I'm thinking Grand Priest informed every universe's Kaioshin and Hakaishin about this and then they relayed the information to the fighters that will represent their respective universe so that they will take this seriously. But at the same time they're so consumed in making their universe look good they've forgotten about the the stipulation paired with the tournament.Kishido wrote:Again how does Bergamo even knows about the erasing rule
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I think Gohan wins and then says if U9 doesn't pull their crap up he'll erase them and that's how the rule will be blurted out.kinisking wrote:I doubt they won't explain it.Kishido wrote:Again how does Bergamo even knows about the erasing rule
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Oh Goku's gonna fight Bergamo, there's no doubt about that. He probably still thinks Zeno won't go through with the rule and won't until one universe drops, which may be U9 as early as this part since the whole purpose of this exhibition fighting is to serve as an in-universe tease for the main event. It would fit for U9s "teaser role" to go to its logical conclusion: getting annihilated by Zeno to prove to everyone that definitively shit will go down hard.
Plus, it means Toriyama & Toyotaro don't need to design seven more characters for U9.
Plus, it means Toriyama & Toyotaro don't need to design seven more characters for U9.
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Either way this is gonna be a win-win for me, things that will heavily define the tone of the whole arc on my birthday, couldnt ask for a better B-day gift.
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I wouldn't be so sure. Goku did forfeit during the Champa arc.ekrolo2 wrote:Oh Goku's gonna fight Bergamo, there's no doubt about that. He probably still thinks Zeno won't go through with the rule and won't until one universe drops, which may be U9 as early as this part since the whole purpose of this exhibition fighting is to serve as an in-universe tease for the main event. It would fit for U9s "teaser role" to go to its logical conclusion: getting annihilated by Zeno to prove to everyone that definitively shit will go down hard.
Plus, it means Toriyama & Toyotaro don't need to design seven more characters for U9.
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Get the feeling that's why Bergamo is making the deal.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:I think Gohan wins and then says if U9 doesn't pull their crap up he'll erase them and that's how the rule will be blurted out.kinisking wrote:I doubt they won't explain it.Kishido wrote:Again how does Bergamo even knows about the erasing rule
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Only because he couldn't fight Hit all out, if Champa and Beerus agreed to remove the no killing rule, he would've kept going until one of them lost.kinisking wrote:I wouldn't be so sure. Goku did forfeit during the Champa arc.ekrolo2 wrote:Oh Goku's gonna fight Bergamo, there's no doubt about that. He probably still thinks Zeno won't go through with the rule and won't until one universe drops, which may be U9 as early as this part since the whole purpose of this exhibition fighting is to serve as an in-universe tease for the main event. It would fit for U9s "teaser role" to go to its logical conclusion: getting annihilated by Zeno to prove to everyone that definitively shit will go down hard.
Plus, it means Toriyama & Toyotaro don't need to design seven more characters for U9.
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Goku fights Bergamo, is satisfied, decides to throw the match to spare U9 and somehow he accidentally wins. That's my prediction.
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Yeah I don't think Bergamo would be doing all these things if the score was 1-1, I'm fairly confident Gohan wins or is a tie.Big Black Saiyan wrote:Get the feeling that's why Bergamo is making the deal.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:I think Gohan wins and then says if U9 doesn't pull their crap up he'll erase them and that's how the rule will be blurted out.kinisking wrote: I doubt they won't explain it.
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Didn't he also stop because he didn't want to be a pawn ? well he's one. And you think fighting a person he's pretty much already beaten is more important than lives to him ? Goku's not that bad. The only way I see him not throwing the fight is if it means u7 is going to get destroyed .ekrolo2 wrote:Only because he couldn't fight Hit all out, if Champa and Beerus agreed to remove the no killing rule, he would've kept going until one of them lost.kinisking wrote:I wouldn't be so sure. Goku did forfeit during the Champa arc.ekrolo2 wrote:Oh Goku's gonna fight Bergamo, there's no doubt about that. He probably still thinks Zeno won't go through with the rule and won't until one universe drops, which may be U9 as early as this part since the whole purpose of this exhibition fighting is to serve as an in-universe tease for the main event. It would fit for U9s "teaser role" to go to its logical conclusion: getting annihilated by Zeno to prove to everyone that definitively shit will go down hard.
Plus, it means Toriyama & Toyotaro don't need to design seven more characters for U9.
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Funny thought....Goku cannot forfeit the match. The present Omni-King knows how strong Goku is.
If he tries to loose the fight on purposes the Omni-Kings will erase him, his team and possibly team U9 to!
If he tries to loose the fight on purposes the Omni-Kings will erase him, his team and possibly team U9 to!
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Is it wrong to think there is a possibility that Bergamo would just beat Goku clean as a whistle?
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After this new condition is brought up they will probably suggest throwing the match but then Beerus will mention that if Goku does throw the match Zeno might destroy Universe 7 for not meeting his expectations.
They will probably play it off as a moral dilemma with Goku coming to the conclusion that winning the match is the correct choice.
They will probably play it off as a moral dilemma with Goku coming to the conclusion that winning the match is the correct choice.
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I'm going with this again, because with Gohan winning is 2-0 for U7, and if U9 gets swept its logical they would get erased for being too weak.Baggie_Saiyan wrote: I think Gohan wins and then says if U9 doesn't pull their crap up he'll erase them and that's how the rule will be blurted out.
Gohan fans should be extremely happy he is winning this saturday.
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No, I've got a strong feeling he's much stronger then most people think and his copy cat ability should be interesting.Lord Beerus wrote:Is it wrong to think there is a possibility that Bergamo would just beat Goku clean as a whistle?
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I doubt Goku would've cared about being a pawn if Champa and Beerus gave into his suggestion. Who's he already beaten? Bergamo?kinisking wrote:Didn't he also stop because he didn't want to be a pawn ? well he's one. And you think fighting a person he's pretty much already beaten is more important than lives to him ? Goku's not that bad. The only way I see him not throwing the fight is if it means u7 is going to get destroyed .ekrolo2 wrote:Only because he couldn't fight Hit all out, if Champa and Beerus agreed to remove the no killing rule, he would've kept going until one of them lost.kinisking wrote: I wouldn't be so sure. Goku did forfeit during the Champa arc.
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If Bergamo is using underhanded tactics like this, he most likely is losing.ekrolo2 wrote:I doubt Goku would've cared about being a pawn if Champa and Beerus gave into his suggestion. Who's he already beaten? Bergamo?kinisking wrote:Didn't he also stop because he didn't want to be a pawn ? well he's one. And you think fighting a person he's pretty much already beaten is more important than lives to him ? Goku's not that bad. The only way I see him not throwing the fight is if it means u7 is going to get destroyed .ekrolo2 wrote: Only because he couldn't fight Hit all out, if Champa and Beerus agreed to remove the no killing rule, he would've kept going until one of them lost.
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Either that or he's trying to preemptively win before the fight even starts by having this condition brought up. His brothers losing would definitely give him pause about his own ability to win, especially since he acknowledged that Goku's a cut above Gohan or Boo.kinisking wrote:If Bergamo is using underhanded tactics like this, he most likely is losing.ekrolo2 wrote:I doubt Goku would've cared about being a pawn if Champa and Beerus gave into his suggestion. Who's he already beaten? Bergamo?kinisking wrote: Didn't he also stop because he didn't want to be a pawn ? well he's one. And you think fighting a person he's pretty much already beaten is more important than lives to him ? Goku's not that bad. The only way I see him not throwing the fight is if it means u7 is going to get destroyed .
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When did he acknowledge that ?ekrolo2 wrote:Either that or he's trying to preemptively win before the fight even starts by having this condition brought up. His brothers losing would definitely give him pause about his own ability to win, especially since he acknowledged that Goku's a cut above Gohan or Boo.kinisking wrote:If Bergamo is using underhanded tactics like this, he most likely is losing.ekrolo2 wrote: I doubt Goku would've cared about being a pawn if Champa and Beerus gave into his suggestion. Who's he already beaten? Bergamo?
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This forum and the community as a whole will lose their minds if Goku purposely beats Bergamo. We never had Goku's morality come into question to this extent in the entire series up till this point.
Toriyama is really trying to rid of the old English Funimation's interpretation of Goku's overall character, in which he was looked at as a hero.
Toriyama is really trying to rid of the old English Funimation's interpretation of Goku's overall character, in which he was looked at as a hero.
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