people who posted above, and me are excited for the the NEP.
Then I'm glad I'm not in the minority :D :lol: :lol:

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