The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

[TheUltimateNinja]

What if

Cell didn't become dumber the closer he came too perfection?

He'd dodge the Kikoho and absorb 18 prematurely, Vegeta would get fucked.

[ekrolo2]

They don't, it's the opposite. Buu w/ only Piccolo looks quite different from Buu w/ Goten, Trunks and Piccolo. If he could only access their base energy, they'd be many times weaker than Piccolo and thus shouldn't influence him at all, however if he could also draw on their SSJ energy they'd only be around ~50% stronger and thus it'd make sense for him to possess traits from all 3.

You are right about him looking quite a bit more human with the boys and Piccolo together then he is with just Piccolo but the boys still aren't SS when Goku & Vegeta go to rescue them. Unless you assume he can get some but not all of them?

[TheUltimateNinja]

They don't, it's the opposite. Buu w/ only Piccolo looks quite different from Buu w/ Goten, Trunks and Piccolo. If he could only access their base energy, they'd be many times weaker than Piccolo and thus shouldn't influence him at all, however if he could also draw on their SSJ energy they'd only be around ~50% stronger and thus it'd make sense for him to possess traits from all 3.

You are right about him looking quite a bit more human with the boys and Piccolo together then he is with just Piccolo but the boys still aren't SS when Goku & Vegeta go to rescue them. Unless you assume he can get some but not all of them?

I'm assuming he can draw out the maximum power of the people within him, so if he absorbed Vegetto he'd have the power of SSJ2/SSJ3 Vegetto.

[ekrolo2]

They don't, it's the opposite. Buu w/ only Piccolo looks quite different from Buu w/ Goten, Trunks and Piccolo. If he could only access their base energy, they'd be many times weaker than Piccolo and thus shouldn't influence him at all, however if he could also draw on their SSJ energy they'd only be around ~50% stronger and thus it'd make sense for him to possess traits from all 3.

You are right about him looking quite a bit more human with the boys and Piccolo together then he is with just Piccolo but the boys still aren't SS when Goku & Vegeta go to rescue them. Unless you assume he can get some but not all of them?

I'm assuming he can draw out the maximum power of the people within him, so if he absorbed Vegetto he'd have the power of SSJ2/SSJ3 Vegetto.

I suppose that can work, there's certainly nothing that says to the contrary as we don't have an example where he's got a regular Saiyan inside him with no Piccolo to muck things up.

[TheUltimateNinja]

You are right about him looking quite a bit more human with the boys and Piccolo together then he is with just Piccolo but the boys still aren't SS when Goku & Vegeta go to rescue them. Unless you assume he can get some but not all of them?

I'm assuming he can draw out the maximum power of the people within him, so if he absorbed Vegetto he'd have the power of SSJ2/SSJ3 Vegetto.

I suppose that can work, there's certainly nothing that says to the contrary as we don't have an example where he's got a regular Saiyan inside him with no Piccolo to muck things up.

There's none in the original manga, but it's possible in the anime, especially the dub version if you assume fusions have lower SSJ multipliers. In the dub Goku says Buu lost over a third of his power when Gotenks defused, so let's say he ended up at 60% of Buutenks.

You'd end up with something like this:
Piccolo: 25
Goten/Trunks: 0.75 SSJ: 37.5
Gotenks: 100 SSJ: 250 SSJ3: 500
Super Buu: 500
Buutenks: 500 + 500 + 25 = 1,025
Buu (Gotenks defused): 500 + 37.5 + 37.5 + 25 = 600

[Hellspawn28]

What if Paikuhan went with Goku for the 25th Tenkachi Budokai? Before anyone says anything, pretend that the After Life Tenkachi Budokai happen in the manga.

[TheUltimateNinja]

What if Paikuhan went with Goku for the 25th Tenkachi Budokai? Before anyone says anything, pretend that the After Life Tenkachi Budokai happen in the manga.

Buu would kill him.

[Gog]

What if?

Beerus was the god of destruction for universe 9 and Sidra was the god of destruction for universe 7?

[TheUltimateNinja]

What if?

Beerus was the god of destruction for universe 9 and Sidra was the god of destruction for universe 7?

Goku would never discover SSGod, Golden Freeza would win.

[OLKv3]

What if Vegeta got tired of Kaioshin's crap and just nuked Babidi's spaceship, killing all of Babidi's henchmen?

[Hellspawn28]

What if?

Beerus was the god of destruction for universe 9 and Sidra was the god of destruction for universe 7?

Hard to say for sure since we still don't know much about Sidra yet. Going by what we know, he is indecisive. If he had the same dream that Beerus did, he will probably won't blow up the Earth and just leave it unless something pisses him off. Meanwhile Golden Freeza would blow up the Earth and kill everyone. The Champa saga and Future Trunks saga would never happen.

What if Paikuhan went with Goku for the 25th Tenkachi Budokai? Before anyone says anything, pretend that the After Life Tenkachi Budokai happen in the manga.

Buu would kill him.

Would Buu still be awaken? I would imagine Pikuhan would go with Kaioshin and Gohan to stop Babidi and Dabra while Goku is fighting Vegeta. He could kill both Babidi and Dabra before Buu is awaken.

[TheUltimateNinja]

What if Paikuhan went with Goku for the 25th Tenkachi Budokai? Before anyone says anything, pretend that the After Life Tenkachi Budokai happen in the manga.

Buu would kill him.

Would Buu still be awaken? I would imagine Pikuhan would go with Kaioshin and Gohan to stop Babidi and Dabra while Goku is fighting Vegeta. He could kill both Babidi and Dabra before Buu is awaken.

Buu awakened as soon as they got there, Goku and Vegeta gave Buu energy incredibly fast since they were fighting as SSJ2s.

[Vegetail]

What if?

Buuhan could turn Super Saiyan?

He gets weaker because he doesn't have his Potential Unleashed.

What if Vegeta got tired of Kaioshin's crap and just nuked Babidi's spaceship, killing all of Babidi's henchmen?

Either Buu is never revived, or he wakes up early. A coin toss, honestly.

What if Raditz and Nappa were suddenly revived somehow?

[TheUltimateNinja]

What if Goku got the idea of surpassing SSJ in the 3 year gap?

What if Vegeta got tired of Kaioshin's crap and just nuked Babidi's spaceship, killing all of Babidi's henchmen?

Either Buu is never revived, or he wakes up early. A coin toss, honestly.

What if Raditz and Nappa were suddenly revived somehow?

Actually Buu would be revived with only half his power, and at that level he wouldn't be much of a problem for Goku.

Nothing, they're too weak to be relevant.

[Berserker1921]

What-If Cooler, Paikuhan, and Janemba joined the crew? Would this help future events with Beerus, Golden Frieza, U6 tournament, Black Goku, and lastly the Multiverse Tournament?

[Vegetail]

What if Vegeta got tired of Kaioshin's crap and just nuked Babidi's spaceship, killing all of Babidi's henchmen?

Either Buu is never revived, or he wakes up early. A coin toss, honestly.

What if Raditz and Nappa were suddenly revived somehow?

Actually Buu would be revived with only half his power, and at that level he wouldn't be much of a problem for Goku.

Nothing, they're too weak to be relevant.

Ah, right, right.

Refining my prior scenario: What if Raditz and Nappa's hypothetical return was in one of those slice of life kind of episodes?

[TheUltimateNinja]

Either Buu is never revived, or he wakes up early. A coin toss, honestly.

What if Raditz and Nappa were suddenly revived somehow?

Actually Buu would be revived with only half his power, and at that level he wouldn't be much of a problem for Goku.

Nothing, they're too weak to be relevant.

Ah, right, right.

Refining my prior scenario: What if Raditz and Nappa's hypothetical return was in one of those slice of life kind of episodes?

I guess it would be kind like the Abo & Cado ordeal, they'd try to stir up trouble but would accomplish nothing.

[Gog]

What if?

Instead of Freeza coming too Namek it was Coola?

[TheUltimateNinja]

What if?

Instead of Freeza coming too Namek it was Coola?

He would win.

[Gog]

What if?

Instead of Freeza coming too Namek it was Coola?

He would win.

Be a bit more detailed!

Anyway new what if scenario

What If

Chilled was capable of transforming?