Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:39 pm

Both Ishikawa and Tsuji are also on today's episode, so it might be fine.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by Sodhi » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:43 pm

I think Kitano would handle the first half and Ishikawa the second. I do expect a lot of Tsuji correction in the first half. At Least Hopefully, because I am not a fan of Kitano's style.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by Gashif Aldi » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:58 pm

Anyone have a shots/animations of any Kitano's good work in his career?
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by Sodhi » Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:20 pm

Can't believe I am just noticing it now, but there are new sound effects. For me these are definitely better than the older ones.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by Ajay » Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:49 pm

I posted this on Twitter earlier (I swear 90% of my observations go there these days. Sorry, thread!), but I thought it might be an interesting talking point, here.

I was watching episode 7 since Bang Zoom's version just aired, and it really stuck out to me how much Shida's style shines through in places, despite only storyboarding it. His board must have been incredibly detailed in places since it seems like key animators outright copied his shading style, and even an eye shape in one shot.

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For reference, some actual Shida work that resembles some of the shots:

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Very cool to see animators adapting the storyboard so closely. Would love to see it! I don't know if I've ever seen a Shida storyboard.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by Doctor. » Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:53 pm

Wasn't Shida's episode #2 storyboard released to the public at some point? At least bits and pieces of it, I'm sure I remember something of the sort.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by Ajay » Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:55 pm

Doctor. wrote:Wasn't Shida's episode #2 storyboard released to the public at some point? At least bits and pieces of it, I'm sure I remember something of the sort.
You're right. I totally forgot it was in the Super Start Guide:

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by Doctor. » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:00 pm

I don't know how detailed storyboards tend to be, but I do recall that Yamamuro's ResF storyboard had incredible detail put into it, in contrast to this one, despite the blandness of it.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:01 pm

Shida's storyboards are pretty awesome and I'd love to see him storyboard for Super again, but honestly as of right now if he is to spend time on Super I'd rather that time be spent animating.
I think it'd be pretty awesome if Shida storyboarded an episode and provided some animation for it as well.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by Ajay » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:02 pm

Doctor. wrote:I don't know how detailed storyboards tend to be, but I do recall that Yamamuro's ResF storyboard had incredible detail put into it, in contrast to this one, despite the blandness of it.
Yeah, Yamamuro's storyboard was like a manga in spots. Back to Shida #7, I suspect the close-ups were detailed, which is why those traits are generally only found in those kinda shots. I dunno, I'm just speculating, but it's weird to see such clear-cut Shida traits, so I'm assuming I'm right.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:30 pm

Outside of a few dumpy shots from Kitano that was a nicely polished episode. It wasn't anything special, but the bit of action at the end was nice.

The NEP didn't really show much action... but I did spot a Gohan shot from Tate that looked really polished. I hope it being light on action isn't a sign that the episode will be too, or that the action looked to bad to show.

EDIT: Holy shit, no 2nd key animators? And Yokoyama did actual animation this time?
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by Sodhi » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:31 pm

Was the bit in the end Higashide? I think so

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by Ajay » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:31 pm

Episode 78

Animation supervisor
Kitano Yukihiro Ishikawa Osamu

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Kitano Yukihiro Ishikawa Osamu Higashide Futoshi Kato Yoshitaka Takamura Kaoru Yagi Genki Nagaki Tatsuhiro Tsuji Miyako Yokoyama Miyuki Sugawara Rieko A-Line TAP

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Great episode. Very much just Tsuji going ham until the second half where we got a good look at Ishikawa. His style's changed a little in these past few episodes. I kinda dig it. Ears are smaller and noses are more pronounced.

Next week looks like some very polished Tate. I'm excited! Looking at the preview again, it looks like Ide has corrected some stuff from him.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:34 pm

I like the direction/storyboarding this episode. It wasn't too crazy amazing, but there were a handful of multi-plane moving shots while characters were just standing there, always a nice way to make a static scene look nicer.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by kinisking » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:34 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:Outside of a few dumpy shots from Kitano that was a nicely polished episode. It wasn't anything special, but the bit of action at the end was nice.

The NEP didn't really show much action... but I did spot a Gohan shot from Tate that looked really polished. I hope it being light on action isn't a sign that the episode will be too, or that the action looked to bad to show.

EDIT: Holy shit, no 2nd key animators? And Yokoyama did actual animation this time?
The NEP for 65 had pretty much no animation but there was a ton in the actual episode.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:36 pm

This probably Kitano's most polished episode so far. The NEP certainly had some Tate characteristics in the facial expression but didn't reveal much in the action side. Hope that means they're keeping the best part for when the episode airs and action isn't actually too light in the episode itself.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:38 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:This probably Kitano's most polished episode so far. The NEP certainly had some Tate characteristics in the facial expression but didn't reveal much in the action side. Hope that means they're keeping the best part for when the episode airs and action isn't actually too light in the episode itself.
The polish didn't come from Kitano, most of his stuff that made it into the episode uncorrected by Tsuji had some dumpiness to it.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by SuperGohan » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:40 pm

I would like to see Ide Takeo as an animator in DBS.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by Ajay » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:41 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:Holy shit, no 2nd key animators? And Yokoyama did actual animation this time?
I have a strong feeling it's just a case of the usual 2nd KA suspects being given KA credit due to the number of cuts they corrected. I believe One Piece does this, too.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 77

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:41 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:This probably Kitano's most polished episode so far. The NEP certainly had some Tate characteristics in the facial expression but didn't reveal much in the action side. Hope that means they're keeping the best part for when the episode airs and action isn't actually too light in the episode itself.
The polish didn't come from Kitano, most of his stuff that made it into the episode uncorrected by Tsuji had some dumpiness to it.
Should have phrased myself better. I meant to say that, from Kitano's perspective and what he's provided for the show up until this point, his contributions in this episode was looked alright. A little dumpy, as you put it, but I found it very serviceable.
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