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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by mfwlegend3 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:51 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:I actually think Rock music and DB from Z onwards do go well together... :shifty:
And apparently, Toriyama does too. Enough to be inspired from the Freeza song by Maximum Hormone to make RoF and even put in the movie.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:12 am

A few things.

I don't enjoy the idea of going and watching the original 12(13?) Dragon Ball Movies as I watched Coola's revenge, besides the voices being off and Falconer the sounds just felt old and cheap.

The GT English dub is the worst thing I've ever watched. I think I only ever managed to watch six minutes of the first episode before I bailed.

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Post by Danfun64 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:20 am

Gog wrote:The GT English dub is the worst thing I've ever watched. I think I only ever managed to watch six minutes of the first episode before I bailed.
Funimation or Blue Water? If Funi, with or without the Menza replacement score? And by first episode do you mean the actual first episode or the "A Grand Problem" recap thing?
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Post by Gog » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:49 am

Danfun64 wrote:
Gog wrote:The GT English dub is the worst thing I've ever watched. I think I only ever managed to watch six minutes of the first episode before I bailed.
Funimation or Blue Water? If Funi, with or without the Menza replacement score? And by first episode do you mean the actual first episode or the "A Grand Problem" recap thing?
I remember hearing the perfect voice of Schean Schemmel, so Funimation and I never heard any obnoxious 80'S music so without the Menza replacement score and it was the actual first episode,you know Uub, Goku battling in Kami's place.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kanassa » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:30 am

ekrolo2 wrote:Nazo Unleashed is the best DBZ fan animation series.
What about Dragonball Abso-... Sorry, couldn't even finish that sentence.

What's Nazo Unleashed? All I can find on youtube is some Sonic looking fanfiction.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ekrolo2 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:08 am

Kanassa wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:Nazo Unleashed is the best DBZ fan animation series.
What about Dragonball Abso-... Sorry, couldn't even finish that sentence.

What's Nazo Unleashed? All I can find on youtube is some Sonic looking fanfiction.
That's it. It's the best Z one since it uses that style of fighting with the big energy blasts, trasformations and such better than most actual Z fanimations.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kanassa » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:09 am

ekrolo2 wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:Nazo Unleashed is the best DBZ fan animation series.
What about Dragonball Abso-... Sorry, couldn't even finish that sentence.

What's Nazo Unleashed? All I can find on youtube is some Sonic looking fanfiction.
That's it. It's the best Z one since it uses that style of fighting with the big energy blasts, trasformations and such better than most actual Z fanimations.
So, it's not a Z fanimation? It's a Sonic Fanimation that uses a few more dragonball elements then Sonic already does.
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Post by ekrolo2 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:10 am

Kanassa wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:
Kanassa wrote: What about Dragonball Abso-... Sorry, couldn't even finish that sentence.

What's Nazo Unleashed? All I can find on youtube is some Sonic looking fanfiction.
That's it. It's the best Z one since it uses that style of fighting with the big energy blasts, trasformations and such better than most actual Z fanimations.
So, it's not a Z fanimation? It's a Sonic Fanimation that uses a few more dragonball elements then Sonic already does.
That should tell you the poor state of DB fanimations :P
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Post by Kanassa » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:19 am

ekrolo2 wrote:
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ekrolo2 wrote: That's it. It's the best Z one since it uses that style of fighting with the big energy blasts, trasformations and such better than most actual Z fanimations.
So, it's not a Z fanimation? It's a Sonic Fanimation that uses a few more dragonball elements then Sonic already does.
That should tell you the poor state of DB fanimations :P
Not really. Unless we're not including sprite animation. And still, it's not a DBZ fananimation, it's a Sonic Fananimation.

Also, started watching. First reaction ''Shadow, why do you have blue paint on you?"
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Post by Noah » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:29 am

ekrolo2 wrote:Nazo Unleashed is the best DBZ fan animation series.
Yeah, too bad Super Mario Bros. Z didn't follow the same route.
Kanassa wrote:First reaction ''Shadow, why do you have blue paint on you?"
That's not Shadow, that's Nazo.
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Post by kinisking » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:32 am

If we consider sprite fanimations, the new one with Future Gohan versus Black is great .
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Post by ekrolo2 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:35 am

kinisking wrote:If we consider sprite fanimations, the new one with Future Gohan versus Black is great .
That sounds awesome! What's it called?
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Post by Boo Machine » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:41 am

ekrolo2 wrote:
kinisking wrote:If we consider sprite fanimations, the new one with Future Gohan versus Black is great .
That sounds awesome! What's it called?
I believe this is what he is means. It's the newest one I know of.

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Post by kinisking » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:42 am

ekrolo2 wrote:
kinisking wrote:If we consider sprite fanimations, the new one with Future Gohan versus Black is great .
That sounds awesome! What's it called?
https://youtu.be/lTsr_u1E1c8

You'll love the ending (;
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kanassa » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:14 pm

Noah wrote: That's not Shadow, that's Nazo.
You sure? He talks like Shadow the whole way through, at least this time it's easier for people to mistake him for sonic.
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Post by ekrolo2 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:22 pm

Kanassa wrote:
Noah wrote: That's not Shadow, that's Nazo.
You sure? He talks like Shadow the whole way through, at least this time it's easier for people to mistake him for sonic.
Shadow himself is in it so I think Nazo probably isn't him :P

"Nazo" was originally just a form of Super Sonic the Sonic X show wanted to introduce but they scrapped the idea and went for the classic golden look instead.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kanassa » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:40 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
Noah wrote: That's not Shadow, that's Nazo.
You sure? He talks like Shadow the whole way through, at least this time it's easier for people to mistake him for sonic.
Shadow himself is in it so I think Nazo probably isn't him :P

"Nazo" was originally just a form of Super Sonic the Sonic X show wanted to introduce but they scrapped the idea and went for the classic golden look instead.
Shadows just doign that to throw Sonic off! :D
And yeah, I know about the concept of Nazo. Though I don't know why they'd want to give him a different form in the first place, I mean, marketing-wise wasn't Super Sonic iconic by the point the show was made?
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Post by Basaku » Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:54 pm

DB Online timeline is as bad if not worse alternative to post-DBZ events than GT. It reads like a neverending list convinient & forced excuses to suit the gameplay demands of an MMO game. Lack of multiple iconic races living on Earth for players to pick from? Namekians relocate for some silly reason, Buu makes himself a girlfriend and reproduces en masse (I mean... just...) Lack of martial arts schools to serve as class archetypes? Everyone and their mothers from the original DB cast opens one. Freeza's army returns and wrecks havok. Talk about the least imaginative idea for a DB villain ever.

Time Patrol Trunks/Mira etc is the only thing that doesn't feel forced and unplausible. Rest should just fall into dark corners of the franchise history.

Hopefully whatever future post-EOZ Dragon Ball franchise gets created will mostly disregard both GT and DBO and only pick the best stuff to reincorporate if necessary

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:24 pm

Basaku wrote:DB Online timeline is as bad if not worse alternative to post-DBZ events than GT. It reads like a neverending list convinient & forced excuses to suit the gameplay demands of an MMO game. Lack of multiple iconic races living on Earth for players to pick from? Namekians relocate for some silly reason, Buu makes himself a girlfriend and reproduces en masse (I mean... just...) Lack of martial arts schools to serve as class archetypes? Everyone and their mothers from the original DB cast opens one. Freeza's army returns and wrecks havok. Talk about the least imaginative idea for a DB villain ever.

Time Patrol Trunks/Mira etc is the only thing that doesn't feel forced and unplausible. Rest should just fall into dark corners of the franchise history.

Hopefully whatever future post-EOZ Dragon Ball franchise gets created will mostly disregard both GT and DBO and only pick the best stuff to reincorporate if necessary
Objectively, it's pretty lame. But it makes for such a fun world with so many opportunities that I don't mind. While I actually like GT, the ending did the exact opposite. It essentially closed off any future that the series could have branching off from that conclusion.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:40 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:Objectively, it's pretty lame.
...wait, what? "Lame" is subjective in this context.
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