"Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters" FUNimation English Dub Official Announcement and Discussion Thread

[Jinzoningen MULE]

And THAT is why I don't care for your posts in these threads at all.

Because I waste money for the sake of convenience, or because I hurt your feeling with my negative sentiments towards a bad product? Either way, I'm not really concerned with your thoughts.

If you don't like the English dub, why comment in English dub forums?

Do I really need to explain to you what criticism is and where/why it's applied? Let me re-word that, I'm not going to explain to you what criticism is and where/why it's applied.

[Bansho64]

And THAT is why I don't care for your posts in these threads at all. If you don't like the English dub, why comment in English dub forums? Your posts have more often than not pissed people off. Mostly me, but I don't see many people coming to your aid in these particular forums.

He did for the same reason that people who don't like the original come to Kanzenshuu. The same the reason that people who don't like Super go to the Super part of the forum; to converse. People like to talk about things in DB. That's what the forum is for. He's no different. It's not like he's torturing himself. I'm sure he likes something about it and he has no way said that he hates it.

Why do you have some kind of ridiculous vendetta grudge against the dude? It's a Dragon Ball forum bro. People are here to talk about DB. Whether it's stuff they like or don't like, it doesn't matter. Chill. Relax. He ain't doing anything to you.

[Footlong Shoe]

And THAT is why I don't care for your posts in these threads at all. If you don't like the English dub, why comment in English dub forums? Your posts have more often than not pissed people off. Mostly me, but I don't see many people coming to your aid in these particular forums.

Whoa, calm down, man. This thread is open to discussion, positive and negative.

Anyway, the cover art is up, but my phone sucks ass so I can't post the picture.

Whatever, here's the store page
https://www.funimation.com/shop/pre-ord ... -blr-00170

[Footlong Shoe]

I can't delete this post so I'm changing it. Fixed the link.

[Scsigs]

And THAT is why I don't care for your posts in these threads at all.

Because I waste money for the sake of convenience, or because I hurt your feeling with my negative sentiments towards a bad product? Either way, I'm not really concerned with your thoughts.

If you don't like the English dub, why comment in English dub forums?

Do I really need to explain to you what criticism is and where/why it's applied? Let me re-word that, I'm not going to explain to you what criticism is and where/why it's applied.

How are they bad products? The only real bad products we've gotten for this franchise are for the original version of Z with those horrible DVD & Blu-Ray sets.
If you're talking the English dub, it's been more or less consistent in their steps to rewrite the sins of the past with the newer dubs being faithful, yet playful, translations of the original Japanese. The only thing I can think of that you're mad about is the cast. For that, all I have to say is grow up. Unless something drastic were to happen, they're not going to recast a majority of the actors in these dubs, nor do they need to. Every single one of the actors does a great job at portraying the characters, especially with the better translations & scripts, & they're not going to be recast. I respect all of the actors on both sides of the Pacific, but I'm not going to hate them if they're not 1:1. If an actor in a dub can give their character(s) a fitting voice, & can act, I don't care how well they match the sub. If it fits with the character, it's fine with me.

Also, to everyone else, I'd love to have discussions. I'd like to hear the specifics of what exactly this guy means when he says he doesn't like the dub. Till then, this is what I'm saying towards him.
Let me know & I'll happily discuss this with you, dude.
My standpoint is that I don't like negativity that's unexplained, which is why I sometimes respond as I do, as I'm sure others do. With no explanations, how can we understand something?

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Much better then Part one.

[Footlong Shoe]

Much better then Part one.

I agree. At first glance I thought Boo's cape extended to the spine, but it's just the same color.

Goku's arms look kinda weird though...

[sintzu]

I can't wait for this.

It's really great to see them trying to make up for the delay. They could've released 13 episode part sets every 3 months but instead they're releasing the whole thing in 3 months.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I've never even been critical of the Kai dub (well, maybe when I first joined, but my opinions have softened since then). However, what you say here is strange to me:

How are they bad products? The only real bad products we've gotten for this franchise are for the original version of Z with those horrible DVD & Blu-Ray sets.

Come on, Boo Kai is basically a toned-down version of Funimation's Blu-rays with an ugly green tint. Not to mention that the jp cast performed... disappointingly, to say the least.

The only contention I've ever made is that in spite of the dub, Boo Kai still isn't good enough to justify my approval. Or rather, although I wish I could enjoy the dub more, my misgivings towards the show it's companion to are such that it's not worth it for me. There's really nothing to discuss unless you want to argue over preferences, or present something that will convince me otherwise.

Anyway...
[spoiler][/spoiler]
I guess I'm the only person on Earth who likes the artist that draws these covers.

[Scsigs]

Much better then Part one.

In terms of the illustrations, I agree. Vegeta's forehead on Part 1's was too extended like a neanderthal than it should've been, making it seem a bit rushed & off model for a still image. Yet the Z Blu-Rays, despite how I hate the way the episodes were "remastered," had GREAT cover art.
This one, despite having the same number of discs, has 22 episodes instead of 23 like Part 1, leading to the conclusion that 3 will have 24 episodes. Wonder if 144's a good breaking point before 3 comes out. Anyone know?

[Scsigs]

Much better then Part one.

I agree. At first glance I thought Boo's cape extended to the spine, but it's just the same color.

Goku's arms look kinda weird though...

It's probably done by the artists responsible for Super's animation. People have been complaining about the skinny character designs there too.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

"Episode 131 Video Commentary". Anyone know what episode this is on the international cut?

[Jinzoningen MULE]

It's probably done by the artists responsible for Super's animation.

It isn't, this guy works in-house for Funimation. It's the same one who drew the covers for their Z Blu-rays.

[Footlong Shoe]

This one, despite having the same number of discs, has 22 episodes instead of 23 like Part 1, leading to the conclusion that 3 will have 24 episodes.

No, it has 23 episodes.

122-144, remember that 122 is included in that episode count.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

It's probably done by the artists responsible for Super's animation.

It isn't, this guy works in-house for Funimation. It's the same one who drew the covers for their Z Blu-rays.

No they're from Japan & Toei.

From their response to the BDs:
"We worked very closely with the art team at Toei Animation in Japan"

[Footlong Shoe]

It's probably done by the artists responsible for Super's animation.

It isn't, this guy works in-house for Funimation. It's the same one who drew the covers for their Z Blu-rays.

No they're from Japan & Toei.

From their response to the BDs:
"We worked very closely with the art team at Toei Animation in Japan"

Either way, it is the same artist. I believe he also did the cover art for Battle of Gods.

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

This is unrelated to Kai but can you use multiple gift cards (like Visa ones) on FUNi's site? Because I want to pre order Film Gold and Heart of Gold. Also, when does RightStuf usually list new FUNi stuff once they're announced?

[Jinzoningen MULE]

No they're from Japan & Toei.

From their response to the BDs:
"We worked very closely with the art team at Toei Animation in Japan"

Is that right? I just assumed. It's odd that Toei would provide an artist. Oh well, same thing anyhow.

[Scsigs]

I've never even been critical of the Kai dub (well, maybe when I first joined, but my opinions have softened since then). However, what you say here is strange to me:

How are they bad products? The only real bad products we've gotten for this franchise are for the original version of Z with those horrible DVD & Blu-Ray sets.

Come on, Boo Kai is basically a toned-down version of Funimation's Blu-rays with an ugly green tint. Not to mention that the jp cast performed... disappointingly, to say the least.

The only contention I've ever made is that in spite of the dub, Boo Kai still isn't good enough to justify my approval. Or rather, although I wish I could enjoy the dub more, my misgivings towards the show it's companion to are such that it's not worth it for me. There's really nothing to discuss unless you want to argue over preferences, or present something that will convince me otherwise.

Anyway...
[spoiler][/spoiler]
I guess I'm the only person on Earth who likes the artist that draws these covers.

I know the quality's comparable to FUNimation's Blu-Rays in some areas. I don't get why they didn't have the company that did the first 4 arcs continue, considering they were working on the cheap then too with recutting the footage rather than reanimate it entirely, considering I loved what they did to recut the footage & remaster it. However, I'm more inclined to get these than FUNimation's sets for the following reasons:
1. Not as much filler, since they cut it down by a little over 20 episodes from the original.
2. The English dub here is much better, I'd say actually great, than the original dub & I can actually stand it without cringing at bad dialogue or poor voice acting in spots. "Oh my gosh" & the like for the lines & a rather poor delivery on Sean's part during some of the more serious parts. I'll let this clip speak on that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4L-L8HoMvI He's far from a bad/the worst actor in the Buu saga of Z's dub, but he had a ways to go before he got to the level he's at now.
As for the Japanese cast, I'll leave that up to the fans of the sub, as while I've seen clips, I don't go straight to the sub unless I have to when the dub's available & perfectly watchable. Although, I do find sub fans who try to judge the delivery in another language they can't understand without subtitles interesting.
3. The arc's remastering is STILL better than anything FUNi's put out for Z, even as-is. There's no eye-bleeding colors, there's no watercolors, & I will actually stand to watch it. Besides, there's still a fan edit of both Z & Kai to remove all of the filler possible, where he's going to edit Kai's English voice track to both Z's recut footage & Kai's & I can't wait. Even WITH the green tint, most of which my TV hasn't shown as I've been watching the Toonami broadcasts (although that could change when I watch it through the Blu-Rays on my Xbox One) & I don't necessarily mind the cropping, even though Toei SHOULD'VE made 4:3 masters. We'll eventually have the recut for that though. Everything's fine, though it could be better.
4. The arc was edited, basically, for overseas broadcasts because Kai as a whole did better over here. It only aired in Japan because they needed something to fill in Toriko's timeslot after its unexpected cancellation. Toei are appealing to the audience who specifically love Kai for the various reasons we do with it. Took forever to get announced, but it's finally here.
These releases aren't perfect, but at least I can buy & watch them without regretting the purchase. I absolutely REFUSE to buy the season set Z Blu-Rays because they're bad, oh my god are they bad.

I don't expect everyone to go straight to the dub, I just thought people can at least respect the translations a good percentage of the time & the fact that the cast does great with their characters.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

No they're from Japan & Toei.

From their response to the BDs:
"We worked very closely with the art team at Toei Animation in Japan"

Is that right? I just assumed. It's odd that Toei would provide an artist. Oh well, same thing anyhow.

Yeah, I have never known FUNi to make art in house before. but anyway here is where it was from http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2013/12/31/fu ... questions/ FUNi did saythey did minor tweaks to make them fit but seems like Toei just got one of their interns to do it I would honestly have preferred Yamamuro and all his unimaginative-ness to have done them and these tbh, SS3 with that Kamehameha pose!