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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by dragonball0900 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:06 am

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TheUltimateNinja wrote:What kind of gap do you guys have between Initial Perfect Cell and Grade 2 Vegeta?
Well to be fair, this gap between their powers (and the one with Android 16 and Semi Perfect Cell) is the one that initially prevented me to make the Buu arc/BOG arc base saiyans below Frieza. Although now I managed to fit everything. I have the gap between ASSJ Vegeta and Initial Perfect Cell like a 1.2 of difference, slightly above 15% of difference (with the one with Android 16 and Semi Perfect Cell like a 1.5, somewhere above 30% of difference).

Here are my power levels:

Android 16 - 540,000,000

Semi Perfect Cell - 825,000,000

ASSJ Vegeta - 1,125,000,000

Initial Perfect Cell - 1,350,000,000
Where does Cell get that power from, though? Shouldn't he just be Semi Perfect Cell + 18?
Making Cell + 18 is just too small of a boost, given what we see from ASSJ Vegeta and how he humiliated Semi Perfect Cell, and in turn Initial Perfect Cell humiliated ASSJ Vegeta. I tried using the Cell + Androids formula, but it just got me to the problem with Frieza and the BOG Base Saiyans so I just had to go with what I managed to have.

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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:35 am

What kind of gap do you have between Goku and Pre-Majin Vegeta? Vegeta said the gap hadn't changed so I'm thinking maybe Goku is still almost twice as strong.

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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:54 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:What kind of gap do you have between Goku and Pre-Majin Vegeta? Vegeta said the gap hadn't changed so I'm thinking maybe Goku is still almost twice as strong.
That seems excessive. I have SS2 Vegeta at 7.5 billion and Goku at 9 billion.
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:56 am

DanielSSJ wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:What kind of gap do you have between Goku and Pre-Majin Vegeta? Vegeta said the gap hadn't changed so I'm thinking maybe Goku is still almost twice as strong.
That seems excessive. I have SS2 Vegeta at 7.5 billion and Goku at 9 billion.
Would Vegeta really sell his soul to Babidi over a 20% gap?

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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by Noah » Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:20 am

The gr wrote:I'm not liking the fact that people downplay the human character way too much,I mean what a power 20,000 that pathetic,I mean Krillin,yamcha and Tien are above that level in the artificial human saga ,and Krillin should not be around that level in the frieza fight.
    and why people ignore Tien in the buu saga
    Yea, I don't like it either. Like someone could even think them being low 50,000 in the Android arc could be useful for something? :lol:
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    Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:25 am

    TheUltimateNinja wrote:Would Vegeta really sell his soul to Babidi over a 20% gap?
    If it would put him on even terms with Kakarott, hell yes he would.
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    Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

    Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:26 am

    Noah wrote:
    The gr wrote:I'm not liking the fact that people downplay the human character way too much,I mean what a power 20,000 that pathetic,I mean Krillin,yamcha and Tien are above that level in the artificial human saga ,and Krillin should not be around that level in the frieza fight.
      and why people ignore Tien in the buu saga
      Yea, I don't like it either. Like someone could even think them being low 50,000 in the Android arc could be useful for something? :lol:
      They never did anything useful combat wise, in fact the only thing they did in the Cell arc was use up senzus.

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      Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

      Post by Noah » Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:36 am

      TheUltimateNinja wrote:They never did anything useful combat wise, in fact the only thing they did in the Cell arc was use up senzus.
      Don't know if this an anime only scene: Dr. Gero aka #20 who had previously absorbed SSJ Vegeta blast stomped Krillin, many think he and #19 were way above Freeza, shouldn't Krillin be dead then? And how would low 50,000 Tien's Kikoho be useful against low billions BP Semi Perfect Cell?
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      Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

      Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Feb 26, 2017 3:29 am

      Noah wrote:Don't know if this an anime only scene: Dr. Gero aka #20 who had previously absorbed SSJ Vegeta blast stomped Krillin, many think he and #19 were way above Freeza, shouldn't Krillin be dead then? And how would low 50,000 Tien's Kikoho be useful against low billions BP Semi Perfect Cell?
      All the Kikoho did was shove Cell around. It didn't actually hurt him. Though 50,000 seems a little low for Tenshinhan. I'd say that he's at least 100,000.
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      Post by emperior » Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:29 am

      Here's my list once again. I updated it based on feedbacks, but there might still be errors so please tell me if you spot some! I aim to have a list as accurate as possible for DBZ, one who almost everyone can agree with. Then I will do a DBS list continuing this one.
      Notable changes are: Earthlings' levels post-Freezer, I also upped the general level of the androids arc, upped Gotenks' first power level (he is stronger than Majin Buu, which is on line with Goku believing the kids could do it with the fusion) and also upped the kids levels during the tournament.
      About Cell Games, in order not to increase the levels too much, I have SSJ Goku being 2 times stronger than the SSJ version of Vegeta pre-2nd Rosat trip, and not 2 times stronger than his Grade 2 form.
      During Buu arc, I upped Goku, and Vegeta pre-Majin is at Cell Games Goku level. He then decides to get controlled once he sees Goku too is a SSJ2, and the power increases Babidi gives him is now quite significant (+1 billion). Vegetto as a consequence is stronger than before.
      Overall, I'm quite satisfied with the actual state of the list. You might still spot some flaws, but it should definitely be much better than before.


      Multipliers
      Oozaru - 10x base
      SSJ - 50x Base
      SSJ2 - 100x Base
      SSJ3 - 400x Base

      Fusions
      Dance = [(A+B)] x 5
      Potara = [(A+B)] x ???

      Dragon Ball Minus

      [spoiler]Jaco - 150
      Bardock - 2,500
      Gine - 1,000

      Bardock (Last Stand) - 10,000[/spoiler]

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      Raditz Arc

      [spoiler]Goku
      Weighted - 334
      Full Power - 416

      Piccolo
      Weighted - 322
      Full Power - 408

      Gohan
      Base - 1
      Anger - 1,307+

      Raditz - 1,500

      Master Roshi - 139
      Krillin - 206
      Tenshinan - 250[/spoiler]


      Saiyan Arc

      [spoiler]Goku
      Suppressed - 5,000
      Base - 8000
      Kaioken x2 - 16,000
      Kaioken x3 - 24,000
      Kaioken x4 - 32,000

      Gohan
      Base - 980
      Angered - 2700

      Piccolo - 2,500
      Krillin - 1,770
      Yamcha - 1,480
      Tenshinan - 1,830
      Yajirobe - 970
      Chiaotzu - 610

      Saibamen - 1,200

      Nappa - 4,000

      Vegeta
      Base - 18,000
      Great Ape Full Power - 180,000
      Great Ape - 60,000[/spoiler]


      Namek Arc

      [spoiler]Goku (Arrival)
      Suppressed - 5,000
      Base - 90,000
      Kaioken vs Ginyu - 120,000
      Kaioken x2 - 180,000

      Krillin (Power unlocked) - 12,000
      Gohan (Power unlocked) - 15,000
      Nail - 42,000
      Namekian Warriors - 3,000

      Vegeta
      Base - 24,000
      Zenkai - 30,000
      2nd Zenkai - 60,000

      Cui - 18,000
      Dodoria - 22,000

      Zarbon
      Base - 23,000
      Transformed - 32,000

      Recoome - 40,000
      Burter - 40,000
      Jeice - 40,000
      Guldo - 10,000
      Captain Ginyu - 120,000
      Ginyu in Goku’s body - 23,000[/spoiler]


      Freezer Arc

      [spoiler]Goku (Zenkai)
      Base - 3,000,000
      Kaioken x10 - 30,000,000
      Kaioken x20 - 60,000,000
      Super Saiyan - 150,000,000

      Krillin - 75,000+

      Gohan (Zenkai)
      Base - 200,000+
      Angry - 1,000,000
      Angry 2 - 2,000,000

      Piccolo (Nail) - 1,200,000

      Vegeta
      Base - 480,000
      Zenkai - 2,500,000

      Freezer
      1st form - 530,000
      2nd form - 1,090,000
      3rd form - 2,120,000
      Final Form (50%) - 60,000,000
      Final Form - 100,000,000
      Final Form (100%) - 120,000,000[/spoiler]


      Trunks Arc

      [spoiler]Mecha Freezer (Suppressed) - 105,000,000

      King Cold - 100,000,000

      King Cold's soldiers - Average of 1,000

      Future Trunks
      Base - 3,400,000
      SSJ - 170,000,000

      Goku
      Base - 3,600,000
      SSJ - 180,000,000

      Vegeta - 3,000,000
      Piccolo - 3,000,000
      Gohan - 500,000
      Krillin - 250,000
      Tenshinhan - 60,000
      Yamcha - 50,000[/spoiler]

      Androids Arc

      [spoiler]Goku
      Base - 4,000,000
      SSJ - 200,000,000
      SSJ (Heart Virus) - 150,000,000 (Dropping)

      Vegeta
      Base - 4,200,000
      SSJ - 210,000,000

      Future Trunks
      Base - 3,600,000
      SSJ - 180,000,000

      Piccolo - 180,000,000

      Gohan - 3,000,000
      Tenshinhan - 1,000,000
      Krillin - 1,200,000
      Yamcha - 900,000

      #19 - 120,000,000
      Dr. Gero - 130,000,000

      #18 - 340,000,000
      #17 - 360,000,000[/spoiler]


      Cell Arc

      [spoiler]Piccolo (Kami)
      Full Power - 360,000,000
      Worn Out - 290,000,000

      Android 16 - 420,000,000

      Cell
      Imperfect - 250,000,000
      Humans Absorbed - 420,000,000
      Semi-Perfect - 760,000,000
      Perfect (Suppressed)- 950,000,000

      Vegeta
      Base - 15,000,000
      SSJ - 750,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 90%)
      SSJ Grade 2 - 850,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 80%)

      Trunks
      Base - 14,500,000
      SSJ - 725,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 90%)
      SSJ Grade 2 - 825,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 80%)
      SSJ Grade 3 - 1,025,000,000 (Speed = 80%, Stamina = 80%)[/spoiler]


      Cell Games

      [spoiler]Goku
      Base - 30,000,000
      FPSSJ - 1,500,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 100%)

      Gohan
      Base - 35,000,000
      FPSSJ - 1,750,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 100%)
      SSJ2 - 3,500,000,000
      Wounded - 3,000,000,000
      Father-Son Kamehameha - 5,000,000,000

      Perfect Cell
      vs Goku - 1,500,000,000
      vs Gohan - 1,800,000,000
      Full Power - 2,500,000,000
      Super Perfect - 3,500,000,000

      Cell Jr - 1,000,000,000

      Vegeta
      Base - 20,000,000
      SSJ - 1,000,000,000

      Trunks
      Base - 19,000,000
      SSJ - 950,000,000

      Piccolo - 900,000,000[/spoiler]


      The Future

      [spoiler]Future #17- 320,000,000
      Future #18- 300,000,000

      Future Gohan
      Base - 3,200,000
      SSJ - 160,000,000

      Trunks (Post Cell Games)
      Base - 19,000,000
      SSJ - 950,000,000
      3 years later - 24,000,000
      SSJ - 1,200,000,000

      Future Cell- 250,000,000[/spoiler]


      Babidi Arc

      [spoiler]Gohan
      Base - 25,000,000
      SSJ - 1,250,000,000

      Post Training - 30,000,000
      FPSSJ - 1,500,000,000
      SSJ2 - 3,000,000,000

      Goten
      Base - 9,000,000
      FPSSJ - 450,000,000
      Post Training - 14,000,000
      FPSSJ - 700,000,000

      Trunks
      Base - 10,000,000
      FPSSJ - 500,000,000
      Post Training - 15,000,000
      FPSSJ - 750,000,000

      Goku
      Base - 40,000,000
      SSJ - 2,000,000,000
      SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000
      SSJ3 Full Power - 16,000,000,000

      Vegeta
      Base - 30,000,000
      SSJ - 1,500,000,000
      SSJ2 - 3,000,000,000
      Majin Vegeta - 4,000,000,000

      Krillin - 1,000,000
      #18 - 350,000,000

      Piccolo - 1,000,000,000
      Kaioshin- 1,200,000,000
      Kibito - 30,000,000

      Pui-Pui - 100,000
      Yakon - 35,000,000
      Dabura - 2,500,000,000

      Majin Buu - 6,000,000,000

      Gotenks
      Base - 140,000,000
      SSJ - 7,000,000,000[/spoiler]


      Buu Arc

      [spoiler]Goten - 20,000,000
      Trunks - 20,000,000

      Gotenks
      Base - 200,000,000
      SSJ - 10,000,000,000
      SSJ3 - 20,000,000,000

      (Gotenks’ SSJ3 multiplier is 100x)

      Gohan (Ultimate) - 25,000,000,000

      Super Buu - 18,000,000,000
      Buutenks - 38,000,000,000
      Buuhan - 44,000,000,000

      Kibitoshin - 2,460,000,000
      (Potara multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 2)

      Vegetto
      Base - 1,200,000,000
      SSJ - 60,000,000,000
      (Potara multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 15)

      Kid Buu - 12,000,000,000

      Vegeta
      Base - 40,000,000
      SSJ - 2,000,000,000
      SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000

      Goku
      Base - 40,000,000
      SSJ - 2,000,000,000
      SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000
      SSJ3 - 12,000,000,000
      SSJ3 (Full Power) - 16,000,000,000[/spoiler]
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      Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

      Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:00 am

      emperior wrote:Here's my list once again. I updated it based on feedbacks, but there might still be errors so please tell me if you spot some! I aim to have a list as accurate as possible for DBZ, one who almost everyone can agree with. Then I will do a DBS list continuing this one.
      Notable changes are: Earthlings' levels post-Freezer, I also upped the general level of the androids arc, upped Gotenks' first power level (he is stronger than Majin Buu, which is on line with Goku believing the kids could do it with the fusion) and also upped the kids levels during the tournament.
      About Cell Games, in order not to increase the levels too much, I have SSJ Goku being 2 times stronger than the SSJ version of Vegeta pre-2nd Rosat trip, and not 2 times stronger than his Grade 2 form.
      During Buu arc, I upped Goku, and Vegeta pre-Majin is at Cell Games Goku level. He then decides to get controlled once he sees Goku too is a SSJ2, and the power increases Babidi gives him is now quite significant (+1 billion). Vegetto as a consequence is stronger than before.
      Overall, I'm quite satisfied with the actual state of the list. You might still spot some flaws, but it should definitely be much better than before.
      Huge improvement! This actually looks pretty good. There are a few points that I personally don't agree with, but none of it is outright wrong.

      One thing that stuck out to me. In the Saiyan arc, Gohan's rage-boosted state was at 2,800, not 2,700, like you listed. Also, I'd bump up Gotenks' Super Saiyan 3 boost. Even if he can't access the full 400 fold increase due to lack of training, he should be able to put out more power than a Super Saiyan 2. Maybe make it a 200 fold boost or something.
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      Post by DBZ Macky » Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:48 am

      EXPLAINING THE PORTRAYAL OF THE EARTHLINGS IN THE ANIME AND SUPER; MY INTERPRETATION OF THEIR POWER
      The thing about the Earthlings' power is that the only notable power gains they'd make would have to be from training at Kaio's or the potential unlock from the Namekian Elder. They can't make much gains just from normal training. But since we know nothing of their training, I think a little "head-canon" explanation is completely justified.

      We have next to no power comparison for them in the Manga, so I'd say it's best to take filler as gospel for the humans. I'll take Anime-exclusive scenes into consideration for what they're worth. The "canon" material is being pulled out every week by the same people who made that stuff, so as long as filler doesn't contradict anything, I'll take it into consideration.

      We already have Kuririn's official battle power of 75,000. But that's just for the beginning of the Freeza fight. His power was said to be rising, so for all we know, he might have gotten much stronger. Though we have nothing indicating that he surpassed the 1,000,000 mark, nothing indicates that Gohan and Kuririn didn't surpass it either. Yamcha is able to take out Reacoom almost as easily as Goku while Chiaotzu is able to take out Ghurd and Tenshinhan is able to fight Jheese and Butta evenly while using the Multi-Form technique that splits his power in half. Tenshinhan is still the strongest, for now. And that's just the beginning of their training.

      Kuririn (Vs. First Form Freeza)- 75,000
      Tenshinhan (Vs. Ginyu Force)- 85,000
      Yamcha (Vs. Ginyu Force)- 60,000
      Chiaotzu (Vs. Ginyu Force)- 17,000
      Ghurd- 10,000
      Reacoom- 40,000
      Jheese- 42,000
      Butta- 43,000

      Piccolo was doing (somewhat) well against True Form Freeza after Gohan and Kuririn gave him their energy. He was certainly performing better than Vegeta. The power combining stuff is really plot-induced most of the time, but I think it certainly could be simple addition this time around. So Gohan and Kuririn's power levels can be interpreted as being near a million for the later portion of the fight.

      Piccolo- 1,200,000,000
      +Gohan & Kuririn's Ki- 2,750,000,000
      Vegeta- 2,400,000,000
      Gohan- 800,000
      Enraged- 1,600,000
      Kuririn- 750,000

      When Freeza becomes a cyborg and brings his daddy to Earth, the Earthlings are scared shitless even in the Anime. Needless to say, even heavily suppressed, Freeza is still way stronger than the Earthlings. Kuririn's unlock boost puts him above Tenshinhan and co. who have become insanely stronger thanks to training on Kaio's planet in a way that compromises learning the Kaio-Ken for better gains. Teshinhan does mention training differently, so this is not too much of a stretch.
      Mecha-Freeza- 2,700,000
      Full Power- 135,000,000
      Kuririn- 1,500,000
      Tenshinhan- 1,200,000
      Yamcha- 900,000
      Chiaotzu- 200,000

      Alright, in only three years, two foes even greater than Freeza will appear. They've been told to only come at the battlefield if they are confident in their abilities. It's all-or-nothing, so some dire training methods won't hurt anyone. Tenshinhan and Kuririn train using the multi-form technique to make sparring partners for themselves and make incredible gains. Chiaotzu also trains with Ten, but isn't able to make good enough gains because of the large power difference between them. He doesn't even surpass the 1 million mark and Ten decides that it would be best if he doesn't come.
      Yamcha has Bulma's gravity machine at his disposal. It's fair to assume that he used the machine but trained at a lower gravity than Vegeta. They still didn't get strong enough to face the androids, but they still powered up enough to feel confident that they could at least support Goku and co.
      Tenshinhan learnt the Shin-Kikoho but it was still an incomplete technique.

      Kuririn- 2,400,000
      Tenshinhan- 2,100,000
      Yamcha- 1,800,000
      Chiaotzu- 700,000

      Tenshinhan fights on par with Post RoSaT Base Trunks in the Bojack movie, so he made incredible gains before the Cell Games. How do you explain this when he rejects the idea of training in the RoSaT so that Vegeta and co. can use it? IMO With 4 days left until the Cell Games, Yamcha and Kuririn decide to train in there for 2 days after seeing how strong Goku and co. had become. Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu also follow suit anyways and train for the remaining 2 days. They make incredible gains but are still below the Base Saiyans, not to mention that they stand no chance against Cell. They decide not to participate in the games themselves but still show up there anyways... except for Chiaotzu.

      Kuririn- 15,000,000
      Tenshinhan- 12,600,000
      Yamcha- 12,000,000
      [Yamcha is the Earthling with the most potential. He caught up to Kuririn in no time when he did the same training as him for the 22nd Budokai. He can surpass Tenshinhan quite easily. He just doesn't train as hard as him.]
      Chiaotzu- 4,000,000

      After Goku's death, Kuririn and Yamcha give up on fighting. Luckily for me, it isn't specified exactly when they quit training. Kuririn gets married with Android #18 and lives with Kame-sennin while Yamcha settles in West City. In my scenario, Kame-sennin is worried that with Goku gone, both Yamcha and Kuririn will get complacent and stop training. His fears turn out to be true when he notices Kuririn training less and less everyday. He confronts Kuririn and motivates him to get stronger, to protect the ones that he holds dear. Kuririn leaves for West City and asks Bulma to let them use the Gravity chamber.

      Bulma tells her that she has already made another one for Vegeta and that Kuririn can take the older model for himself. Kuririn takes the capsule and meets Yamcha on his way back. He explains the situation to him and invites him to an island a few miles away from Kame House. Kuririn and Yamcha spar in the chamber for a couple hours on the island everyday in the morning.

      About 5 years later, Yamcha tells Kuririn that he's really not interested in training and tells him that he's still working on overcoming his nervousness around girls. He stops coming to Kame House and starts work at a host club... before he's fired. He later works as a freelance bodyguard and occasionally goes to Tenshinhan’s to help with the farm, as well. Kuririn, likewise, gives up on fighting too and stops shaving his head.

      Even Kame-sennin trains secretly at Kame House when Kuririn is away.

      Tenshinhan on the other hand, continues his mountain training and implements the multi-form technique to make the best gains he's ever made. He trains hard with Chiaotzu for 5 and even masters the Kikoho. Tenshinhan is satisfied with his training and tones it down a bit. He also starts to work in a farm in addition to his training.

      This would be the Earthlings' absolute prime and their levels in DB Super. Both Kuririn and Yamcha might have gotten rusty and lost some power, but not by a considerable amount. Likewise, Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu might have gotten a little stronger, but not by a considerable amount. They already hit and went beyond their limits a long time ago.

      Kuririn- 45,000,000
      Tenshinhan- 42,000,000
      Yamcha- 38,000,000
      Chiaotzu- 14,000,000

      The five years of training help Yamcha to kick Olibu's butt in the afterlife. Paikuuhan was busy searching for Freeza who had been released from his cocoon by Cell once again. In their absence, Kuririn and Yamcha were the strongest in the afterlife!
      Tenshinhan's gains are enough for him to repel a blast from Majin Boo with his Kikoho while Chiaotzu has improved himself enough to hold Base Goku with his paralysis techniques.

      Wow, that was longer than expected. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated! :thumbup:
      I used to put the Earthlings below 1st Form Freeza, but I can certainly accept the bone that has been thrown to them by Toei.
      They feel confident on facing Base Goku in the Anime and that'll most definitely continue in Super. So this definitely makes sense to me.
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      Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

      Post by emperior » Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:03 am

      DanielSSJ wrote:
      emperior wrote:Here's my list once again. I updated it based on feedbacks, but there might still be errors so please tell me if you spot some! I aim to have a list as accurate as possible for DBZ, one who almost everyone can agree with. Then I will do a DBS list continuing this one.
      Notable changes are: Earthlings' levels post-Freezer, I also upped the general level of the androids arc, upped Gotenks' first power level (he is stronger than Majin Buu, which is on line with Goku believing the kids could do it with the fusion) and also upped the kids levels during the tournament.
      About Cell Games, in order not to increase the levels too much, I have SSJ Goku being 2 times stronger than the SSJ version of Vegeta pre-2nd Rosat trip, and not 2 times stronger than his Grade 2 form.
      During Buu arc, I upped Goku, and Vegeta pre-Majin is at Cell Games Goku level. He then decides to get controlled once he sees Goku too is a SSJ2, and the power increases Babidi gives him is now quite significant (+1 billion). Vegetto as a consequence is stronger than before.
      Overall, I'm quite satisfied with the actual state of the list. You might still spot some flaws, but it should definitely be much better than before.
      Huge improvement! This actually looks pretty good. There are a few points that I personally don't agree with, but none of it is outright wrong.

      One thing that stuck out to me. In the Saiyan arc, Gohan's rage-boosted state was at 2,800, not 2,700, like you listed. Also, I'd bump up Gotenks' Super Saiyan 3 boost. Even if he can't access the full 400 fold increase due to lack of training, he should be able to put out more power than a Super Saiyan 2. Maybe make it a 200 fold boost or something.
      Thanks!
      I'll change Gohan's power. As for Gotenks, as much as I would like to give him a better boost for Super Saiyan 3, it would mess up my power levels (a thing I like is Super Buu being 3x Fat Buu, and Kid Buu being 2x Fat Buu) and, with Super in mind, I decided to make the boost a mere 100x, but I would rather make it 200x. I just assume Gotenks achieved a SSJ2 like SSJ3, and that's why his eyes are different from Goku's when in the same form (no black pupil). When Goku is revived thanks to Old Kai, is Super Saiyan 3 isn't full power too. In my list, his boost is 300x (12 bilions)
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      Post by emperior » Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:54 am

      Multipliers
      Oozaru - 10x base
      SSJ - 50x Base
      SSJ2 - 100x Base
      SSJ3 - 400x Base

      Fusions
      Dance = [(A+B)] x 5
      Potara = [(A+B)] x ???

      Dragon Ball Minus

      [spoiler]Jaco - 150
      Bardock - 2,500
      Gine - 1,000

      Bardock (Last Stand) - 10,000[/spoiler]


      Dragon Ball Z


      Raditz Arc

      [spoiler]Goku
      Weighted - 334
      Full Power - 416

      Piccolo
      Weighted - 322
      Full Power - 408

      Gohan
      Base - 1
      Anger - 1,307+

      Raditz - 1,500

      Master Roshi - 139
      Krillin - 206
      Tenshinan - 250[/spoiler]


      Saiyan Arc

      [spoiler]Goku
      Suppressed - 5,000
      Base - 8000
      Kaioken x2 - 16,000
      Kaioken x3 - 24,000
      Kaioken x4 - 32,000

      Gohan
      Base - 980
      Angered - 2,800

      Piccolo - 2,500
      Krillin - 1,770
      Yamcha - 1,480
      Tenshinan - 1,830
      Yajirobe - 970
      Chiaotzu - 610

      Saibamen - 1,200

      Nappa - 4,000

      Vegeta
      Base - 18,000
      Great Ape Full Power - 180,000
      Great Ape - 60,000[/spoiler]


      Namek Arc

      [spoiler]Goku (Arrival)
      Suppressed - 5,000
      Base - 90,000
      Kaioken vs Ginyu - 120,000
      Kaioken x2 - 180,000

      Krillin (Power unlocked) - 12,000
      Gohan (Power unlocked) - 15,000
      Nail - 42,000
      Namekian Warriors - 3,000

      Vegeta
      Base - 24,000
      Zenkai - 30,000
      2nd Zenkai - 60,000

      Cui - 18,000
      Dodoria - 22,000

      Zarbon
      Base - 23,000
      Transformed - 32,000

      Recoome - 40,000
      Burter - 40,000
      Jeice - 40,000
      Guldo - 10,000
      Captain Ginyu - 120,000
      Ginyu in Goku’s body - 23,000[/spoiler]


      Freezer Arc

      [spoiler]Goku (Zenkai)
      Base - 3,000,000
      Kaioken x10 - 30,000,000
      Kaioken x20 - 60,000,000
      Super Saiyan - 150,000,000

      Krillin - 75,000+

      Gohan (Zenkai)
      Base - 200,000+
      Angry - 1,000,000
      Angry 2 - 2,000,000

      Piccolo (Nail) - 1,200,000

      Vegeta
      Base - 480,000
      Zenkai - 2,500,000

      Freezer
      1st form - 530,000
      2nd form - 1,090,000
      3rd form - 2,120,000
      Final Form (50%) - 60,000,000
      Final Form - 100,000,000
      Final Form (100%) - 120,000,000[/spoiler]


      Trunks Arc

      [spoiler]Mecha Freezer (Suppressed) - 105,000,000

      King Cold - 100,000,000

      King Cold's soldiers - Average of 1,000

      Future Trunks
      Base - 3,400,000
      SSJ - 170,000,000

      Goku
      Base - 3,600,000
      SSJ - 180,000,000

      Vegeta - 3,000,000
      Piccolo - 3,000,000
      Gohan - 500,000
      Krillin - 250,000
      Tenshinhan - 60,000
      Yamcha - 50,000[/spoiler]

      Androids Arc

      [spoiler]Goku
      Base - 4,000,000
      SSJ - 200,000,000
      SSJ (Heart Virus) - 150,000,000 (Dropping)

      Vegeta
      Base - 4,200,000
      SSJ - 210,000,000

      Future Trunks
      Base - 3,600,000
      SSJ - 180,000,000

      Piccolo - 180,000,000

      Gohan - 3,000,000
      Tenshinhan - 1,000,000
      Krillin - 1,200,000
      Yamcha - 900,000

      #19 - 120,000,000
      Dr. Gero - 130,000,000

      #18 - 340,000,000
      #17 - 360,000,000[/spoiler]


      Cell Arc

      [spoiler]Piccolo (Kami)
      Full Power - 360,000,000
      Worn Out - 290,000,000

      Android 16 - 420,000,000

      Cell
      Imperfect - 250,000,000
      Humans Absorbed - 420,000,000
      Semi-Perfect - 760,000,000
      Perfect (Suppressed)- 950,000,000

      Vegeta
      Base - 15,000,000
      SSJ - 750,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 90%)
      SSJ Grade 2 - 850,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 80%)

      Trunks
      Base - 14,500,000
      SSJ - 725,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 90%)
      SSJ Grade 2 - 825,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 80%)
      SSJ Grade 3 - 1,025,000,000 (Speed = 80%, Stamina = 80%)[/spoiler]


      Cell Games

      [spoiler]Goku
      Base - 30,000,000
      FPSSJ - 1,500,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 100%)

      Gohan
      Base - 35,000,000
      FPSSJ - 1,750,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 100%)
      SSJ2 - 3,500,000,000
      Wounded - 3,000,000,000
      Father-Son Kamehameha - 5,000,000,000

      Perfect Cell
      vs Goku - 1,500,000,000
      vs Gohan - 1,800,000,000
      Full Power - 2,500,000,000
      Super Perfect - 3,500,000,000

      Cell Jr - 1,000,000,000

      Vegeta
      Base - 20,000,000
      SSJ - 1,000,000,000

      Trunks
      Base - 19,000,000
      SSJ - 950,000,000

      Piccolo - 900,000,000[/spoiler]


      The Future

      [spoiler]Future #17- 320,000,000
      Future #18- 300,000,000

      Future Gohan
      Base - 3,200,000
      SSJ - 160,000,000

      Trunks (Post Cell Games)
      Base - 19,000,000
      SSJ - 950,000,000
      3 years later - 24,000,000
      SSJ - 1,200,000,000

      Future Cell- 250,000,000[/spoiler]


      Babidi Arc

      [spoiler]Gohan
      Base - 25,000,000
      SSJ - 1,250,000,000

      Post Training - 30,000,000
      FPSSJ - 1,500,000,000
      SSJ2 - 3,000,000,000

      Goten
      Base - 9,000,000
      FPSSJ - 450,000,000
      Post Training - 14,000,000
      FPSSJ - 700,000,000

      Trunks
      Base - 10,000,000
      FPSSJ - 500,000,000
      Post Training - 15,000,000
      FPSSJ - 750,000,000

      Goku
      Base - 40,000,000
      SSJ - 2,000,000,000
      SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000
      SSJ3 Full Power - 16,000,000,000

      Vegeta
      Base - 30,000,000
      SSJ - 1,500,000,000
      SSJ2 - 3,000,000,000
      Majin Vegeta - 4,000,000,000

      Krillin - 1,000,000
      #18 - 350,000,000

      Piccolo - 1,000,000,000
      Kaioshin- 1,200,000,000
      Kibito - 30,000,000

      Pui-Pui - 100,000
      Yakon - 35,000,000
      Dabura - 2,500,000,000

      Majin Buu - 6,000,000,000

      Gotenks
      Base - 140,000,000
      SSJ - 7,000,000,000[/spoiler]


      Buu Arc

      [spoiler]Goten - 20,000,000
      Trunks - 20,000,000

      Gotenks
      Base - 200,000,000
      SSJ - 10,000,000,000
      SSJ3 - 20,000,000,000

      (Gotenks’ SSJ3 multiplier is 100x)

      Gohan (Ultimate) - 25,000,000,000

      Super Buu - 18,000,000,000
      Buutenks - 38,000,000,000
      Buuhan - 44,000,000,000

      Kibitoshin - 2,460,000,000
      (Potara multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 2)

      Vegetto
      Base - 1,200,000,000
      SSJ - 60,000,000,000
      (Potara multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 15)

      Kid Buu - 12,000,000,000

      Vegeta
      Base - 40,000,000
      SSJ - 2,000,000,000
      SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000

      Goku
      Base - 40,000,000
      SSJ - 2,000,000,000
      SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000
      SSJ3 - 12,000,000,000
      SSJ3 (Full Power) - 16,000,000,000[/spoiler]


      Dragon Ball Super


      Battle of Gods Arc

      [spoiler]Goku
      Base - 50,000,000
      SSJ - 2,500,000,000
      SSJ2 - 5,000,000,000
      SSJ3 - 15,000,000,000
      SSG - 500,000,000,000

      Vegeta
      Base - 45,000,000
      SSJ - 2,250,000,000
      SSJ2 - 4,500,000,000
      SSJ2 Enraged - 45,000,000,000

      Gohan
      Base - 20,000,000
      SSJ - 1,000,000,000
      Ultimate - 10,000,000,000

      Majin Buu - 6,000,000,000

      #18 - 350,000,000

      Beerus
      10% (Suppressed) - 50,000,000,000
      100% (Suppressed) - 500,000,000,000
      True Power - ? (1000)

      Whis
      True Power - ? (1500)[/spoiler]


      Resurrection of Freezer Arc

      [spoiler]Goku
      Base - 120,000,000
      God Ki - 12,000,000,000
      SSB - 600,000,000,000

      Vegeta
      Base - 120,000,000
      God Ki - 12,000,000,000
      SSB - 600,000,000,000

      (Super Saiyan Blue is 50x their God Ki base)

      Freezer
      1st Form - 1,300,000,000
      4th Form - 15,000,000,000
      Golden - 750,000,000,000
      Exhausted - 375,000,000,000 (Dropping)

      (Golden Form is 50x of Freezer's 4th form)

      Gohan
      Base - 20,000,000
      SSJ - 1,000,000,000

      Freezer's Soldiers - Average of 100

      Piccolo - 950,000,000
      Tenshinan - 1,500,000
      Krillin - 1,000,000
      Master Roshi - 300
      Jaco- 150[/spoiler]


      Champa Tournament Arc

      U7

      [spoiler]Whis - ? (1500)

      Beerus - ? (1000)

      Goku
      Base - 150,000,000
      SSJ - 7,500,000,000
      SSB - 750,000,000,000
      SSB + KKx2 - 1,500,000,000,000
      SSB + KKx10 - 7,500,000,000,000

      Vegeta

      Base - 150,000,000
      SSJ - 7,500,000,000
      SSB - 750,000,000,000

      Piccolo - 1,000,000,000

      Majin Buu - 6,000,000,000

      Monaka - 1[/spoiler]

      U6

      [spoiler]Vados - ? (1501)

      Champa - ? (999)

      Botamo - 30,000,000

      Frost
      1st Form - 26,000,000
      Assault Form - 104,000,000
      Final Form - 3,000,000,000

      Otto Magetta - 10,000,000,000

      Cabba
      Base - 50,000,000
      SSJ - 2,500,000,000

      Hit - ???[/spoiler]


      Future Trunks Arc


      Present

      [spoiler]Future Trunks
      Base - 150,000,000
      SSJ2 - 15,000,000,000

      Black
      Full Power - 25,000,000,000
      vs Goku - 15,000,000,000

      Goku
      Base - 150,000,000
      SSJ2 - 15,000,000,000
      SSJ3 vs Trunks - 20,000,000,000
      SSJ3 Full Power - 45,000,000,000

      Zamasu - 10,000,000,000[/spoiler]

      Future

      [spoiler]Future Trunks (Post Training)
      Base - 150,000,000
      FPSSJ2 - 600,000,000,000
      Super Trunks - 1,200,000,000,000

      Vegeta
      Base - 150,000,000
      SSB - 750,000,000,000

      Goku
      Base - 150,000,000
      SSB - 750,000,000,000
      SSB (Rage) - 1,200,000,000,000

      Vegeta (Rage + Training)
      Base - 300,000,000
      SSB - 1,500,000,000,000

      Black
      Base - 25,000,000,000
      SSR - 1,000,000,000,000
      SSR Full Power - 1,250,000,000,000
      SSR (Scythe) - 1,500,000,000,000

      (Black is quite tricky. He never shows his full SSR power before Vegeta beats him after his training)

      Future Zamasu - 600,000,000,000

      Fusions

      Goku
      Base - 250,000,000
      SSB - 1,250,000,000,000
      SSB + KKx4 - 3,750,000,000
      SSB + KKx10 - 12,500,000,000,000

      Vegeta
      Base - 300,000,000
      SSB - 1,500,000,000,000

      Future Trunks (Rage)
      Base - 150,000,000
      Super Trunks - 1,500,000,000,000

      Merged Zamasu
      Halo - 3,500,000,000,000
      Full Power - 56,000,000,000,000
      Giant Form - 42,000,000,000,000 (Decreasing)
      (When he has the Halo, Zamasu is using 1/16 of his power. His power starts to rapidly decrease after Vegetto lands the Final Kamehameha)

      Vegetto
      Base - 11,000,000,000
      SSB - 55,000,000,000,000

      (Merged Zamasu, being the fusion of the same mind and the body of a mortal who Zamasu hates, has a higher Potara boost than Vegetto, who doesn’t have the same boost as the last time because at the time Vegeta hated Goku)

      Spirit Sword Trunks - 45,000,000,000,000[/spoiler]
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      Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

      Post by The gr » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:06 am

      emperior wrote: power levels
      That's a great list there,but I got one complaint,muten roshi and Jaco should at least around in the 2,000,since some of the frieza grunts in namek make fun of a power level of 1,000,so the frieza soldiers in the army fight are at least raditz tier
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      Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

      Post by emperior » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:16 am

      The gr wrote:
      emperior wrote: power levels
      That's a great list there,but I got one complaint,muten roshi and Jaco should at least around in the 2,000,since some of the frieza grunts in namek make fun of a power level of 1,000,so the frieza soldiers in the army fight are at least raditz tier
      Freezer himself comments his army has become ridiculously weak. Jaco was stated to be weaker than adult Saiyans in his manga, I don't think he was able to improve at all since then.
      Though you might be right, I might change it on the future basing on how strong Roshi will be in the Universal Tournament.
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      Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

      Post by dragonball0900 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:40 am

      TheUltimateNinja wrote:What kind of gap do you have between Goku and Pre-Majin Vegeta? Vegeta said the gap hadn't changed so I'm thinking maybe Goku is still almost twice as strong.
      I don't think it's that way. It was stated that the gap between Cell Games Gohan and Buu Saga Goku/Majin Vegeta wasn't that big, judging by Piccolo's comments when seeing Majin Vegeta against Majin Buu. That would make the possibility that Full Perfect Cell is still a bit above SSJ1 Buu Saga Goku, or maybe equals.

      Vegeta also said he was above Gohan. If we assume Gohan was Cell Games Goku tier, then Vegeta can be around Cell Games Gohan level. There's also Dabura, Vegeta made comments about how he could defeat Dabura, that's the possibility that he was referring to just SSJ (because Goku was surprised Vegeta transformed into SSJ2 later on). Dabura was also stronger than Gohan. Considering Dabura would still be below SSJ1 Vegeta, then Vegeta is probably stronger than Cell Games Gohan, since Dabura was stronger than Gohan, with Dabura possibly at the level of Cell Games Gohan.

      If Vegeta was that far below Goku, then the gap between the Goku and Gohan would really be terribly big, and I remember that it was stated that the 3 saiyans were around a different tier than for example Piccolo. I'd say the gap between Gohan and Goku is bigger than the gap between Piccolo and Gohan, since Gohan was still more relevant to the saiyans than Piccolo was. I'd say is more like this:

      SSJ Buu Saga Gohan - 3,200,000,000

      SSJ Cell Games Gohan - 3,500,000,000

      Dabura - 3,800,000,000

      SSJ Buu Saga Vegeta - 4,000,000,000

      SSJ Buu Saga Goku - 4,500,000,000

      Vegeta would still be below Goku. Remember that even a small gap between 10%-20% can still be considered a big gap, judging by battles like Vegeta vs Cui, Monster Zarbon vs Vegeta, or Kaioken X2 Goku vs Vegeta.

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      Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

      Post by VegetaSSJBlue » Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:09 pm

      I made a new list based on your feedback. Please correct me if you spot errors!

      MULTIPLIERS

      Oozaru – 10x
      Super Saiyan – 50x
      Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 75x
      Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 105x
      Super Saiyan 2 – 100x
      Super Saiyan 3 – 250x


      Raditz Arc


      [spoiler]Son Gohan – 1
      Enraged – 1,307

      Son Goku – 416
      Piccolo – 408
      Tenshinhan – 250
      Kuririn – 206
      Yamcha – 177
      Chaozu – 150
      Yajirobe – 145
      Muten Roshi – 139

      Kaio of the North – 5,000
      Enma Daio – 2,500
      Kami of Earth – 325
      Mr. Popo – 275

      Raditz – 1,200
      Oozaru – 12,000[/spoiler]


      Saiyan Arc


      [spoiler]Son Goku – 8,000
      Kaio-Ken x2 – 16,000
      Kaio-Ken x3 – 24,000
      Kaio-Ken x4 – 32,000

      Son Gohan – 1,200
      Enraged – 2,800
      Oozaru – 12,000

      Piccolo – 2,500
      Tenshinhan – 1,800
      Kuririn – 1,500
      Yamcha – 1,300
      Chaozu – 1,000
      Yajirobe – 800

      Saibaimen – 1,200

      Nappa – 7,500
      Oozaru – 75,000

      Vegeta – 18,000
      Oozaru – 180,000[/spoiler]


      Namek Arc


      [spoiler]Son Goku – 60,000
      Kaio-Ken x3 – 180,000
      Kaio-Ken x10 – 600,000

      Vegeta – 24,000
      Post-recovery – 30,000
      Post-recovery 2 – 50,000

      Son Gohan – 1,500
      Power Unlocked – 12,000
      Post-recovery – 30,000

      Kuririn – 1,500
      Power Unlocked – 11,000

      Dende – 250
      Power Unlocked – 1,000

      Muri – 1,500
      Young Namekians – 3,000
      Nail – 42,000

      Freeza – 530,000
      Freeza Soldiers – 1,250
      Kwi – 18,000
      Dodoria – 20,000

      Zarbon – 22,000
      Transformed – 30,000

      Gurd – 2,500
      Recoome – 40,000
      Butta – 40,000
      Jheese – 40,000
      Captain Ginyu – 120,000[/spoiler]


      Freeza Arc


      [spoiler]Son Goku – 2,000,000
      Kaio-Ken x10 – 20,000,000
      Kaio-Ken x20 – 40,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 100,000,000

      Vegeta – 500,000
      Post-recovery – 1,700,000

      Son Gohan – 100,000
      Enraged – 750,000
      Post-recovery – 400,000
      Enraged – 1,500,000

      Piccolo – 120,000
      Merged with Nail – 1,200,000

      Kuririn – 11,000

      Freeza – 530,000
      Second Form – 800,000
      Power-Up 1 – 900,000
      Power-Up 2 – 1,050,000
      Third Form – 1,575,000
      True Form – 2,100,000
      50% Power – 47,500,000
      70% Power – 66,500,000
      100% Power – 95,000,000[/spoiler]


      Mecha Freeza Arc


      [spoiler]Son Goku – 2,400,000
      Super Saiyan – 120,000,000

      Trunks – 2,300,000
      Super Saiyan – 115,000,000

      Vegeta – 2,000,000
      Piccolo – 1,500,000
      Son Gohan – 400,000
      Tenshinhan – 16,000
      Kuririn – 12,000
      Yamcha – 8,000
      Chaozu – 4,000

      Freeza Soldiers – 1,250
      King Cold – 90,000,000
      Mecha Freeza – 100,000,000[/spoiler]


      Future Arc I


      [spoiler]Future Gohan – 2,200,000
      Super Saiyan – 110,000,000

      Kid Trunks – 40,000
      Super Saiyan – 2,000,000

      Future Android 18 – 180,000,000
      Future Android 17 – 200,000,000[/spoiler]


      Artificial Human Arc


      [spoiler]Vegeta – 3,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 150,000,000

      Son Goku – 2,880,000
      Super Saiyan – 144,000,000

      Trunks – 2,500,000
      Super Saiyan – 125,000,000

      Piccolo – 100,000,000
      Gohan – 2,000,000
      Tenshinhan – 20,000
      Kuririn – 15,000
      Yamcha – 10,000
      Chaozu – 5,000

      Android 19 – 50,000,000
      Post-absorption – 75,000,000

      Android 20 – 60,000,000
      Post-absorption – 80,000,000

      Android 18 – 180,000,000
      Android 17 – 200,000,000
      Android 16 – 240,000,000

      Cell – 160,000,000[/spoiler]


      Cell Arc


      [spoiler]Vegeta – 6,400,000
      Super Saiyan – 320,000,000
      Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 480,000,000
      Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 672,000,000

      Trunks – 6,200,000
      Super Saiyan – 310,000,000
      Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 465,000,000
      Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 651,000,000

      Piccolo – 200,000,000

      Android 18 – 180,000,000
      Android 17 – 200,000,000
      Android 16 – 240,000,000

      Cell – 240,000,000
      Second Form – 320,000,000
      Full Power – 400,000,000
      Perfect Form – 450,000,000
      Power Up – 600,000,000
      Bulked Up – 750,000,000[/spoiler]


      Cell Games Arc


      [spoiler]Son Gohan – 36,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,800,000,000
      Super Saiyan 2 – 3,600,000,000
      Injured – 1,750,000,000

      Son Goku – 30,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,500,000,000

      Vegeta – 22,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,100,000,000

      Trunks – 22,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,100,000,000

      Piccolo – 900,000,000
      Android 16 – 240,000,000

      Cell Juniors – 1,100,000,000

      Perfect Cell – 1,500,000,000
      Full Speed – 1,800,000,000
      Full Power – 2,250,000,000
      Bulked Up – 2,750,000,000
      "Super Perfect" – 3,000,000,000[/spoiler]


      Future Arc II


      [spoiler]Trunks – 22,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,100,000,000
      3 Years Later – 25,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,250,000,000

      Future Android 18 – 180,000,000
      Future Android 17 – 200,000,000
      Cell – 240,000,000[/spoiler]


      Buu Arc


      [spoiler]Son Goku – 40,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 2,000,000,000
      Super Saiyan 2 – 4,000,000,000
      Super Saiyan 3 – 10,000,000,000

      Vegeta – 35,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,750,000,000
      Super Saiyan 2 – 3,500,000,000
      Super Saiyan 2 [Majin boost] – 4,000,000,000

      Son Gohan – 30,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,500,000,000
      Super Saiyan 2 – 3,000,000,000
      Ultimate – 30,000,000,000

      Son Goten – 20,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,000,000,000
      Post-RoSaT – 23,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,150,000,000

      Trunks – 21,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,050,000,000
      Post-RoSaT – 23,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,150,000,000

      Gotenks – 4,000,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 10,000,000,000
      Post-RoSaT – 5,000,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 12,500,000,000
      Super Saiyan 3 – 25,000,000,000

      Vegetto – 40,000,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 100,000,000,000

      Piccolo – 1,200,000,000
      Android 18 – 180,000,000
      Tenshinhan – 25,000
      Kuririn – 12,500
      Yamcha – 8,000
      Chaozu – 6,000
      Dende – 2,500

      Grand Kaioshin – 7,500,000,000
      Kaioshin of the South – 12,500,000,000
      Kaioshin of the North – 2,000,000,000
      Kaioshin of the West – 1,800,000,000

      Rou Kaioshin – 1,500,000
      Kibito – 20,000,000
      Kaioshin of the East - 1,500,000,000
      Merged – 8,000,000,000

      Babidi – 10
      Pui Pui – 10,000
      Yakon – 50,000,000
      Dabra – 2,500,000,000

      Pure Boo – 10,000,000,000
      Buff Boo – 22,500,000,000
      Majin Boo – 9,000,000,000
      Evil Boo – 5,000,000,000
      Good Boo – 4,000,000,000
      Super Boo – 20,000,000,000
      + Gotenks – 45,000,000,000
      + Son Gohan – 50,000,000,000[/spoiler]


      28th Tenkaichi Budokai Arc


      [spoiler]Son Goku – 50,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 2,500,000,000
      Super Saiyan 2 – 5,000,000,000
      Super Saiyan 3 – 12,500,000,000

      Vegeta – 45,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 2,250,000,000
      Super Saiyan 2 – 4,500,000,000

      Son Goten – 28,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,400,000,000

      Trunks – 28,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,400,000,000

      Son Gohan – 30,000,000,000
      Mister Boo – 4,000,000,000
      Piccolo – 1,500,000,000
      Oob – 50,000,000
      Pan – 2,000,000[/spoiler]

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      Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

      Post by emperior » Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:39 pm

      VegetaSSJBlue wrote: Power Levels
      I think you shouldn't bother listing power levels of characters with very few feats or information about their powers. Like Chaozu and Yamcha in Buu arc, or all the Kaioshins except for the main one and the buff one who used to be the strongest. Listing Chaozu at all after the Saiyan arc doesn't make much sense to me, he doesn't even show up for the androids or the Cell Games.
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      Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

      Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:48 pm

      VegetaSSJBlue wrote:I made a new list based on your feedback. Please correct me if you spot errors!

      MULTIPLIERS

      Oozaru – 10x
      Super Saiyan – 50x
      Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 75x
      Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 105x
      Super Saiyan 2 – 100x
      Super Saiyan 3 – 250x


      Raditz Arc


      [spoiler]Son Gohan – 1
      Enraged – 1,307

      Son Goku – 416
      Piccolo – 408
      Tenshinhan – 250
      Kuririn – 206
      Yamcha – 177
      Chaozu – 150
      Yajirobe – 145
      Muten Roshi – 139

      Kaio of the North – 5,000
      Enma Daio – 2,500
      Kami of Earth – 325
      Mr. Popo – 275

      Raditz – 1,200
      Oozaru – 12,000[/spoiler]


      Saiyan Arc


      [spoiler]Son Goku – 8,000
      Kaio-Ken x2 – 16,000
      Kaio-Ken x3 – 24,000
      Kaio-Ken x4 – 32,000

      Son Gohan – 1,200
      Enraged – 2,800
      Oozaru – 12,000

      Piccolo – 2,500
      Tenshinhan – 1,800
      Kuririn – 1,500
      Yamcha – 1,300
      Chaozu – 1,000
      Yajirobe – 800

      Saibaimen – 1,200

      Nappa – 7,500
      Oozaru – 75,000

      Vegeta – 18,000
      Oozaru – 180,000[/spoiler]


      Namek Arc


      [spoiler]Son Goku – 60,000
      Kaio-Ken x3 – 180,000
      Kaio-Ken x10 – 600,000

      Vegeta – 24,000
      Post-recovery – 30,000
      Post-recovery 2 – 50,000

      Son Gohan – 1,500
      Power Unlocked – 12,000
      Post-recovery – 30,000

      Kuririn – 1,500
      Power Unlocked – 11,000

      Dende – 250
      Power Unlocked – 1,000

      Muri – 1,500
      Young Namekians – 3,000
      Nail – 42,000

      Freeza – 530,000
      Freeza Soldiers – 1,250
      Kwi – 18,000
      Dodoria – 20,000

      Zarbon – 22,000
      Transformed – 30,000

      Gurd – 2,500
      Recoome – 40,000
      Butta – 40,000
      Jheese – 40,000
      Captain Ginyu – 120,000[/spoiler]


      Freeza Arc


      [spoiler]Son Goku – 2,000,000
      Kaio-Ken x10 – 20,000,000
      Kaio-Ken x20 – 40,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 100,000,000

      Vegeta – 500,000
      Post-recovery – 1,700,000

      Son Gohan – 100,000
      Enraged – 750,000
      Post-recovery – 400,000
      Enraged – 1,500,000

      Piccolo – 120,000
      Merged with Nail – 1,200,000

      Kuririn – 11,000

      Freeza – 530,000
      Second Form – 800,000
      Power-Up 1 – 900,000
      Power-Up 2 – 1,050,000
      Third Form – 1,575,000
      True Form – 2,100,000
      50% Power – 47,500,000
      70% Power – 66,500,000
      100% Power – 95,000,000[/spoiler]


      Mecha Freeza Arc


      [spoiler]Son Goku – 2,400,000
      Super Saiyan – 120,000,000

      Trunks – 2,300,000
      Super Saiyan – 115,000,000

      Vegeta – 2,000,000
      Piccolo – 1,500,000
      Son Gohan – 400,000
      Tenshinhan – 16,000
      Kuririn – 12,000
      Yamcha – 8,000
      Chaozu – 4,000

      Freeza Soldiers – 1,250
      King Cold – 90,000,000
      Mecha Freeza – 100,000,000[/spoiler]


      Future Arc I


      [spoiler]Future Gohan – 2,200,000
      Super Saiyan – 110,000,000

      Kid Trunks – 40,000
      Super Saiyan – 2,000,000

      Future Android 18 – 180,000,000
      Future Android 17 – 200,000,000[/spoiler]


      Artificial Human Arc


      [spoiler]Vegeta – 3,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 150,000,000

      Son Goku – 2,880,000
      Super Saiyan – 144,000,000

      Trunks – 2,500,000
      Super Saiyan – 125,000,000

      Piccolo – 100,000,000
      Gohan – 2,000,000
      Tenshinhan – 20,000
      Kuririn – 15,000
      Yamcha – 10,000
      Chaozu – 5,000

      Android 19 – 50,000,000
      Post-absorption – 75,000,000

      Android 20 – 60,000,000
      Post-absorption – 80,000,000

      Android 18 – 180,000,000
      Android 17 – 200,000,000
      Android 16 – 240,000,000

      Cell – 160,000,000[/spoiler]


      Cell Arc


      [spoiler]Vegeta – 6,400,000
      Super Saiyan – 320,000,000
      Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 480,000,000
      Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 672,000,000

      Trunks – 6,200,000
      Super Saiyan – 310,000,000
      Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 465,000,000
      Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 651,000,000

      Piccolo – 200,000,000

      Android 18 – 180,000,000
      Android 17 – 200,000,000
      Android 16 – 240,000,000

      Cell – 240,000,000
      Second Form – 320,000,000
      Full Power – 400,000,000
      Perfect Form – 450,000,000
      Power Up – 600,000,000
      Bulked Up – 750,000,000[/spoiler]


      Cell Games Arc


      [spoiler]Son Gohan – 36,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,800,000,000
      Super Saiyan 2 – 3,600,000,000
      Injured – 1,750,000,000

      Son Goku – 30,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,500,000,000

      Vegeta – 22,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,100,000,000

      Trunks – 22,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,100,000,000

      Piccolo – 900,000,000
      Android 16 – 240,000,000

      Cell Juniors – 1,100,000,000

      Perfect Cell – 1,500,000,000
      Full Speed – 1,800,000,000
      Full Power – 2,250,000,000
      Bulked Up – 2,750,000,000
      "Super Perfect" – 3,000,000,000[/spoiler]


      Future Arc II


      [spoiler]Trunks – 22,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,100,000,000
      3 Years Later – 25,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,250,000,000

      Future Android 18 – 180,000,000
      Future Android 17 – 200,000,000
      Cell – 240,000,000[/spoiler]


      Buu Arc


      [spoiler]Son Goku – 40,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 2,000,000,000
      Super Saiyan 2 – 4,000,000,000
      Super Saiyan 3 – 10,000,000,000

      Vegeta – 35,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,750,000,000
      Super Saiyan 2 – 3,500,000,000
      Super Saiyan 2 [Majin boost] – 4,000,000,000

      Son Gohan – 30,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,500,000,000
      Super Saiyan 2 – 3,000,000,000
      Ultimate – 30,000,000,000

      Son Goten – 20,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,000,000,000
      Post-RoSaT – 23,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,150,000,000

      Trunks – 21,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,050,000,000
      Post-RoSaT – 23,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,150,000,000

      Gotenks – 4,000,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 10,000,000,000
      Post-RoSaT – 5,000,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 12,500,000,000
      Super Saiyan 3 – 25,000,000,000

      Vegetto – 40,000,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 100,000,000,000

      Piccolo – 1,200,000,000
      Android 18 – 180,000,000
      Tenshinhan – 25,000
      Kuririn – 12,500
      Yamcha – 8,000
      Chaozu – 6,000
      Dende – 2,500

      Grand Kaioshin – 7,500,000,000
      Kaioshin of the South – 12,500,000,000
      Kaioshin of the North – 2,000,000,000
      Kaioshin of the West – 1,800,000,000

      Rou Kaioshin – 1,500,000
      Kibito – 20,000,000
      Kaioshin of the East - 1,500,000,000
      Merged – 8,000,000,000

      Babidi – 10
      Pui Pui – 10,000
      Yakon – 50,000,000
      Dabra – 2,500,000,000

      Pure Boo – 10,000,000,000
      Buff Boo – 22,500,000,000
      Majin Boo – 9,000,000,000
      Evil Boo – 5,000,000,000
      Good Boo – 4,000,000,000
      Super Boo – 20,000,000,000
      + Gotenks – 45,000,000,000
      + Son Gohan – 50,000,000,000[/spoiler]


      28th Tenkaichi Budokai Arc


      [spoiler]Son Goku – 50,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 2,500,000,000
      Super Saiyan 2 – 5,000,000,000
      Super Saiyan 3 – 12,500,000,000

      Vegeta – 45,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 2,250,000,000
      Super Saiyan 2 – 4,500,000,000

      Son Goten – 28,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,400,000,000

      Trunks – 28,000,000
      Super Saiyan – 1,400,000,000

      Son Gohan – 30,000,000,000
      Mister Boo – 4,000,000,000
      Piccolo – 1,500,000,000
      Oob – 50,000,000
      Pan – 2,000,000[/spoiler]
      The gaps you have between Goku and Vegeta in the Cell & Buu Arcs are too small.

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