"Dragon Ball Super" Bang Zoom Dub Official Discussion Thread

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Beerus is still off to me, decent in serious stuff but the goofy scene with Gotenks was pretty bad have no idea what they were thinking for that.

[NitroEX]

Beerus is still off to me, decent in serious stuff but the goofy scene with Gotenks was pretty bad have no idea what they were thinking for that.

What was so bad about it? Seemed okay to me. Not amazing but not horrible either like you're implying.

So far it seems as though many of the arguments against this Beerus simply boil down to; it doesn't sound like Jason Douglas.
If you prefer Jason Douglas portrayal that's perfectly fine, I can even see why that would be the case, but to call this voice bad just for being different (especially when one of this dub's biggest criticisms has been the many sound alike castings) is baffling to me.

[hulkedoutdude]

More importantly what do you guys think of beerus voice now??
For serious episodes like this one I think archie's voice really really works well, i pretty much like his take now! Some dialogs are pretty stiff i can say but overall after listening beerus for this many episodes I feel like this is a pretty good and different take which actually works(well at least for me)!!

It's ok, definetily better than before. He used toremind of a voice from the Speedy dub but he's a lot better now, however there are some dub voices for Beerus (not just english) that are a lot better than him.

The voice is just perfect but his godly well mannered tone doesn't always work especially for character like beerus after this arc... He really needs change in direction a little, it was evident through some scenes that DeMita can handle beeres the way Yamadera does but whoever directing this is too much adamant on this approach for beerus! I really hope they correct this by next arc starts it's not too late because after this arc it's too hard to take beerus serious and this tone won't work well!!

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

I'm sorry, this dub really has some awesome talent in it but half the cast, the direction, the audio mixing, the script and everything else is just so low quality and cheap. Kaiji worked with the likely bad direction he was given for the "My Bulma" scene but the script felt too awkward and clunky and the mixing left a lot to be desired. I know you could just say "watch the FUNi dub" but that doesn't excuse this dub for it's poor quality. It doesn't accomplish anything other than giving a more accurate take on King Kai's voice but even then, he doesn't emote very well

[Ajay]

What on earth is going on with the mixing?! You'd think there were missing effects if you didn't have your volume turned right up.

Comparison:

Makes what is actually quite a decent performance by Kaiji Tang sound especially awkward. What a shame.

[Doctor.]

So far it seems as though many of the arguments against this Beerus simply boil down to; it doesn't sound like Jason Douglas.
If you prefer Jason Douglas portrayal that's perfectly fine, I can even see why that would be the case, but to call this voice bad just for being different (especially when one of this dub's biggest criticisms has been the many sound alike castings) is baffling to me.

I don't like Jason Douglas either.

This Beerus is awful because he's one-note. He can't emote, the script is bad and the voice doesn't fit the character.

[hulkedoutdude]

What on earth is going on with the mixing?! You'd think there were missing effects if you didn't have your volume turned right up.

Comparison:

Makes what is actually quite a decent performance by Kaiji Tang sound especially awkward. What a shame.

Could it be a problem with guy who is recoding from TV?? He did mention that audio is plain sterio not even dual channel, audio seem to have little disturbance some times too.. do your think this problem is from his side??

[Jinzoningen MULE]

What on earth is going on with the mixing?! You'd think there were missing effects if you didn't have your volume turned right up.

Comparison:

Makes what is actually quite a decent performance by Kaiji Tang sound especially awkward. What a shame.

Could it be a problem with guy who is recoding from TV?? He did mention that audio is plain sterio not even dual channel, audio seem to have little disturbance some times too.. do your think this problem is from his side??

It's 100% a problem with the source, it's only a basic stereo track after all. Whoever's mixing this is either rushed or has no idea what he's doing

[NitroEX]

This Beerus is awful because he's one-note. He can't emote,

That seems like an exaggeration. You can hear a variety of emotions in the Gotenks scene alone. Even during the later scene where he dominates Vegeta, there are low villainous tones being used. He's definitely acting.

the script is bad

I'll give you that.

and the voice doesn't fit the character.

Debatable. I find the voice suitable for the character design of Beerus so I don't think he's miscast, his voice gives off a sense of grandeur which is appropriate for a God. As for the personality, it does sounds more pompous than lackadaisical which, I could see being a problem for some but, as a separate English portrayal of the character I have no problem with it. At the end of the day he's not choosing to copy Jason Douglas and that's a good thing.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Beerus is still off to me, decent in serious stuff but the goofy scene with Gotenks was pretty bad have no idea what they were thinking for that.

What was so bad about it? Seemed okay to me. Not amazing but not horrible either like you're implying.

So far it seems as though many of the arguments against this Beerus simply boil down to; it doesn't sound like Jason Douglas.
If you prefer Jason Douglas portrayal that's perfectly fine, I can even see why that would be the case, but to call this voice bad just for being different (especially when one of this dub's biggest criticisms has been the many sound alike castings) is baffling to me.

Not once did I mention Douglas in my post like at all... I don't know how it is baffling if I didn't mention it. The voice just does not fit Beerus at all and what they (BZ) decided to do in that scene where he was talking about to Gotenks, those voices they used was pretty "cringe" if I were to label it, that probably wasn't his fault but it come out of Beerus at the end of the day.

[NitroEX]

Not once did I mention Douglas in my post like at all... I don't know how it is baffling if I didn't mention it. The voice just does not fit Beerus at all and what they (BZ) decided to do in that scene where he was talking about to Gotenks, those voices they used was pretty "cringe" if I were to label it, that probably wasn't his fault but it come out of Beerus at the end of the day.

Well, you didn't mention Douglas portrayal but the thing is I wasn't specifically calling you out for that, I only mentioned that because of the general consensus of this thread. I said it seemed that way based off of what has been said so far... which isn't always very clear.
Most people here are vocal about not liking the voice but they're also pretty vague in their criticism towards it. If someone's saying "he doesn't fit the character" then there are different ways to interpret that. Either the voice doesn't fit the design or he doesn't retain the same personality quirks as the original (original in this case being Jason Douglas or Koichi Yamadera). Since a lot of folks here seem fine with the English voices not matching the Japanese it's reasonable to assume Douglas' portrayal is simply too ingrained to give John DeMita a fair shake.

I agree that the scripting and direction often suck in this dub but I also don't think Beerus' voice itself is the root of the issue.

[rs_chaosmaster]

I think the reason people are so upset by this particular dub is because they have seen Bang Zoom make quality dubs with almost perfect acting. Your Lie in April for example and they are disappointed because they know Bang Zoom has the ability to make a much better dub. Of course mis casting the main character doesn't help :/

[Danfun64]

While certainly not the worst English dub the DB franchise has ever received (that would be the Speedy dubs which didn't have the M/E audio track like Movie 9), this dub has its flaws.

I'm curious, would you guys say this dub or the Blue Water dubs of DBGT and the second half of original DB are better? Both have scripts that are in some ways more literal/accurate compared to the in house funi dubs (less so the first half, where several episodes recycled Funi scripts) and both had censorship when in house funi was available uncut (perhaps less of an issue with blue water GT, but still). Also sometimes the voice acting in both BW and BZ are inferior to in house funi.

[SuperKirillin]

Was there ever a next time? Ep 3 wasn't fully recorded from the other source.

Sorry but I couldn't record all of them

Dragon Ball Super (Audio only) https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0l2d ... jRESUdwZk0

Episode 2 (Audio only) https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0l2d ... DNKZE1ZVDg

Episode 3 (Audio only) https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0l2d ... 1AxaHFncWs

Episode 4 (Audio only) https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0l2d ... TRmVGp5Zm8

[Nightmare Wheel]

While certainly not the worst English dub the DB franchise has ever received (that would be the Speedy dubs which didn't have the M/E audio track like Movie 9), this dub has its flaws.

I'm curious, would you guys say this dub or the Blue Water dubs of DBGT and the second half of original DB are better? Both have scripts that are in some ways more literal/accurate compared to the in house funi dubs (less so the first half, where several episodes recycled Funi scripts) and both had censorship when in house funi was available uncut (perhaps less of an issue with blue water GT, but still). Also sometimes the voice acting in both BW and BZ are inferior to in house funi.

BZ is better than GT, worse than DB. I think people underestimate just how bad the GT dub actually was. Watching the whole thing, which I have, is far from pleasant. It's a trainwreck of voices that are either annoying, recycled or both and acting so stiff it's almost unbelievable.

[Lord Beerus]

I absolute love Ray Chase's Piccolo. He's really starting to grow on me. Tang's Vegeta has also gotten much better. Like, nearly a total 180 in quality. The way he handled the "My Bulma" scene was pretty good. Archie Fletcher continues not to emote as Beerus, script is still far too literal and overall direction is still bad. But you can't say there haven't been improvements in some areas. Also, as others have mentioned, the sound mixing was atrocious in this episode. The effects and voices would turn into near whispers for certain scenes. It was so awkward. Especially with the "My Bulma" scene.

[hulkedoutdude]

If bang zoom could fix 3 things Literal script (I don't know how but their doraemon script for english dub was hilarious, is it because they were targeting american audience?? Are they keeping it they way it is to simplify for english speakers of asia or not i can't say), direction (especially beerus and goku) and stay away from funimation vocal similarity and stick close to japanese vocals as much as they possible!!! Audio mixing was only problem in this episode we don't exactly know if its problem from studio or tv capper yet...

Its for good that they are making mistakes in early stages, since many VA's of bang zoom dub are hanging around kanzenshuu i believe they are taking notes of what fans think very carefully... When they correct those things I can say that even hardcore funi fans won't have any problem viewing this dub!!!

And please stop comparing this dub to speedy dub lol.. this is not bad at all in any way just needs some improvements that's all, Comparing it to speedy even after seeing VA's doing such great job is just plain insult!!

[rs_chaosmaster]

You forgot the 4th one change Goku to ESK

[hulkedoutdude]

Episode 8 is up by the way!!

[Cure Dragon 255]

I'm about to share this thread with MAH BOI ERIK, because he's so loved here!