"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by zamasu121 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:24 am

RehBeh wrote:
zamasu121 wrote:Are people just going to ignore the fact that mai survived a head on attack from ssr black?
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Mr. Satan survived a punch from fucking Yi Xing Long in the stomach. And it wasn't a head on attack on Mai.
what does gt have to do with this?
btw that was a head on attack she was right next to him.

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Post by perucho1990 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:25 am

Ki Breaker wrote: Satan survived one from cell, it's no different here..
They don't attack to kill
Gag scene, and Piccolo mentioned he didnt attempt to put effort in slapping Mr Satan because he isnt worth it.

Unlike Black who has been portrayed to be a monster and more sadistic than Cell.

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Post by RehBeh » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:26 am

zamasu121 wrote:

what does gt have to do with this?
btw that was a head on attack she was right next to him.
It's not about GT, it's about a character surviving a punch from a character miles stronger than him. Black didn't punch her, he simply pushed her back.
GT wasn't that bad
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ekrolo2 wrote: He is, its just that no one holds him in high esteem, even in-universe.
He must feel awful. Being a God and no one respects him. Just sad.
And Zamasu thought he had it bad. Fuckin' edgy Kaios thinking about "Justice" and shit just because they got strong by chance.

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Post by zamasu121 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:28 am

The gr wrote:
zamasu121 wrote:
The gr wrote: Is because Mai has PIS at her side :P but honestly why should I complain because Mr Satan survive an attack from Buu and cell
Mr Satan is a gag character, mai is not(well at least not in super).
So uh a 60 year old girl looks like a young woman, doesn't that scream gag character,oh and goku black ki force Mai,he did not attack Mai head on, but the question is, how trunks is surviving the brutal beatdown from Goku black
trunks is passable, although still kind of bs, but mai surviving black attack when he is right next to her is probably the biggest bs i have ever seen in dragon ball super.

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Post by The gr » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:30 am

zamasu121 wrote:
The gr wrote:
zamasu121 wrote:
Mr Satan is a gag character, mai is not(well at least not in super).
So uh a 60 year old girl looks like a young woman, doesn't that scream gag character,oh and goku black ki force Mai,he did not attack Mai head on, but the question is, how trunks is surviving the brutal beatdown from Goku black
trunks is passable, although still kind of bs, but mai surviving black attack when he is right next to her is probably the biggest bs i have ever seen in dragon ball super.
To me the biggest bs in DBS was fucking Ginyu-tagoma and trunks landing hit to goku black anime and manga trough the manga was more bs, but the Mai thing pails in Comparison to genkidama sword,if that appear in the manga,I will not give the manga a free pass I will criticize it
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Post by Tsufuru » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:34 am

show a non gag scene made by toriyama.
in a non gag scene goku had to concentrate not to hurt chichi back in dragonball.

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Post by zamasu121 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:36 am

The gr wrote:
zamasu121 wrote:
The gr wrote: So uh a 60 year old girl looks like a young woman, doesn't that scream gag character,oh and goku black ki force Mai,he did not attack Mai head on, but the question is, how trunks is surviving the brutal beatdown from Goku black
trunks is passable, although still kind of bs, but mai surviving black attack when he is right next to her is probably the biggest bs i have ever seen in dragon ball super.
To me the biggest bs in DBS was fucking Ginyu-tagoma and trunks landing hit to goku black anime and manga trough the manga was more bs
yea all those moments are bad, but this one takes the cake for me.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:44 am

RehBeh wrote:
zamasu121 wrote:

what does gt have to do with this?
btw that was a head on attack she was right next to him.
It's not about GT, it's about a character surviving a punch from a character miles stronger than him. Black didn't punch her, he simply pushed her back.
It still should have heavily injured her at the very least.

The thing that worries me most is that Vegeta training in the ROSAT is going to lead up to him beating Goku Black again. The problem with that is that... it won't mean anything. We've already seen Vegeta kick Goku Black's ass. So the catharsis factor of Vegeta returning much stronger and getting the upper hand against Goku Black again won't be there, much like how it was in the anime. I hope that Toyotaro take the unique route and has Vegeta just lose again to Black. But if the event will play out just like in the anime, then honestly I can't say that I care for the prospect of Vegeta beating up Goku Black again.

Other than that, I'm liking what I'm seeing in this chapter so far. Goku Black savagely beating up Future Trunks was great to watch... even though Black should have just killed him on the spot. I do have to wonder though, how did Kaioshin manage to bail out Future Trunks before Goku Black was seemingly about to kill him? Of course, if that's even the case to begin with. Because that happening make no sense as Kaioshin in dead in Future Trunks' timeline, and if it's Present Kaioshin, then how the hell was he able to time travel to Future Trunks timeline? Is this any ability that Kaioshin have? Because if so, I'm sorry, but I gotta call shenanigans on that bullshit. If Kaioshin are able to time travel then why the hell do the Time Rings even exist?

EDIT: Just read Chapter 19 and Kaioshin does have a time ring and mentions using it to seeing Zamasu's future. So I retract my second complaint.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:45 am

mfwlegend3 wrote:More leaked images.
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Can't see the images.

(Apologies for double posting)

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Post by mfwlegend3 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:46 am

Lord Beerus wrote:Can't see the images.

(Apologies for double posting)
Probably because they were directly taken from /a/
http://imgur.com/a/GNydU Here.
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Post by mfwlegend3 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:48 am

Lord Beerus wrote:how the hell was he able to time travel to Future Trunks timeline? Is this any ability that Kaioshin have? Because if so, I'm sorry, but I gotta call shenanigans on that bullshit. If Kaioshin are able to time travel then why the hell do the Time Rings even exist?
Shin is currently in possession of the Time Ring, and as he told Beerus two chapters ago, he would go to the future to relay a message to Goku and Vegeta. He probably went there anyways for Trunks and Mai.

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Post by The gr » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:50 am

Lord Beerus wrote:
RehBeh wrote:
zamasu121 wrote:

what does gt have to do with this?
btw that was a head on attack she was right next to him.
It's not about GT, it's about a character surviving a punch from a character miles stronger than him. Black didn't punch her, he simply pushed her back.
It still should have heavily injured her at the very least.

The thing that worries me most is that Vegeta training in the ROSAT is going to lead up to him beating Goku Black again. The problem with that is that... it won't mean anything. We've already seen Vegeta kick Goku Black's ass. So the catharsis factor of Vegeta returning much stronger and getting the upper hand against Goku Black again won't be there, much like how it was in the anime.I hope that Toyotaro take the unique route as has Vegeta just lose again to Black. But if the event will play out just like in the anime, then honestly I can't say that I care for the prospect of Vegeta beating up Goku Black again.

Other than that, I'm liking what I'm seeing in this chapter so far. Goku Black savagely beating up Future Trunks was great to watch... even though Black should have just killed him on the spot. I do have to wonder though, how did Kaioshin manage to bail out Future Trunks before Goku Black was seemingly about to kill him? Of course, if that's even the case to begin with. Because that happening make no sense as Kaioshin in dead in Future Trunks' timeline, and if it's Present Kaioshin, then how the hell was he able to time travel to Future Trunks timeline? Is this any ability that Kaioshin have? Because if so, I'm sorry, but I gotta call shenanigans on that bullshit. If Kaioshin are able to time travel then why the hell do the Time Rings even exist?
the kaioshin travel to the future with gowasu in the anime so in the manga he will go to the future with gowasu, and in the previous chapter the kaioshin is in possession with the time ring,I can't believe you missed that detail
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Post by RehBeh » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:54 am

Lord Beerus wrote: It still should have heavily injured her at the very least.
We don't know if she's unharmed.
Also Shin travelled to the future in the anime too.
GT wasn't that bad
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ekrolo2 wrote: He is, its just that no one holds him in high esteem, even in-universe.
He must feel awful. Being a God and no one respects him. Just sad.
And Zamasu thought he had it bad. Fuckin' edgy Kaios thinking about "Justice" and shit just because they got strong by chance.

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Post by ekrolo2 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:56 am

Vegeta powering up from the ROSAT is here so that really, really blows. On the flip side, looks like there's no SSIkari in the manga!
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Post by zamasu121 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:57 am

RehBeh wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote: It still should have heavily injured her at the very least.
We don't know if she's unharmed.
Also Shin travelled to the future in the anime too.
she is unharmed, there are more leaks then what you saw.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:57 am

Knew there is no point rushing since he's never gonna catch the anime up at all so glad Sheuisha isn't making him. Now if only this was in colour...
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Post by MisteryOne » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:00 am

Lord Beerus wrote:
RehBeh wrote:
zamasu121 wrote:

what does gt have to do with this?
btw that was a head on attack she was right next to him.
It's not about GT, it's about a character surviving a punch from a character miles stronger than him. Black didn't punch her, he simply pushed her back.
It still should have heavily injured her at the very least.

The thing that worries me most is that Vegeta training in the ROSAT is going to lead up to him beating Goku Black again. The problem with that is that... it won't mean anything. We've already seen Vegeta kick Goku Black's ass. So the catharsis factor of Vegeta returning much stronger and getting the upper hand against Goku Black again won't be there, much like how it was in the anime.I hope that Toyotaro take the unique route as has Vegeta just lose again to Black. But if the event will play out just like in the anime, then honestly I can't say that I care for the prospect of Vegeta beating up Goku Black again.

Other than that, I'm liking what I'm seeing in this chapter so far. Goku Black savagely beating up Future Trunks was great to watch... even though Black should have just killed him on the spot. I do have to wonder though, how did Kaioshin manage to bail out Future Trunks before Goku Black was seemingly about to kill him? Of course, if that's even the case to begin with. Because that happening make no sense as Kaioshin in dead in Future Trunks' timeline, and if it's Present Kaioshin, then how the hell was he able to time travel to Future Trunks timeline? Is this any ability that Kaioshin have? Because if so, I'm sorry, but I gotta call shenanigans on that bullshit. If Kaioshin are able to time travel then why the hell do the Time Rings even exist?
Present Kaioshin already travelled in time to Trunks future using a Time Ring just before exposing Present Zamasu's plans. And he said he would do it again to tell Goku and Vegeta about the second Zamasu.

I will never understand why people try to find plotholes without remembering/reading the rest of the chapters. Like seriously...

Completely agree on the Vegeta thing trough. Not only would it be bullshit power levels again just like in the anime, but also it would lack the plot-weight (I'm sorry, I don't know how to express this in English) that it had there, because we have already see the whole «Saiyan Cells» speech.

Mai surviving attacks from Black is not more bullshit that what happened in the anime when he fired a direct Ki blast to her. Then again, at this point neither Toriyama or any of the medias really cares about power consistency and logic...which is a same.

I really don't see the point of this chapter trough if it ends with Goku using the Mafuba.Just like I didn't see the point of Trunks dealing with both Zamasus and being rescuted by Yajirobe offscreen in the anime. I mean, Goku and Vegeta have a fucking time machine. Couldn't they just return to the point before they left instead of Trunks having to face Black and wait for them? Time in both timelines shouldn't flow at the same time if the time paradox (which is bullshit anyway, but...) is true. This arc has way more potential than any of the both mediums (and Toriyama itself) used. But oh well...
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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:00 am

ekrolo2 wrote:Vegeta powering up from the ROSAT is here so that really, really blows. On the flip side, looks like there's no SSIkari in the manga!
Don't be surprised if Future Trunks gets a Zenkai from getting clobbered by SSJR Goku Black and some shenanigans happen in the next chapter lead to him getting Super Saiyan Ikari/Rage/Whatever-the-fuck.

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Post by HeroR » Fri Feb 17, 2017 11:01 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Knew tere is no point rushing since he's never gonna catch the anime up at all so glad Sheuisha isn't making him. Now if only this was in colour...
He did rushed in the beginning, but seems to be slowing down now. I think it is because there are plot points from Toriyama that he really can't skim over like he did with a lot of Zamasu's development.
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