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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gaffer Tape » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:53 pm

Gog wrote:I don't care about any of the human fighters.
Really? Because that doesn't leave you with many fighters left... the artificial humans... Magetta... Boo, I think... The gods...
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Post by Anime Kitten » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:58 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:Really? Because that doesn't leave you with many fighters left... the artificial humans... Magetta... Boo, I think... The gods...
I'm pretty sure he was referring to Earthlings. I'm not sure everyone understands the relation between the two terms.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:31 pm

Bansho64 wrote:This seems to be a pretty unpopular one on here;

The Bluray season sets are really awesome.
I liked them more before a friend loaned me the Dragon Boxes. You can't really go back once you experience the real deal. It's like someone threw a bucket of water on the footage, destroying any sense of depth, destroying the details in the backgrounds, degrading the linework. The whole thing just looks like melted wax in comparison. Luckily, the Blu-rays are affordable enough to make up for it (even though they could have put out something better for the same or less). They're basically in the same situation as the Orange Bricks.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:11 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:
Gog wrote:I don't care about any of the human fighters.
Really? Because that doesn't leave you with many fighters left... the artificial humans... Magetta... Boo, I think... The gods...
Yeah. Actually I have Frost, I have Cabba, I have Hit, I have the god's, and Tien's not human :P . But I will admit I do have a liking for Yamcha, it's just that he hasn't even turned up for the tournament of power and he has always been a butt monkey. But in the end what have the human's done for me too care about them? They could all literally die right now and they wouldn't affect the plot that much.
Anime Kitten wrote: I'm pretty sure he was referring to Earthlings. I'm not sure everyone understands the relation between the two terms.
Nah, referring too humans.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Bansho64 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:13 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote: I liked them more before a friend loaned me the Dragon Boxes. You can't really go back once you experience the real deal. It's like someone threw a bucket of water on the footage, destroying any sense of depth, destroying the details in the backgrounds, degrading the linework. The whole thing just looks like melted wax in comparison. Luckily, the Blu-rays are affordable enough to make up for it (even though they could have put out something better for the same or less). They're basically in the same situation as the Orange Bricks.
I've seen the Dragon Boxes. They're awesome and I definitely think they look better, but like you said, the Blu Days are more affordable. I ain't got the money for all that.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:11 pm

Goku Show (starring Vegeta) > (power gap) > Equal screentime, ensembling cast.

The whole concept of giving equal time to the cast is total BS and gives me cancer whenever a fan demands it.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gaffer Tape » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:13 pm

Gog wrote:Yeah. Actually I have Frost, I have Cabba, I have Hit, I have the god's, and Tien's not human :P
With the exception of the gods, all of those guys are humans, though...
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:14 pm

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:Goku Show (starring Vegeta) > (power gap) > Equal screentime, ensembling cast.

The whole concept of giving equal time to the cast is total BS and gives me cancer whenever a fan demands it.
Agreed, not about the cancer thing, but certainly about giving equal screen time. It's just not that series. It's not about the number of minutes, it's the quality of the minutes.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:17 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:
Gog wrote:Yeah. Actually I have Frost, I have Cabba, I have Hit, I have the god's, and Tien's not human :P
With the exception of the gods, all of those guys are humans, though...
Frost, Cabba, and Hit ain't human. Also I'm not referring to mortals by the way, so uh why did you assume I was talking about mortals? When I specified that I don't actually care about humans?

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ekrolo2 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:24 pm

Gog wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:
Gog wrote:Yeah. Actually I have Frost, I have Cabba, I have Hit, I have the god's, and Tien's not human :P
With the exception of the gods, all of those guys are humans, though...
Frost, Cabba, and Hit ain't human. Also I'm not referring to mortals by the way, so uh why did you assume I was talking about mortals? When I specified that I don't actually care about humans?
Human and mortal are both "ningen" and can be used interchangeably with one another, though human is technically more correct since none of the Gods besides most of the new ones are actually immortal.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:57 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
Gog wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:
With the exception of the gods, all of those guys are humans, though...
Frost, Cabba, and Hit ain't human. Also I'm not referring to mortals by the way, so uh why did you assume I was talking about mortals? When I specified that I don't actually care about humans?
Human and mortal are both "ningen" and can be used interchangeably with one another, though human is technically more correct since none of the Gods besides most of the new ones are actually immortal.
That's clearly not the case in English, though.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ekrolo2 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:58 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:That's clearly not the case in English, though.
How do you mean?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by kinisking » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:58 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
Gog wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:
With the exception of the gods, all of those guys are humans, though...
Frost, Cabba, and Hit ain't human. Also I'm not referring to mortals by the way, so uh why did you assume I was talking about mortals? When I specified that I don't actually care about humans?
Human and mortal are both "ningen" and can be used interchangeably with one another, though human is technically more correct since none of the Gods besides most of the new ones are actually immortal.
Were not speaking or translating from Japanese so I don't think human and mortal should be used interchangeably at all.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ekrolo2 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:00 pm

kinisking wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:
Gog wrote:
Frost, Cabba, and Hit ain't human. Also I'm not referring to mortals by the way, so uh why did you assume I was talking about mortals? When I specified that I don't actually care about humans?
Human and mortal are both "ningen" and can be used interchangeably with one another, though human is technically more correct since none of the Gods besides most of the new ones are actually immortal.
Were not speaking or translating from Japanese so I don't think human and mortal should be used interchangeably at all.
I don't like it either since it just needlessly complicates things when you can call Namekians and Saiyan's (who aren't humans) human. The mortal one isn't perfect because a lot of the Gods aren't immortal but I think you can get away with it thanks to some of the new one's like Zeno, the Angels,...
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:04 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:That's clearly not the case in English, though.
How do you mean?
In English the words "mortals" and "humans" clearly have different meanings, and Gog used "humans", Gaffer Tape most likely intentionally misinterpreted it as some sort of joke since that sort of confusion only works in Japanese.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Doctor. » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:46 pm

Norio Wakamoto is an overrated voice actor. His performance as Cell has gotten considerably worse and as a voice actor in general, all of his roles are a bit same-y, due to him constantly doing that wacky over-the-top voice all the time.

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Post by LuckyCat » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:57 pm

Doctor. wrote:Norio Wakamoto is an overrated voice actor. His performance as Cell has gotten considerably worse and as a voice actor in general, all of his roles are a bit same-y, due to him constantly doing that wacky over-the-top voice all the time.
Is this unpopular? I thought most fans thought Wakamoto goofed around too much in recent works like Kai. His original work in the DBZ through Cowboy Bebop era were his best roles. He can still do some of his good old acting, but I think he needs more direction/attempts now. Like his roles in Detective Conan are spot on.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ekrolo2 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:59 pm

I've never liked Wakamoto's Cell, it's never sat right with me.
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Post by King-K9 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:31 pm

Goku is the best character in anime history.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:38 pm

King-K9 wrote:Goku is the best character in anime history.
Why do you think so?
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