Making Cell + 18 is just too small of a boost, given what we see from ASSJ Vegeta and how he humiliated Semi Perfect Cell, and in turn Initial Perfect Cell humiliated ASSJ Vegeta. I tried using the Cell + Androids formula, but it just got me to the problem with Frieza and the BOG Base Saiyans so I just had to go with what I managed to have.TheUltimateNinja wrote:Where does Cell get that power from, though? Shouldn't he just be Semi Perfect Cell + 18?dragonball0900 wrote:Well to be fair, this gap between their powers (and the one with Android 16 and Semi Perfect Cell) is the one that initially prevented me to make the Buu arc/BOG arc base saiyans below Frieza. Although now I managed to fit everything. I have the gap between ASSJ Vegeta and Initial Perfect Cell like a 1.2 of difference, slightly above 15% of difference (with the one with Android 16 and Semi Perfect Cell like a 1.5, somewhere above 30% of difference).TheUltimateNinja wrote:What kind of gap do you guys have between Initial Perfect Cell and Grade 2 Vegeta?
Here are my power levels:
Android 16 - 540,000,000
Semi Perfect Cell - 825,000,000
ASSJ Vegeta - 1,125,000,000
Initial Perfect Cell - 1,350,000,000
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What kind of gap do you have between Goku and Pre-Majin Vegeta? Vegeta said the gap hadn't changed so I'm thinking maybe Goku is still almost twice as strong.
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That seems excessive. I have SS2 Vegeta at 7.5 billion and Goku at 9 billion.TheUltimateNinja wrote:What kind of gap do you have between Goku and Pre-Majin Vegeta? Vegeta said the gap hadn't changed so I'm thinking maybe Goku is still almost twice as strong.
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Would Vegeta really sell his soul to Babidi over a 20% gap?DanielSSJ wrote:That seems excessive. I have SS2 Vegeta at 7.5 billion and Goku at 9 billion.TheUltimateNinja wrote:What kind of gap do you have between Goku and Pre-Majin Vegeta? Vegeta said the gap hadn't changed so I'm thinking maybe Goku is still almost twice as strong.
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Yea, I don't like it either. Like someone could even think them being low 50,000 in the Android arc could be useful for something?The gr wrote:I'm not liking the fact that people downplay the human character way too much,I mean what a power 20,000 that pathetic,I mean Krillin,yamcha and Tien are above that level in the artificial human saga ,and Krillin should not be around that level in the frieza fight.and why people ignore Tien in the buu saga
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If it would put him on even terms with Kakarott, hell yes he would.TheUltimateNinja wrote:Would Vegeta really sell his soul to Babidi over a 20% gap?
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They never did anything useful combat wise, in fact the only thing they did in the Cell arc was use up senzus.Noah wrote:Yea, I don't like it either. Like someone could even think them being low 50,000 in the Android arc could be useful for something?The gr wrote:I'm not liking the fact that people downplay the human character way too much,I mean what a power 20,000 that pathetic,I mean Krillin,yamcha and Tien are above that level in the artificial human saga ,and Krillin should not be around that level in the frieza fight.and why people ignore Tien in the buu saga
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Don't know if this an anime only scene: Dr. Gero aka #20 who had previously absorbed SSJ Vegeta blast stomped Krillin, many think he and #19 were way above Freeza, shouldn't Krillin be dead then? And how would low 50,000 Tien's Kikoho be useful against low billions BP Semi Perfect Cell?TheUltimateNinja wrote:They never did anything useful combat wise, in fact the only thing they did in the Cell arc was use up senzus.
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All the Kikoho did was shove Cell around. It didn't actually hurt him. Though 50,000 seems a little low for Tenshinhan. I'd say that he's at least 100,000.Noah wrote:Don't know if this an anime only scene: Dr. Gero aka #20 who had previously absorbed SSJ Vegeta blast stomped Krillin, many think he and #19 were way above Freeza, shouldn't Krillin be dead then? And how would low 50,000 Tien's Kikoho be useful against low billions BP Semi Perfect Cell?
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Here's my list once again. I updated it based on feedbacks, but there might still be errors so please tell me if you spot some! I aim to have a list as accurate as possible for DBZ, one who almost everyone can agree with. Then I will do a DBS list continuing this one.
Notable changes are: Earthlings' levels post-Freezer, I also upped the general level of the androids arc, upped Gotenks' first power level (he is stronger than Majin Buu, which is on line with Goku believing the kids could do it with the fusion) and also upped the kids levels during the tournament.
About Cell Games, in order not to increase the levels too much, I have SSJ Goku being 2 times stronger than the SSJ version of Vegeta pre-2nd Rosat trip, and not 2 times stronger than his Grade 2 form.
During Buu arc, I upped Goku, and Vegeta pre-Majin is at Cell Games Goku level. He then decides to get controlled once he sees Goku too is a SSJ2, and the power increases Babidi gives him is now quite significant (+1 billion). Vegetto as a consequence is stronger than before.
Overall, I'm quite satisfied with the actual state of the list. You might still spot some flaws, but it should definitely be much better than before.
Multipliers
Oozaru - 10x base
SSJ - 50x Base
SSJ2 - 100x Base
SSJ3 - 400x Base
Fusions
Dance = [(A+B)] x 5
Potara = [(A+B)] x ???
Dragon Ball Minus
[spoiler]Jaco - 150
Bardock - 2,500
Gine - 1,000
Bardock (Last Stand) - 10,000[/spoiler]
Dragon Ball Z
Raditz Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Weighted - 334
Full Power - 416
Piccolo
Weighted - 322
Full Power - 408
Gohan
Base - 1
Anger - 1,307+
Raditz - 1,500
Master Roshi - 139
Krillin - 206
Tenshinan - 250[/spoiler]
Saiyan Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Suppressed - 5,000
Base - 8000
Kaioken x2 - 16,000
Kaioken x3 - 24,000
Kaioken x4 - 32,000
Gohan
Base - 980
Angered - 2700
Piccolo - 2,500
Krillin - 1,770
Yamcha - 1,480
Tenshinan - 1,830
Yajirobe - 970
Chiaotzu - 610
Saibamen - 1,200
Nappa - 4,000
Vegeta
Base - 18,000
Great Ape Full Power - 180,000
Great Ape - 60,000[/spoiler]
Namek Arc
[spoiler]Goku (Arrival)
Suppressed - 5,000
Base - 90,000
Kaioken vs Ginyu - 120,000
Kaioken x2 - 180,000
Krillin (Power unlocked) - 12,000
Gohan (Power unlocked) - 15,000
Nail - 42,000
Namekian Warriors - 3,000
Vegeta
Base - 24,000
Zenkai - 30,000
2nd Zenkai - 60,000
Cui - 18,000
Dodoria - 22,000
Zarbon
Base - 23,000
Transformed - 32,000
Recoome - 40,000
Burter - 40,000
Jeice - 40,000
Guldo - 10,000
Captain Ginyu - 120,000
Ginyu in Goku’s body - 23,000[/spoiler]
Freezer Arc
[spoiler]Goku (Zenkai)
Base - 3,000,000
Kaioken x10 - 30,000,000
Kaioken x20 - 60,000,000
Super Saiyan - 150,000,000
Krillin - 75,000+
Gohan (Zenkai)
Base - 200,000+
Angry - 1,000,000
Angry 2 - 2,000,000
Piccolo (Nail) - 1,200,000
Vegeta
Base - 480,000
Zenkai - 2,500,000
Freezer
1st form - 530,000
2nd form - 1,090,000
3rd form - 2,120,000
Final Form (50%) - 60,000,000
Final Form - 100,000,000
Final Form (100%) - 120,000,000[/spoiler]
Trunks Arc
[spoiler]Mecha Freezer (Suppressed) - 105,000,000
King Cold - 100,000,000
King Cold's soldiers - Average of 1,000
Future Trunks
Base - 3,400,000
SSJ - 170,000,000
Goku
Base - 3,600,000
SSJ - 180,000,000
Vegeta - 3,000,000
Piccolo - 3,000,000
Gohan - 500,000
Krillin - 250,000
Tenshinhan - 60,000
Yamcha - 50,000[/spoiler]
Androids Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Base - 4,000,000
SSJ - 200,000,000
SSJ (Heart Virus) - 150,000,000 (Dropping)
Vegeta
Base - 4,200,000
SSJ - 210,000,000
Future Trunks
Base - 3,600,000
SSJ - 180,000,000
Piccolo - 180,000,000
Gohan - 3,000,000
Tenshinhan - 1,000,000
Krillin - 1,200,000
Yamcha - 900,000
#19 - 120,000,000
Dr. Gero - 130,000,000
#18 - 340,000,000
#17 - 360,000,000[/spoiler]
Cell Arc
[spoiler]Piccolo (Kami)
Full Power - 360,000,000
Worn Out - 290,000,000
Android 16 - 420,000,000
Cell
Imperfect - 250,000,000
Humans Absorbed - 420,000,000
Semi-Perfect - 760,000,000
Perfect (Suppressed)- 950,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 15,000,000
SSJ - 750,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 90%)
SSJ Grade 2 - 850,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 80%)
Trunks
Base - 14,500,000
SSJ - 725,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 90%)
SSJ Grade 2 - 825,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 80%)
SSJ Grade 3 - 1,025,000,000 (Speed = 80%, Stamina = 80%)[/spoiler]
Cell Games
[spoiler]Goku
Base - 30,000,000
FPSSJ - 1,500,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 100%)
Gohan
Base - 35,000,000
FPSSJ - 1,750,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 100%)
SSJ2 - 3,500,000,000
Wounded - 3,000,000,000
Father-Son Kamehameha - 5,000,000,000
Perfect Cell
vs Goku - 1,500,000,000
vs Gohan - 1,800,000,000
Full Power - 2,500,000,000
Super Perfect - 3,500,000,000
Cell Jr - 1,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 20,000,000
SSJ - 1,000,000,000
Trunks
Base - 19,000,000
SSJ - 950,000,000
Piccolo - 900,000,000[/spoiler]
The Future
[spoiler]Future #17- 320,000,000
Future #18- 300,000,000
Future Gohan
Base - 3,200,000
SSJ - 160,000,000
Trunks (Post Cell Games)
Base - 19,000,000
SSJ - 950,000,000
3 years later - 24,000,000
SSJ - 1,200,000,000
Future Cell- 250,000,000[/spoiler]
Babidi Arc
[spoiler]Gohan
Base - 25,000,000
SSJ - 1,250,000,000
Post Training - 30,000,000
FPSSJ - 1,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 3,000,000,000
Goten
Base - 9,000,000
FPSSJ - 450,000,000
Post Training - 14,000,000
FPSSJ - 700,000,000
Trunks
Base - 10,000,000
FPSSJ - 500,000,000
Post Training - 15,000,000
FPSSJ - 750,000,000
Goku
Base - 40,000,000
SSJ - 2,000,000,000
SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000
SSJ3 Full Power - 16,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 30,000,000
SSJ - 1,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 3,000,000,000
Majin Vegeta - 4,000,000,000
Krillin - 1,000,000
#18 - 350,000,000
Piccolo - 1,000,000,000
Kaioshin- 1,200,000,000
Kibito - 30,000,000
Pui-Pui - 100,000
Yakon - 35,000,000
Dabura - 2,500,000,000
Majin Buu - 6,000,000,000
Gotenks
Base - 140,000,000
SSJ - 7,000,000,000[/spoiler]
Buu Arc
[spoiler]Goten - 20,000,000
Trunks - 20,000,000
Gotenks
Base - 200,000,000
SSJ - 10,000,000,000
SSJ3 - 20,000,000,000
(Gotenks’ SSJ3 multiplier is 100x)
Gohan (Ultimate) - 25,000,000,000
Super Buu - 18,000,000,000
Buutenks - 38,000,000,000
Buuhan - 44,000,000,000
Kibitoshin - 2,460,000,000
(Potara multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 2)
Vegetto
Base - 1,200,000,000
SSJ - 60,000,000,000
(Potara multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 15)
Kid Buu - 12,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 40,000,000
SSJ - 2,000,000,000
SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000
Goku
Base - 40,000,000
SSJ - 2,000,000,000
SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000
SSJ3 - 12,000,000,000
SSJ3 (Full Power) - 16,000,000,000[/spoiler]
Notable changes are: Earthlings' levels post-Freezer, I also upped the general level of the androids arc, upped Gotenks' first power level (he is stronger than Majin Buu, which is on line with Goku believing the kids could do it with the fusion) and also upped the kids levels during the tournament.
About Cell Games, in order not to increase the levels too much, I have SSJ Goku being 2 times stronger than the SSJ version of Vegeta pre-2nd Rosat trip, and not 2 times stronger than his Grade 2 form.
During Buu arc, I upped Goku, and Vegeta pre-Majin is at Cell Games Goku level. He then decides to get controlled once he sees Goku too is a SSJ2, and the power increases Babidi gives him is now quite significant (+1 billion). Vegetto as a consequence is stronger than before.
Overall, I'm quite satisfied with the actual state of the list. You might still spot some flaws, but it should definitely be much better than before.
Multipliers
Oozaru - 10x base
SSJ - 50x Base
SSJ2 - 100x Base
SSJ3 - 400x Base
Fusions
Dance = [(A+B)] x 5
Potara = [(A+B)] x ???
Dragon Ball Minus
[spoiler]Jaco - 150
Bardock - 2,500
Gine - 1,000
Bardock (Last Stand) - 10,000[/spoiler]
Dragon Ball Z
Raditz Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Weighted - 334
Full Power - 416
Piccolo
Weighted - 322
Full Power - 408
Gohan
Base - 1
Anger - 1,307+
Raditz - 1,500
Master Roshi - 139
Krillin - 206
Tenshinan - 250[/spoiler]
Saiyan Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Suppressed - 5,000
Base - 8000
Kaioken x2 - 16,000
Kaioken x3 - 24,000
Kaioken x4 - 32,000
Gohan
Base - 980
Angered - 2700
Piccolo - 2,500
Krillin - 1,770
Yamcha - 1,480
Tenshinan - 1,830
Yajirobe - 970
Chiaotzu - 610
Saibamen - 1,200
Nappa - 4,000
Vegeta
Base - 18,000
Great Ape Full Power - 180,000
Great Ape - 60,000[/spoiler]
Namek Arc
[spoiler]Goku (Arrival)
Suppressed - 5,000
Base - 90,000
Kaioken vs Ginyu - 120,000
Kaioken x2 - 180,000
Krillin (Power unlocked) - 12,000
Gohan (Power unlocked) - 15,000
Nail - 42,000
Namekian Warriors - 3,000
Vegeta
Base - 24,000
Zenkai - 30,000
2nd Zenkai - 60,000
Cui - 18,000
Dodoria - 22,000
Zarbon
Base - 23,000
Transformed - 32,000
Recoome - 40,000
Burter - 40,000
Jeice - 40,000
Guldo - 10,000
Captain Ginyu - 120,000
Ginyu in Goku’s body - 23,000[/spoiler]
Freezer Arc
[spoiler]Goku (Zenkai)
Base - 3,000,000
Kaioken x10 - 30,000,000
Kaioken x20 - 60,000,000
Super Saiyan - 150,000,000
Krillin - 75,000+
Gohan (Zenkai)
Base - 200,000+
Angry - 1,000,000
Angry 2 - 2,000,000
Piccolo (Nail) - 1,200,000
Vegeta
Base - 480,000
Zenkai - 2,500,000
Freezer
1st form - 530,000
2nd form - 1,090,000
3rd form - 2,120,000
Final Form (50%) - 60,000,000
Final Form - 100,000,000
Final Form (100%) - 120,000,000[/spoiler]
Trunks Arc
[spoiler]Mecha Freezer (Suppressed) - 105,000,000
King Cold - 100,000,000
King Cold's soldiers - Average of 1,000
Future Trunks
Base - 3,400,000
SSJ - 170,000,000
Goku
Base - 3,600,000
SSJ - 180,000,000
Vegeta - 3,000,000
Piccolo - 3,000,000
Gohan - 500,000
Krillin - 250,000
Tenshinhan - 60,000
Yamcha - 50,000[/spoiler]
Androids Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Base - 4,000,000
SSJ - 200,000,000
SSJ (Heart Virus) - 150,000,000 (Dropping)
Vegeta
Base - 4,200,000
SSJ - 210,000,000
Future Trunks
Base - 3,600,000
SSJ - 180,000,000
Piccolo - 180,000,000
Gohan - 3,000,000
Tenshinhan - 1,000,000
Krillin - 1,200,000
Yamcha - 900,000
#19 - 120,000,000
Dr. Gero - 130,000,000
#18 - 340,000,000
#17 - 360,000,000[/spoiler]
Cell Arc
[spoiler]Piccolo (Kami)
Full Power - 360,000,000
Worn Out - 290,000,000
Android 16 - 420,000,000
Cell
Imperfect - 250,000,000
Humans Absorbed - 420,000,000
Semi-Perfect - 760,000,000
Perfect (Suppressed)- 950,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 15,000,000
SSJ - 750,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 90%)
SSJ Grade 2 - 850,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 80%)
Trunks
Base - 14,500,000
SSJ - 725,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 90%)
SSJ Grade 2 - 825,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 80%)
SSJ Grade 3 - 1,025,000,000 (Speed = 80%, Stamina = 80%)[/spoiler]
Cell Games
[spoiler]Goku
Base - 30,000,000
FPSSJ - 1,500,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 100%)
Gohan
Base - 35,000,000
FPSSJ - 1,750,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 100%)
SSJ2 - 3,500,000,000
Wounded - 3,000,000,000
Father-Son Kamehameha - 5,000,000,000
Perfect Cell
vs Goku - 1,500,000,000
vs Gohan - 1,800,000,000
Full Power - 2,500,000,000
Super Perfect - 3,500,000,000
Cell Jr - 1,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 20,000,000
SSJ - 1,000,000,000
Trunks
Base - 19,000,000
SSJ - 950,000,000
Piccolo - 900,000,000[/spoiler]
The Future
[spoiler]Future #17- 320,000,000
Future #18- 300,000,000
Future Gohan
Base - 3,200,000
SSJ - 160,000,000
Trunks (Post Cell Games)
Base - 19,000,000
SSJ - 950,000,000
3 years later - 24,000,000
SSJ - 1,200,000,000
Future Cell- 250,000,000[/spoiler]
Babidi Arc
[spoiler]Gohan
Base - 25,000,000
SSJ - 1,250,000,000
Post Training - 30,000,000
FPSSJ - 1,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 3,000,000,000
Goten
Base - 9,000,000
FPSSJ - 450,000,000
Post Training - 14,000,000
FPSSJ - 700,000,000
Trunks
Base - 10,000,000
FPSSJ - 500,000,000
Post Training - 15,000,000
FPSSJ - 750,000,000
Goku
Base - 40,000,000
SSJ - 2,000,000,000
SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000
SSJ3 Full Power - 16,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 30,000,000
SSJ - 1,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 3,000,000,000
Majin Vegeta - 4,000,000,000
Krillin - 1,000,000
#18 - 350,000,000
Piccolo - 1,000,000,000
Kaioshin- 1,200,000,000
Kibito - 30,000,000
Pui-Pui - 100,000
Yakon - 35,000,000
Dabura - 2,500,000,000
Majin Buu - 6,000,000,000
Gotenks
Base - 140,000,000
SSJ - 7,000,000,000[/spoiler]
Buu Arc
[spoiler]Goten - 20,000,000
Trunks - 20,000,000
Gotenks
Base - 200,000,000
SSJ - 10,000,000,000
SSJ3 - 20,000,000,000
(Gotenks’ SSJ3 multiplier is 100x)
Gohan (Ultimate) - 25,000,000,000
Super Buu - 18,000,000,000
Buutenks - 38,000,000,000
Buuhan - 44,000,000,000
Kibitoshin - 2,460,000,000
(Potara multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 2)
Vegetto
Base - 1,200,000,000
SSJ - 60,000,000,000
(Potara multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 15)
Kid Buu - 12,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 40,000,000
SSJ - 2,000,000,000
SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000
Goku
Base - 40,000,000
SSJ - 2,000,000,000
SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000
SSJ3 - 12,000,000,000
SSJ3 (Full Power) - 16,000,000,000[/spoiler]
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Huge improvement! This actually looks pretty good. There are a few points that I personally don't agree with, but none of it is outright wrong.emperior wrote:Here's my list once again. I updated it based on feedbacks, but there might still be errors so please tell me if you spot some! I aim to have a list as accurate as possible for DBZ, one who almost everyone can agree with. Then I will do a DBS list continuing this one.
Notable changes are: Earthlings' levels post-Freezer, I also upped the general level of the androids arc, upped Gotenks' first power level (he is stronger than Majin Buu, which is on line with Goku believing the kids could do it with the fusion) and also upped the kids levels during the tournament.
About Cell Games, in order not to increase the levels too much, I have SSJ Goku being 2 times stronger than the SSJ version of Vegeta pre-2nd Rosat trip, and not 2 times stronger than his Grade 2 form.
During Buu arc, I upped Goku, and Vegeta pre-Majin is at Cell Games Goku level. He then decides to get controlled once he sees Goku too is a SSJ2, and the power increases Babidi gives him is now quite significant (+1 billion). Vegetto as a consequence is stronger than before.
Overall, I'm quite satisfied with the actual state of the list. You might still spot some flaws, but it should definitely be much better than before.
One thing that stuck out to me. In the Saiyan arc, Gohan's rage-boosted state was at 2,800, not 2,700, like you listed. Also, I'd bump up Gotenks' Super Saiyan 3 boost. Even if he can't access the full 400 fold increase due to lack of training, he should be able to put out more power than a Super Saiyan 2. Maybe make it a 200 fold boost or something.
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EXPLAINING THE PORTRAYAL OF THE EARTHLINGS IN THE ANIME AND SUPER; MY INTERPRETATION OF THEIR POWER
The thing about the Earthlings' power is that the only notable power gains they'd make would have to be from training at Kaio's or the potential unlock from the Namekian Elder. They can't make much gains just from normal training. But since we know nothing of their training, I think a little "head-canon" explanation is completely justified.
We have next to no power comparison for them in the Manga, so I'd say it's best to take filler as gospel for the humans. I'll take Anime-exclusive scenes into consideration for what they're worth. The "canon" material is being pulled out every week by the same people who made that stuff, so as long as filler doesn't contradict anything, I'll take it into consideration.
We already have Kuririn's official battle power of 75,000. But that's just for the beginning of the Freeza fight. His power was said to be rising, so for all we know, he might have gotten much stronger. Though we have nothing indicating that he surpassed the 1,000,000 mark, nothing indicates that Gohan and Kuririn didn't surpass it either. Yamcha is able to take out Reacoom almost as easily as Goku while Chiaotzu is able to take out Ghurd and Tenshinhan is able to fight Jheese and Butta evenly while using the Multi-Form technique that splits his power in half. Tenshinhan is still the strongest, for now. And that's just the beginning of their training.
Kuririn (Vs. First Form Freeza)- 75,000
Tenshinhan (Vs. Ginyu Force)- 85,000
Yamcha (Vs. Ginyu Force)- 60,000
Chiaotzu (Vs. Ginyu Force)- 17,000
Ghurd- 10,000
Reacoom- 40,000
Jheese- 42,000
Butta- 43,000
Piccolo was doing (somewhat) well against True Form Freeza after Gohan and Kuririn gave him their energy. He was certainly performing better than Vegeta. The power combining stuff is really plot-induced most of the time, but I think it certainly could be simple addition this time around. So Gohan and Kuririn's power levels can be interpreted as being near a million for the later portion of the fight.
Piccolo- 1,200,000,000
+Gohan & Kuririn's Ki- 2,750,000,000
Vegeta- 2,400,000,000
Gohan- 800,000
Enraged- 1,600,000
Kuririn- 750,000
When Freeza becomes a cyborg and brings his daddy to Earth, the Earthlings are scared shitless even in the Anime. Needless to say, even heavily suppressed, Freeza is still way stronger than the Earthlings. Kuririn's unlock boost puts him above Tenshinhan and co. who have become insanely stronger thanks to training on Kaio's planet in a way that compromises learning the Kaio-Ken for better gains. Teshinhan does mention training differently, so this is not too much of a stretch.
Mecha-Freeza- 2,700,000
Full Power- 135,000,000
Kuririn- 1,500,000
Tenshinhan- 1,200,000
Yamcha- 900,000
Chiaotzu- 200,000
Alright, in only three years, two foes even greater than Freeza will appear. They've been told to only come at the battlefield if they are confident in their abilities. It's all-or-nothing, so some dire training methods won't hurt anyone. Tenshinhan and Kuririn train using the multi-form technique to make sparring partners for themselves and make incredible gains. Chiaotzu also trains with Ten, but isn't able to make good enough gains because of the large power difference between them. He doesn't even surpass the 1 million mark and Ten decides that it would be best if he doesn't come.
Yamcha has Bulma's gravity machine at his disposal. It's fair to assume that he used the machine but trained at a lower gravity than Vegeta. They still didn't get strong enough to face the androids, but they still powered up enough to feel confident that they could at least support Goku and co.
Tenshinhan learnt the Shin-Kikoho but it was still an incomplete technique.
Kuririn- 2,400,000
Tenshinhan- 2,100,000
Yamcha- 1,800,000
Chiaotzu- 700,000
Tenshinhan fights on par with Post RoSaT Base Trunks in the Bojack movie, so he made incredible gains before the Cell Games. How do you explain this when he rejects the idea of training in the RoSaT so that Vegeta and co. can use it? IMO With 4 days left until the Cell Games, Yamcha and Kuririn decide to train in there for 2 days after seeing how strong Goku and co. had become. Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu also follow suit anyways and train for the remaining 2 days. They make incredible gains but are still below the Base Saiyans, not to mention that they stand no chance against Cell. They decide not to participate in the games themselves but still show up there anyways... except for Chiaotzu.
Kuririn- 15,000,000
Tenshinhan- 12,600,000
Yamcha- 12,000,000
[Yamcha is the Earthling with the most potential. He caught up to Kuririn in no time when he did the same training as him for the 22nd Budokai. He can surpass Tenshinhan quite easily. He just doesn't train as hard as him.]
Chiaotzu- 4,000,000
After Goku's death, Kuririn and Yamcha give up on fighting. Luckily for me, it isn't specified exactly when they quit training. Kuririn gets married with Android #18 and lives with Kame-sennin while Yamcha settles in West City. In my scenario, Kame-sennin is worried that with Goku gone, both Yamcha and Kuririn will get complacent and stop training. His fears turn out to be true when he notices Kuririn training less and less everyday. He confronts Kuririn and motivates him to get stronger, to protect the ones that he holds dear. Kuririn leaves for West City and asks Bulma to let them use the Gravity chamber.
Bulma tells her that she has already made another one for Vegeta and that Kuririn can take the older model for himself. Kuririn takes the capsule and meets Yamcha on his way back. He explains the situation to him and invites him to an island a few miles away from Kame House. Kuririn and Yamcha spar in the chamber for a couple hours on the island everyday in the morning.
About 5 years later, Yamcha tells Kuririn that he's really not interested in training and tells him that he's still working on overcoming his nervousness around girls. He stops coming to Kame House and starts work at a host club... before he's fired. He later works as a freelance bodyguard and occasionally goes to Tenshinhan’s to help with the farm, as well. Kuririn, likewise, gives up on fighting too and stops shaving his head.
Even Kame-sennin trains secretly at Kame House when Kuririn is away.
Tenshinhan on the other hand, continues his mountain training and implements the multi-form technique to make the best gains he's ever made. He trains hard with Chiaotzu for 5 and even masters the Kikoho. Tenshinhan is satisfied with his training and tones it down a bit. He also starts to work in a farm in addition to his training.
This would be the Earthlings' absolute prime and their levels in DB Super. Both Kuririn and Yamcha might have gotten rusty and lost some power, but not by a considerable amount. Likewise, Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu might have gotten a little stronger, but not by a considerable amount. They already hit and went beyond their limits a long time ago.
Kuririn- 45,000,000
Tenshinhan- 42,000,000
Yamcha- 38,000,000
Chiaotzu- 14,000,000
The five years of training help Yamcha to kick Olibu's butt in the afterlife. Paikuuhan was busy searching for Freeza who had been released from his cocoon by Cell once again. In their absence, Kuririn and Yamcha were the strongest in the afterlife!
Tenshinhan's gains are enough for him to repel a blast from Majin Boo with his Kikoho while Chiaotzu has improved himself enough to hold Base Goku with his paralysis techniques.
Wow, that was longer than expected. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
I used to put the Earthlings below 1st Form Freeza, but I can certainly accept the bone that has been thrown to them by Toei.
They feel confident on facing Base Goku in the Anime and that'll most definitely continue in Super. So this definitely makes sense to me.
The thing about the Earthlings' power is that the only notable power gains they'd make would have to be from training at Kaio's or the potential unlock from the Namekian Elder. They can't make much gains just from normal training. But since we know nothing of their training, I think a little "head-canon" explanation is completely justified.
We have next to no power comparison for them in the Manga, so I'd say it's best to take filler as gospel for the humans. I'll take Anime-exclusive scenes into consideration for what they're worth. The "canon" material is being pulled out every week by the same people who made that stuff, so as long as filler doesn't contradict anything, I'll take it into consideration.
We already have Kuririn's official battle power of 75,000. But that's just for the beginning of the Freeza fight. His power was said to be rising, so for all we know, he might have gotten much stronger. Though we have nothing indicating that he surpassed the 1,000,000 mark, nothing indicates that Gohan and Kuririn didn't surpass it either. Yamcha is able to take out Reacoom almost as easily as Goku while Chiaotzu is able to take out Ghurd and Tenshinhan is able to fight Jheese and Butta evenly while using the Multi-Form technique that splits his power in half. Tenshinhan is still the strongest, for now. And that's just the beginning of their training.
Kuririn (Vs. First Form Freeza)- 75,000
Tenshinhan (Vs. Ginyu Force)- 85,000
Yamcha (Vs. Ginyu Force)- 60,000
Chiaotzu (Vs. Ginyu Force)- 17,000
Ghurd- 10,000
Reacoom- 40,000
Jheese- 42,000
Butta- 43,000
Piccolo was doing (somewhat) well against True Form Freeza after Gohan and Kuririn gave him their energy. He was certainly performing better than Vegeta. The power combining stuff is really plot-induced most of the time, but I think it certainly could be simple addition this time around. So Gohan and Kuririn's power levels can be interpreted as being near a million for the later portion of the fight.
Piccolo- 1,200,000,000
+Gohan & Kuririn's Ki- 2,750,000,000
Vegeta- 2,400,000,000
Gohan- 800,000
Enraged- 1,600,000
Kuririn- 750,000
When Freeza becomes a cyborg and brings his daddy to Earth, the Earthlings are scared shitless even in the Anime. Needless to say, even heavily suppressed, Freeza is still way stronger than the Earthlings. Kuririn's unlock boost puts him above Tenshinhan and co. who have become insanely stronger thanks to training on Kaio's planet in a way that compromises learning the Kaio-Ken for better gains. Teshinhan does mention training differently, so this is not too much of a stretch.
Mecha-Freeza- 2,700,000
Full Power- 135,000,000
Kuririn- 1,500,000
Tenshinhan- 1,200,000
Yamcha- 900,000
Chiaotzu- 200,000
Alright, in only three years, two foes even greater than Freeza will appear. They've been told to only come at the battlefield if they are confident in their abilities. It's all-or-nothing, so some dire training methods won't hurt anyone. Tenshinhan and Kuririn train using the multi-form technique to make sparring partners for themselves and make incredible gains. Chiaotzu also trains with Ten, but isn't able to make good enough gains because of the large power difference between them. He doesn't even surpass the 1 million mark and Ten decides that it would be best if he doesn't come.
Yamcha has Bulma's gravity machine at his disposal. It's fair to assume that he used the machine but trained at a lower gravity than Vegeta. They still didn't get strong enough to face the androids, but they still powered up enough to feel confident that they could at least support Goku and co.
Tenshinhan learnt the Shin-Kikoho but it was still an incomplete technique.
Kuririn- 2,400,000
Tenshinhan- 2,100,000
Yamcha- 1,800,000
Chiaotzu- 700,000
Tenshinhan fights on par with Post RoSaT Base Trunks in the Bojack movie, so he made incredible gains before the Cell Games. How do you explain this when he rejects the idea of training in the RoSaT so that Vegeta and co. can use it? IMO With 4 days left until the Cell Games, Yamcha and Kuririn decide to train in there for 2 days after seeing how strong Goku and co. had become. Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu also follow suit anyways and train for the remaining 2 days. They make incredible gains but are still below the Base Saiyans, not to mention that they stand no chance against Cell. They decide not to participate in the games themselves but still show up there anyways... except for Chiaotzu.
Kuririn- 15,000,000
Tenshinhan- 12,600,000
Yamcha- 12,000,000
[Yamcha is the Earthling with the most potential. He caught up to Kuririn in no time when he did the same training as him for the 22nd Budokai. He can surpass Tenshinhan quite easily. He just doesn't train as hard as him.]
Chiaotzu- 4,000,000
After Goku's death, Kuririn and Yamcha give up on fighting. Luckily for me, it isn't specified exactly when they quit training. Kuririn gets married with Android #18 and lives with Kame-sennin while Yamcha settles in West City. In my scenario, Kame-sennin is worried that with Goku gone, both Yamcha and Kuririn will get complacent and stop training. His fears turn out to be true when he notices Kuririn training less and less everyday. He confronts Kuririn and motivates him to get stronger, to protect the ones that he holds dear. Kuririn leaves for West City and asks Bulma to let them use the Gravity chamber.
Bulma tells her that she has already made another one for Vegeta and that Kuririn can take the older model for himself. Kuririn takes the capsule and meets Yamcha on his way back. He explains the situation to him and invites him to an island a few miles away from Kame House. Kuririn and Yamcha spar in the chamber for a couple hours on the island everyday in the morning.
About 5 years later, Yamcha tells Kuririn that he's really not interested in training and tells him that he's still working on overcoming his nervousness around girls. He stops coming to Kame House and starts work at a host club... before he's fired. He later works as a freelance bodyguard and occasionally goes to Tenshinhan’s to help with the farm, as well. Kuririn, likewise, gives up on fighting too and stops shaving his head.
Even Kame-sennin trains secretly at Kame House when Kuririn is away.
Tenshinhan on the other hand, continues his mountain training and implements the multi-form technique to make the best gains he's ever made. He trains hard with Chiaotzu for 5 and even masters the Kikoho. Tenshinhan is satisfied with his training and tones it down a bit. He also starts to work in a farm in addition to his training.
This would be the Earthlings' absolute prime and their levels in DB Super. Both Kuririn and Yamcha might have gotten rusty and lost some power, but not by a considerable amount. Likewise, Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu might have gotten a little stronger, but not by a considerable amount. They already hit and went beyond their limits a long time ago.
Kuririn- 45,000,000
Tenshinhan- 42,000,000
Yamcha- 38,000,000
Chiaotzu- 14,000,000
The five years of training help Yamcha to kick Olibu's butt in the afterlife. Paikuuhan was busy searching for Freeza who had been released from his cocoon by Cell once again. In their absence, Kuririn and Yamcha were the strongest in the afterlife!
Tenshinhan's gains are enough for him to repel a blast from Majin Boo with his Kikoho while Chiaotzu has improved himself enough to hold Base Goku with his paralysis techniques.
Wow, that was longer than expected. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
I used to put the Earthlings below 1st Form Freeza, but I can certainly accept the bone that has been thrown to them by Toei.
They feel confident on facing Base Goku in the Anime and that'll most definitely continue in Super. So this definitely makes sense to me.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:You're in the DB community, it's always a power level thread to someone.
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Thanks!DanielSSJ wrote:Huge improvement! This actually looks pretty good. There are a few points that I personally don't agree with, but none of it is outright wrong.emperior wrote:Here's my list once again. I updated it based on feedbacks, but there might still be errors so please tell me if you spot some! I aim to have a list as accurate as possible for DBZ, one who almost everyone can agree with. Then I will do a DBS list continuing this one.
Notable changes are: Earthlings' levels post-Freezer, I also upped the general level of the androids arc, upped Gotenks' first power level (he is stronger than Majin Buu, which is on line with Goku believing the kids could do it with the fusion) and also upped the kids levels during the tournament.
About Cell Games, in order not to increase the levels too much, I have SSJ Goku being 2 times stronger than the SSJ version of Vegeta pre-2nd Rosat trip, and not 2 times stronger than his Grade 2 form.
During Buu arc, I upped Goku, and Vegeta pre-Majin is at Cell Games Goku level. He then decides to get controlled once he sees Goku too is a SSJ2, and the power increases Babidi gives him is now quite significant (+1 billion). Vegetto as a consequence is stronger than before.
Overall, I'm quite satisfied with the actual state of the list. You might still spot some flaws, but it should definitely be much better than before.
One thing that stuck out to me. In the Saiyan arc, Gohan's rage-boosted state was at 2,800, not 2,700, like you listed. Also, I'd bump up Gotenks' Super Saiyan 3 boost. Even if he can't access the full 400 fold increase due to lack of training, he should be able to put out more power than a Super Saiyan 2. Maybe make it a 200 fold boost or something.
I'll change Gohan's power. As for Gotenks, as much as I would like to give him a better boost for Super Saiyan 3, it would mess up my power levels (a thing I like is Super Buu being 3x Fat Buu, and Kid Buu being 2x Fat Buu) and, with Super in mind, I decided to make the boost a mere 100x, but I would rather make it 200x. I just assume Gotenks achieved a SSJ2 like SSJ3, and that's why his eyes are different from Goku's when in the same form (no black pupil). When Goku is revived thanks to Old Kai, is Super Saiyan 3 isn't full power too. In my list, his boost is 300x (12 bilions)
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What I consider canonical
What I consider canonical
Spoiler:
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Multipliers
Oozaru - 10x base
SSJ - 50x Base
SSJ2 - 100x Base
SSJ3 - 400x Base
Fusions
Dance = [(A+B)] x 5
Potara = [(A+B)] x ???
Dragon Ball Minus
[spoiler]Jaco - 150
Bardock - 2,500
Gine - 1,000
Bardock (Last Stand) - 10,000[/spoiler]
Dragon Ball Z
Raditz Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Weighted - 334
Full Power - 416
Piccolo
Weighted - 322
Full Power - 408
Gohan
Base - 1
Anger - 1,307+
Raditz - 1,500
Master Roshi - 139
Krillin - 206
Tenshinan - 250[/spoiler]
Saiyan Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Suppressed - 5,000
Base - 8000
Kaioken x2 - 16,000
Kaioken x3 - 24,000
Kaioken x4 - 32,000
Gohan
Base - 980
Angered - 2,800
Piccolo - 2,500
Krillin - 1,770
Yamcha - 1,480
Tenshinan - 1,830
Yajirobe - 970
Chiaotzu - 610
Saibamen - 1,200
Nappa - 4,000
Vegeta
Base - 18,000
Great Ape Full Power - 180,000
Great Ape - 60,000[/spoiler]
Namek Arc
[spoiler]Goku (Arrival)
Suppressed - 5,000
Base - 90,000
Kaioken vs Ginyu - 120,000
Kaioken x2 - 180,000
Krillin (Power unlocked) - 12,000
Gohan (Power unlocked) - 15,000
Nail - 42,000
Namekian Warriors - 3,000
Vegeta
Base - 24,000
Zenkai - 30,000
2nd Zenkai - 60,000
Cui - 18,000
Dodoria - 22,000
Zarbon
Base - 23,000
Transformed - 32,000
Recoome - 40,000
Burter - 40,000
Jeice - 40,000
Guldo - 10,000
Captain Ginyu - 120,000
Ginyu in Goku’s body - 23,000[/spoiler]
Freezer Arc
[spoiler]Goku (Zenkai)
Base - 3,000,000
Kaioken x10 - 30,000,000
Kaioken x20 - 60,000,000
Super Saiyan - 150,000,000
Krillin - 75,000+
Gohan (Zenkai)
Base - 200,000+
Angry - 1,000,000
Angry 2 - 2,000,000
Piccolo (Nail) - 1,200,000
Vegeta
Base - 480,000
Zenkai - 2,500,000
Freezer
1st form - 530,000
2nd form - 1,090,000
3rd form - 2,120,000
Final Form (50%) - 60,000,000
Final Form - 100,000,000
Final Form (100%) - 120,000,000[/spoiler]
Trunks Arc
[spoiler]Mecha Freezer (Suppressed) - 105,000,000
King Cold - 100,000,000
King Cold's soldiers - Average of 1,000
Future Trunks
Base - 3,400,000
SSJ - 170,000,000
Goku
Base - 3,600,000
SSJ - 180,000,000
Vegeta - 3,000,000
Piccolo - 3,000,000
Gohan - 500,000
Krillin - 250,000
Tenshinhan - 60,000
Yamcha - 50,000[/spoiler]
Androids Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Base - 4,000,000
SSJ - 200,000,000
SSJ (Heart Virus) - 150,000,000 (Dropping)
Vegeta
Base - 4,200,000
SSJ - 210,000,000
Future Trunks
Base - 3,600,000
SSJ - 180,000,000
Piccolo - 180,000,000
Gohan - 3,000,000
Tenshinhan - 1,000,000
Krillin - 1,200,000
Yamcha - 900,000
#19 - 120,000,000
Dr. Gero - 130,000,000
#18 - 340,000,000
#17 - 360,000,000[/spoiler]
Cell Arc
[spoiler]Piccolo (Kami)
Full Power - 360,000,000
Worn Out - 290,000,000
Android 16 - 420,000,000
Cell
Imperfect - 250,000,000
Humans Absorbed - 420,000,000
Semi-Perfect - 760,000,000
Perfect (Suppressed)- 950,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 15,000,000
SSJ - 750,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 90%)
SSJ Grade 2 - 850,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 80%)
Trunks
Base - 14,500,000
SSJ - 725,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 90%)
SSJ Grade 2 - 825,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 80%)
SSJ Grade 3 - 1,025,000,000 (Speed = 80%, Stamina = 80%)[/spoiler]
Cell Games
[spoiler]Goku
Base - 30,000,000
FPSSJ - 1,500,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 100%)
Gohan
Base - 35,000,000
FPSSJ - 1,750,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 100%)
SSJ2 - 3,500,000,000
Wounded - 3,000,000,000
Father-Son Kamehameha - 5,000,000,000
Perfect Cell
vs Goku - 1,500,000,000
vs Gohan - 1,800,000,000
Full Power - 2,500,000,000
Super Perfect - 3,500,000,000
Cell Jr - 1,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 20,000,000
SSJ - 1,000,000,000
Trunks
Base - 19,000,000
SSJ - 950,000,000
Piccolo - 900,000,000[/spoiler]
The Future
[spoiler]Future #17- 320,000,000
Future #18- 300,000,000
Future Gohan
Base - 3,200,000
SSJ - 160,000,000
Trunks (Post Cell Games)
Base - 19,000,000
SSJ - 950,000,000
3 years later - 24,000,000
SSJ - 1,200,000,000
Future Cell- 250,000,000[/spoiler]
Babidi Arc
[spoiler]Gohan
Base - 25,000,000
SSJ - 1,250,000,000
Post Training - 30,000,000
FPSSJ - 1,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 3,000,000,000
Goten
Base - 9,000,000
FPSSJ - 450,000,000
Post Training - 14,000,000
FPSSJ - 700,000,000
Trunks
Base - 10,000,000
FPSSJ - 500,000,000
Post Training - 15,000,000
FPSSJ - 750,000,000
Goku
Base - 40,000,000
SSJ - 2,000,000,000
SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000
SSJ3 Full Power - 16,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 30,000,000
SSJ - 1,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 3,000,000,000
Majin Vegeta - 4,000,000,000
Krillin - 1,000,000
#18 - 350,000,000
Piccolo - 1,000,000,000
Kaioshin- 1,200,000,000
Kibito - 30,000,000
Pui-Pui - 100,000
Yakon - 35,000,000
Dabura - 2,500,000,000
Majin Buu - 6,000,000,000
Gotenks
Base - 140,000,000
SSJ - 7,000,000,000[/spoiler]
Buu Arc
[spoiler]Goten - 20,000,000
Trunks - 20,000,000
Gotenks
Base - 200,000,000
SSJ - 10,000,000,000
SSJ3 - 20,000,000,000
(Gotenks’ SSJ3 multiplier is 100x)
Gohan (Ultimate) - 25,000,000,000
Super Buu - 18,000,000,000
Buutenks - 38,000,000,000
Buuhan - 44,000,000,000
Kibitoshin - 2,460,000,000
(Potara multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 2)
Vegetto
Base - 1,200,000,000
SSJ - 60,000,000,000
(Potara multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 15)
Kid Buu - 12,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 40,000,000
SSJ - 2,000,000,000
SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000
Goku
Base - 40,000,000
SSJ - 2,000,000,000
SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000
SSJ3 - 12,000,000,000
SSJ3 (Full Power) - 16,000,000,000[/spoiler]
Dragon Ball Super
Battle of Gods Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Base - 50,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 5,000,000,000
SSJ3 - 15,000,000,000
SSG - 500,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 45,000,000
SSJ - 2,250,000,000
SSJ2 - 4,500,000,000
SSJ2 Enraged - 45,000,000,000
Gohan
Base - 20,000,000
SSJ - 1,000,000,000
Ultimate - 10,000,000,000
Majin Buu - 6,000,000,000
#18 - 350,000,000
Beerus
10% (Suppressed) - 50,000,000,000
100% (Suppressed) - 500,000,000,000
True Power - ? (1000)
Whis
True Power - ? (1500)[/spoiler]
Resurrection of Freezer Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Base - 120,000,000
God Ki - 12,000,000,000
SSB - 600,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 120,000,000
God Ki - 12,000,000,000
SSB - 600,000,000,000
(Super Saiyan Blue is 50x their God Ki base)
Freezer
1st Form - 1,300,000,000
4th Form - 15,000,000,000
Golden - 750,000,000,000
Exhausted - 375,000,000,000 (Dropping)
(Golden Form is 50x of Freezer's 4th form)
Gohan
Base - 20,000,000
SSJ - 1,000,000,000
Freezer's Soldiers - Average of 100
Piccolo - 950,000,000
Tenshinan - 1,500,000
Krillin - 1,000,000
Master Roshi - 300
Jaco- 150[/spoiler]
Champa Tournament Arc
U7
[spoiler]Whis - ? (1500)
Beerus - ? (1000)
Goku
Base - 150,000,000
SSJ - 7,500,000,000
SSB - 750,000,000,000
SSB + KKx2 - 1,500,000,000,000
SSB + KKx10 - 7,500,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 150,000,000
SSJ - 7,500,000,000
SSB - 750,000,000,000
Piccolo - 1,000,000,000
Majin Buu - 6,000,000,000
Monaka - 1[/spoiler]
U6
[spoiler]Vados - ? (1501)
Champa - ? (999)
Botamo - 30,000,000
Frost
1st Form - 26,000,000
Assault Form - 104,000,000
Final Form - 3,000,000,000
Otto Magetta - 10,000,000,000
Cabba
Base - 50,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000
Hit - ???[/spoiler]
Future Trunks Arc
Present
[spoiler]Future Trunks
Base - 150,000,000
SSJ2 - 15,000,000,000
Black
Full Power - 25,000,000,000
vs Goku - 15,000,000,000
Goku
Base - 150,000,000
SSJ2 - 15,000,000,000
SSJ3 vs Trunks - 20,000,000,000
SSJ3 Full Power - 45,000,000,000
Zamasu - 10,000,000,000[/spoiler]
Future
[spoiler]Future Trunks (Post Training)
Base - 150,000,000
FPSSJ2 - 600,000,000,000
Super Trunks - 1,200,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 150,000,000
SSB - 750,000,000,000
Goku
Base - 150,000,000
SSB - 750,000,000,000
SSB (Rage) - 1,200,000,000,000
Vegeta (Rage + Training)
Base - 300,000,000
SSB - 1,500,000,000,000
Black
Base - 25,000,000,000
SSR - 1,000,000,000,000
SSR Full Power - 1,250,000,000,000
SSR (Scythe) - 1,500,000,000,000
(Black is quite tricky. He never shows his full SSR power before Vegeta beats him after his training)
Future Zamasu - 600,000,000,000
Fusions
Goku
Base - 250,000,000
SSB - 1,250,000,000,000
SSB + KKx4 - 3,750,000,000
SSB + KKx10 - 12,500,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 300,000,000
SSB - 1,500,000,000,000
Future Trunks (Rage)
Base - 150,000,000
Super Trunks - 1,500,000,000,000
Merged Zamasu
Halo - 3,500,000,000,000
Full Power - 56,000,000,000,000
Giant Form - 42,000,000,000,000 (Decreasing)
(When he has the Halo, Zamasu is using 1/16 of his power. His power starts to rapidly decrease after Vegetto lands the Final Kamehameha)
Vegetto
Base - 11,000,000,000
SSB - 55,000,000,000,000
(Merged Zamasu, being the fusion of the same mind and the body of a mortal who Zamasu hates, has a higher Potara boost than Vegetto, who doesn’t have the same boost as the last time because at the time Vegeta hated Goku)
Spirit Sword Trunks - 45,000,000,000,000[/spoiler]
Oozaru - 10x base
SSJ - 50x Base
SSJ2 - 100x Base
SSJ3 - 400x Base
Fusions
Dance = [(A+B)] x 5
Potara = [(A+B)] x ???
Dragon Ball Minus
[spoiler]Jaco - 150
Bardock - 2,500
Gine - 1,000
Bardock (Last Stand) - 10,000[/spoiler]
Dragon Ball Z
Raditz Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Weighted - 334
Full Power - 416
Piccolo
Weighted - 322
Full Power - 408
Gohan
Base - 1
Anger - 1,307+
Raditz - 1,500
Master Roshi - 139
Krillin - 206
Tenshinan - 250[/spoiler]
Saiyan Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Suppressed - 5,000
Base - 8000
Kaioken x2 - 16,000
Kaioken x3 - 24,000
Kaioken x4 - 32,000
Gohan
Base - 980
Angered - 2,800
Piccolo - 2,500
Krillin - 1,770
Yamcha - 1,480
Tenshinan - 1,830
Yajirobe - 970
Chiaotzu - 610
Saibamen - 1,200
Nappa - 4,000
Vegeta
Base - 18,000
Great Ape Full Power - 180,000
Great Ape - 60,000[/spoiler]
Namek Arc
[spoiler]Goku (Arrival)
Suppressed - 5,000
Base - 90,000
Kaioken vs Ginyu - 120,000
Kaioken x2 - 180,000
Krillin (Power unlocked) - 12,000
Gohan (Power unlocked) - 15,000
Nail - 42,000
Namekian Warriors - 3,000
Vegeta
Base - 24,000
Zenkai - 30,000
2nd Zenkai - 60,000
Cui - 18,000
Dodoria - 22,000
Zarbon
Base - 23,000
Transformed - 32,000
Recoome - 40,000
Burter - 40,000
Jeice - 40,000
Guldo - 10,000
Captain Ginyu - 120,000
Ginyu in Goku’s body - 23,000[/spoiler]
Freezer Arc
[spoiler]Goku (Zenkai)
Base - 3,000,000
Kaioken x10 - 30,000,000
Kaioken x20 - 60,000,000
Super Saiyan - 150,000,000
Krillin - 75,000+
Gohan (Zenkai)
Base - 200,000+
Angry - 1,000,000
Angry 2 - 2,000,000
Piccolo (Nail) - 1,200,000
Vegeta
Base - 480,000
Zenkai - 2,500,000
Freezer
1st form - 530,000
2nd form - 1,090,000
3rd form - 2,120,000
Final Form (50%) - 60,000,000
Final Form - 100,000,000
Final Form (100%) - 120,000,000[/spoiler]
Trunks Arc
[spoiler]Mecha Freezer (Suppressed) - 105,000,000
King Cold - 100,000,000
King Cold's soldiers - Average of 1,000
Future Trunks
Base - 3,400,000
SSJ - 170,000,000
Goku
Base - 3,600,000
SSJ - 180,000,000
Vegeta - 3,000,000
Piccolo - 3,000,000
Gohan - 500,000
Krillin - 250,000
Tenshinhan - 60,000
Yamcha - 50,000[/spoiler]
Androids Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Base - 4,000,000
SSJ - 200,000,000
SSJ (Heart Virus) - 150,000,000 (Dropping)
Vegeta
Base - 4,200,000
SSJ - 210,000,000
Future Trunks
Base - 3,600,000
SSJ - 180,000,000
Piccolo - 180,000,000
Gohan - 3,000,000
Tenshinhan - 1,000,000
Krillin - 1,200,000
Yamcha - 900,000
#19 - 120,000,000
Dr. Gero - 130,000,000
#18 - 340,000,000
#17 - 360,000,000[/spoiler]
Cell Arc
[spoiler]Piccolo (Kami)
Full Power - 360,000,000
Worn Out - 290,000,000
Android 16 - 420,000,000
Cell
Imperfect - 250,000,000
Humans Absorbed - 420,000,000
Semi-Perfect - 760,000,000
Perfect (Suppressed)- 950,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 15,000,000
SSJ - 750,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 90%)
SSJ Grade 2 - 850,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 80%)
Trunks
Base - 14,500,000
SSJ - 725,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 90%)
SSJ Grade 2 - 825,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 80%)
SSJ Grade 3 - 1,025,000,000 (Speed = 80%, Stamina = 80%)[/spoiler]
Cell Games
[spoiler]Goku
Base - 30,000,000
FPSSJ - 1,500,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 100%)
Gohan
Base - 35,000,000
FPSSJ - 1,750,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 100%)
SSJ2 - 3,500,000,000
Wounded - 3,000,000,000
Father-Son Kamehameha - 5,000,000,000
Perfect Cell
vs Goku - 1,500,000,000
vs Gohan - 1,800,000,000
Full Power - 2,500,000,000
Super Perfect - 3,500,000,000
Cell Jr - 1,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 20,000,000
SSJ - 1,000,000,000
Trunks
Base - 19,000,000
SSJ - 950,000,000
Piccolo - 900,000,000[/spoiler]
The Future
[spoiler]Future #17- 320,000,000
Future #18- 300,000,000
Future Gohan
Base - 3,200,000
SSJ - 160,000,000
Trunks (Post Cell Games)
Base - 19,000,000
SSJ - 950,000,000
3 years later - 24,000,000
SSJ - 1,200,000,000
Future Cell- 250,000,000[/spoiler]
Babidi Arc
[spoiler]Gohan
Base - 25,000,000
SSJ - 1,250,000,000
Post Training - 30,000,000
FPSSJ - 1,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 3,000,000,000
Goten
Base - 9,000,000
FPSSJ - 450,000,000
Post Training - 14,000,000
FPSSJ - 700,000,000
Trunks
Base - 10,000,000
FPSSJ - 500,000,000
Post Training - 15,000,000
FPSSJ - 750,000,000
Goku
Base - 40,000,000
SSJ - 2,000,000,000
SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000
SSJ3 Full Power - 16,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 30,000,000
SSJ - 1,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 3,000,000,000
Majin Vegeta - 4,000,000,000
Krillin - 1,000,000
#18 - 350,000,000
Piccolo - 1,000,000,000
Kaioshin- 1,200,000,000
Kibito - 30,000,000
Pui-Pui - 100,000
Yakon - 35,000,000
Dabura - 2,500,000,000
Majin Buu - 6,000,000,000
Gotenks
Base - 140,000,000
SSJ - 7,000,000,000[/spoiler]
Buu Arc
[spoiler]Goten - 20,000,000
Trunks - 20,000,000
Gotenks
Base - 200,000,000
SSJ - 10,000,000,000
SSJ3 - 20,000,000,000
(Gotenks’ SSJ3 multiplier is 100x)
Gohan (Ultimate) - 25,000,000,000
Super Buu - 18,000,000,000
Buutenks - 38,000,000,000
Buuhan - 44,000,000,000
Kibitoshin - 2,460,000,000
(Potara multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 2)
Vegetto
Base - 1,200,000,000
SSJ - 60,000,000,000
(Potara multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 15)
Kid Buu - 12,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 40,000,000
SSJ - 2,000,000,000
SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000
Goku
Base - 40,000,000
SSJ - 2,000,000,000
SSJ2 - 4,000,000,000
SSJ3 - 12,000,000,000
SSJ3 (Full Power) - 16,000,000,000[/spoiler]
Dragon Ball Super
Battle of Gods Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Base - 50,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 5,000,000,000
SSJ3 - 15,000,000,000
SSG - 500,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 45,000,000
SSJ - 2,250,000,000
SSJ2 - 4,500,000,000
SSJ2 Enraged - 45,000,000,000
Gohan
Base - 20,000,000
SSJ - 1,000,000,000
Ultimate - 10,000,000,000
Majin Buu - 6,000,000,000
#18 - 350,000,000
Beerus
10% (Suppressed) - 50,000,000,000
100% (Suppressed) - 500,000,000,000
True Power - ? (1000)
Whis
True Power - ? (1500)[/spoiler]
Resurrection of Freezer Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Base - 120,000,000
God Ki - 12,000,000,000
SSB - 600,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 120,000,000
God Ki - 12,000,000,000
SSB - 600,000,000,000
(Super Saiyan Blue is 50x their God Ki base)
Freezer
1st Form - 1,300,000,000
4th Form - 15,000,000,000
Golden - 750,000,000,000
Exhausted - 375,000,000,000 (Dropping)
(Golden Form is 50x of Freezer's 4th form)
Gohan
Base - 20,000,000
SSJ - 1,000,000,000
Freezer's Soldiers - Average of 100
Piccolo - 950,000,000
Tenshinan - 1,500,000
Krillin - 1,000,000
Master Roshi - 300
Jaco- 150[/spoiler]
Champa Tournament Arc
U7
[spoiler]Whis - ? (1500)
Beerus - ? (1000)
Goku
Base - 150,000,000
SSJ - 7,500,000,000
SSB - 750,000,000,000
SSB + KKx2 - 1,500,000,000,000
SSB + KKx10 - 7,500,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 150,000,000
SSJ - 7,500,000,000
SSB - 750,000,000,000
Piccolo - 1,000,000,000
Majin Buu - 6,000,000,000
Monaka - 1[/spoiler]
U6
[spoiler]Vados - ? (1501)
Champa - ? (999)
Botamo - 30,000,000
Frost
1st Form - 26,000,000
Assault Form - 104,000,000
Final Form - 3,000,000,000
Otto Magetta - 10,000,000,000
Cabba
Base - 50,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000
Hit - ???[/spoiler]
Future Trunks Arc
Present
[spoiler]Future Trunks
Base - 150,000,000
SSJ2 - 15,000,000,000
Black
Full Power - 25,000,000,000
vs Goku - 15,000,000,000
Goku
Base - 150,000,000
SSJ2 - 15,000,000,000
SSJ3 vs Trunks - 20,000,000,000
SSJ3 Full Power - 45,000,000,000
Zamasu - 10,000,000,000[/spoiler]
Future
[spoiler]Future Trunks (Post Training)
Base - 150,000,000
FPSSJ2 - 600,000,000,000
Super Trunks - 1,200,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 150,000,000
SSB - 750,000,000,000
Goku
Base - 150,000,000
SSB - 750,000,000,000
SSB (Rage) - 1,200,000,000,000
Vegeta (Rage + Training)
Base - 300,000,000
SSB - 1,500,000,000,000
Black
Base - 25,000,000,000
SSR - 1,000,000,000,000
SSR Full Power - 1,250,000,000,000
SSR (Scythe) - 1,500,000,000,000
(Black is quite tricky. He never shows his full SSR power before Vegeta beats him after his training)
Future Zamasu - 600,000,000,000
Fusions
Goku
Base - 250,000,000
SSB - 1,250,000,000,000
SSB + KKx4 - 3,750,000,000
SSB + KKx10 - 12,500,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 300,000,000
SSB - 1,500,000,000,000
Future Trunks (Rage)
Base - 150,000,000
Super Trunks - 1,500,000,000,000
Merged Zamasu
Halo - 3,500,000,000,000
Full Power - 56,000,000,000,000
Giant Form - 42,000,000,000,000 (Decreasing)
(When he has the Halo, Zamasu is using 1/16 of his power. His power starts to rapidly decrease after Vegetto lands the Final Kamehameha)
Vegetto
Base - 11,000,000,000
SSB - 55,000,000,000,000
(Merged Zamasu, being the fusion of the same mind and the body of a mortal who Zamasu hates, has a higher Potara boost than Vegetto, who doesn’t have the same boost as the last time because at the time Vegeta hated Goku)
Spirit Sword Trunks - 45,000,000,000,000[/spoiler]
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
That's a great list there,but I got one complaint,muten roshi and Jaco should at least around in the 2,000,since some of the frieza grunts in namek make fun of a power level of 1,000,so the frieza soldiers in the army fight are at least raditz tieremperior wrote: power levels
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Freezer himself comments his army has become ridiculously weak. Jaco was stated to be weaker than adult Saiyans in his manga, I don't think he was able to improve at all since then.The gr wrote:That's a great list there,but I got one complaint,muten roshi and Jaco should at least around in the 2,000,since some of the frieza grunts in namek make fun of a power level of 1,000,so the frieza soldiers in the army fight are at least raditz tieremperior wrote: power levels
Though you might be right, I might change it on the future basing on how strong Roshi will be in the Universal Tournament.
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
I don't think it's that way. It was stated that the gap between Cell Games Gohan and Buu Saga Goku/Majin Vegeta wasn't that big, judging by Piccolo's comments when seeing Majin Vegeta against Majin Buu. That would make the possibility that Full Perfect Cell is still a bit above SSJ1 Buu Saga Goku, or maybe equals.TheUltimateNinja wrote:What kind of gap do you have between Goku and Pre-Majin Vegeta? Vegeta said the gap hadn't changed so I'm thinking maybe Goku is still almost twice as strong.
Vegeta also said he was above Gohan. If we assume Gohan was Cell Games Goku tier, then Vegeta can be around Cell Games Gohan level. There's also Dabura, Vegeta made comments about how he could defeat Dabura, that's the possibility that he was referring to just SSJ (because Goku was surprised Vegeta transformed into SSJ2 later on). Dabura was also stronger than Gohan. Considering Dabura would still be below SSJ1 Vegeta, then Vegeta is probably stronger than Cell Games Gohan, since Dabura was stronger than Gohan, with Dabura possibly at the level of Cell Games Gohan.
If Vegeta was that far below Goku, then the gap between the Goku and Gohan would really be terribly big, and I remember that it was stated that the 3 saiyans were around a different tier than for example Piccolo. I'd say the gap between Gohan and Goku is bigger than the gap between Piccolo and Gohan, since Gohan was still more relevant to the saiyans than Piccolo was. I'd say is more like this:
SSJ Buu Saga Gohan - 3,200,000,000
SSJ Cell Games Gohan - 3,500,000,000
Dabura - 3,800,000,000
SSJ Buu Saga Vegeta - 4,000,000,000
SSJ Buu Saga Goku - 4,500,000,000
Vegeta would still be below Goku. Remember that even a small gap between 10%-20% can still be considered a big gap, judging by battles like Vegeta vs Cui, Monster Zarbon vs Vegeta, or Kaioken X2 Goku vs Vegeta.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread
I made a new list based on your feedback. Please correct me if you spot errors!
MULTIPLIERS
Oozaru – 10x
Super Saiyan – 50x
Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 75x
Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 105x
Super Saiyan 2 – 100x
Super Saiyan 3 – 250x
Raditz Arc
[spoiler]Son Gohan – 1
Enraged – 1,307
Son Goku – 416
Piccolo – 408
Tenshinhan – 250
Kuririn – 206
Yamcha – 177
Chaozu – 150
Yajirobe – 145
Muten Roshi – 139
Kaio of the North – 5,000
Enma Daio – 2,500
Kami of Earth – 325
Mr. Popo – 275
Raditz – 1,200
Oozaru – 12,000[/spoiler]
Saiyan Arc
[spoiler]Son Goku – 8,000
Kaio-Ken x2 – 16,000
Kaio-Ken x3 – 24,000
Kaio-Ken x4 – 32,000
Son Gohan – 1,200
Enraged – 2,800
Oozaru – 12,000
Piccolo – 2,500
Tenshinhan – 1,800
Kuririn – 1,500
Yamcha – 1,300
Chaozu – 1,000
Yajirobe – 800
Saibaimen – 1,200
Nappa – 7,500
Oozaru – 75,000
Vegeta – 18,000
Oozaru – 180,000[/spoiler]
Namek Arc
[spoiler]Son Goku – 60,000
Kaio-Ken x3 – 180,000
Kaio-Ken x10 – 600,000
Vegeta – 24,000
Post-recovery – 30,000
Post-recovery 2 – 50,000
Son Gohan – 1,500
Power Unlocked – 12,000
Post-recovery – 30,000
Kuririn – 1,500
Power Unlocked – 11,000
Dende – 250
Power Unlocked – 1,000
Muri – 1,500
Young Namekians – 3,000
Nail – 42,000
Freeza – 530,000
Freeza Soldiers – 1,250
Kwi – 18,000
Dodoria – 20,000
Zarbon – 22,000
Transformed – 30,000
Gurd – 2,500
Recoome – 40,000
Butta – 40,000
Jheese – 40,000
Captain Ginyu – 120,000[/spoiler]
Freeza Arc
[spoiler]Son Goku – 2,000,000
Kaio-Ken x10 – 20,000,000
Kaio-Ken x20 – 40,000,000
Super Saiyan – 100,000,000
Vegeta – 500,000
Post-recovery – 1,700,000
Son Gohan – 100,000
Enraged – 750,000
Post-recovery – 400,000
Enraged – 1,500,000
Piccolo – 120,000
Merged with Nail – 1,200,000
Kuririn – 11,000
Freeza – 530,000
Second Form – 800,000
Power-Up 1 – 900,000
Power-Up 2 – 1,050,000
Third Form – 1,575,000
True Form – 2,100,000
50% Power – 47,500,000
70% Power – 66,500,000
100% Power – 95,000,000[/spoiler]
Mecha Freeza Arc
[spoiler]Son Goku – 2,400,000
Super Saiyan – 120,000,000
Trunks – 2,300,000
Super Saiyan – 115,000,000
Vegeta – 2,000,000
Piccolo – 1,500,000
Son Gohan – 400,000
Tenshinhan – 16,000
Kuririn – 12,000
Yamcha – 8,000
Chaozu – 4,000
Freeza Soldiers – 1,250
King Cold – 90,000,000
Mecha Freeza – 100,000,000[/spoiler]
Future Arc I
[spoiler]Future Gohan – 2,200,000
Super Saiyan – 110,000,000
Kid Trunks – 40,000
Super Saiyan – 2,000,000
Future Android 18 – 180,000,000
Future Android 17 – 200,000,000[/spoiler]
Artificial Human Arc
[spoiler]Vegeta – 3,000,000
Super Saiyan – 150,000,000
Son Goku – 2,880,000
Super Saiyan – 144,000,000
Trunks – 2,500,000
Super Saiyan – 125,000,000
Piccolo – 100,000,000
Gohan – 2,000,000
Tenshinhan – 20,000
Kuririn – 15,000
Yamcha – 10,000
Chaozu – 5,000
Android 19 – 50,000,000
Post-absorption – 75,000,000
Android 20 – 60,000,000
Post-absorption – 80,000,000
Android 18 – 180,000,000
Android 17 – 200,000,000
Android 16 – 240,000,000
Cell – 160,000,000[/spoiler]
Cell Arc
[spoiler]Vegeta – 6,400,000
Super Saiyan – 320,000,000
Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 480,000,000
Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 672,000,000
Trunks – 6,200,000
Super Saiyan – 310,000,000
Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 465,000,000
Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 651,000,000
Piccolo – 200,000,000
Android 18 – 180,000,000
Android 17 – 200,000,000
Android 16 – 240,000,000
Cell – 240,000,000
Second Form – 320,000,000
Full Power – 400,000,000
Perfect Form – 450,000,000
Power Up – 600,000,000
Bulked Up – 750,000,000[/spoiler]
Cell Games Arc
[spoiler]Son Gohan – 36,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,800,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 3,600,000,000
Injured – 1,750,000,000
Son Goku – 30,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,500,000,000
Vegeta – 22,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,100,000,000
Trunks – 22,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,100,000,000
Piccolo – 900,000,000
Android 16 – 240,000,000
Cell Juniors – 1,100,000,000
Perfect Cell – 1,500,000,000
Full Speed – 1,800,000,000
Full Power – 2,250,000,000
Bulked Up – 2,750,000,000
"Super Perfect" – 3,000,000,000[/spoiler]
Future Arc II
[spoiler]Trunks – 22,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,100,000,000
3 Years Later – 25,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,250,000,000
Future Android 18 – 180,000,000
Future Android 17 – 200,000,000
Cell – 240,000,000[/spoiler]
Buu Arc
[spoiler]Son Goku – 40,000,000
Super Saiyan – 2,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 4,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 – 10,000,000,000
Vegeta – 35,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,750,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 3,500,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 [Majin boost] – 4,000,000,000
Son Gohan – 30,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,500,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 3,000,000,000
Ultimate – 30,000,000,000
Son Goten – 20,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,000,000,000
Post-RoSaT – 23,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,150,000,000
Trunks – 21,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,050,000,000
Post-RoSaT – 23,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,150,000,000
Gotenks – 4,000,000,000
Super Saiyan – 10,000,000,000
Post-RoSaT – 5,000,000,000
Super Saiyan – 12,500,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 – 25,000,000,000
Vegetto – 40,000,000,000
Super Saiyan – 100,000,000,000
Piccolo – 1,200,000,000
Android 18 – 180,000,000
Tenshinhan – 25,000
Kuririn – 12,500
Yamcha – 8,000
Chaozu – 6,000
Dende – 2,500
Grand Kaioshin – 7,500,000,000
Kaioshin of the South – 12,500,000,000
Kaioshin of the North – 2,000,000,000
Kaioshin of the West – 1,800,000,000
Rou Kaioshin – 1,500,000
Kibito – 20,000,000
Kaioshin of the East - 1,500,000,000
Merged – 8,000,000,000
Babidi – 10
Pui Pui – 10,000
Yakon – 50,000,000
Dabra – 2,500,000,000
Pure Boo – 10,000,000,000
Buff Boo – 22,500,000,000
Majin Boo – 9,000,000,000
Evil Boo – 5,000,000,000
Good Boo – 4,000,000,000
Super Boo – 20,000,000,000
+ Gotenks – 45,000,000,000
+ Son Gohan – 50,000,000,000[/spoiler]
28th Tenkaichi Budokai Arc
[spoiler]Son Goku – 50,000,000
Super Saiyan – 2,500,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 5,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 – 12,500,000,000
Vegeta – 45,000,000
Super Saiyan – 2,250,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 4,500,000,000
Son Goten – 28,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,400,000,000
Trunks – 28,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,400,000,000
Son Gohan – 30,000,000,000
Mister Boo – 4,000,000,000
Piccolo – 1,500,000,000
Oob – 50,000,000
Pan – 2,000,000[/spoiler]
MULTIPLIERS
Oozaru – 10x
Super Saiyan – 50x
Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 75x
Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 105x
Super Saiyan 2 – 100x
Super Saiyan 3 – 250x
Raditz Arc
[spoiler]Son Gohan – 1
Enraged – 1,307
Son Goku – 416
Piccolo – 408
Tenshinhan – 250
Kuririn – 206
Yamcha – 177
Chaozu – 150
Yajirobe – 145
Muten Roshi – 139
Kaio of the North – 5,000
Enma Daio – 2,500
Kami of Earth – 325
Mr. Popo – 275
Raditz – 1,200
Oozaru – 12,000[/spoiler]
Saiyan Arc
[spoiler]Son Goku – 8,000
Kaio-Ken x2 – 16,000
Kaio-Ken x3 – 24,000
Kaio-Ken x4 – 32,000
Son Gohan – 1,200
Enraged – 2,800
Oozaru – 12,000
Piccolo – 2,500
Tenshinhan – 1,800
Kuririn – 1,500
Yamcha – 1,300
Chaozu – 1,000
Yajirobe – 800
Saibaimen – 1,200
Nappa – 7,500
Oozaru – 75,000
Vegeta – 18,000
Oozaru – 180,000[/spoiler]
Namek Arc
[spoiler]Son Goku – 60,000
Kaio-Ken x3 – 180,000
Kaio-Ken x10 – 600,000
Vegeta – 24,000
Post-recovery – 30,000
Post-recovery 2 – 50,000
Son Gohan – 1,500
Power Unlocked – 12,000
Post-recovery – 30,000
Kuririn – 1,500
Power Unlocked – 11,000
Dende – 250
Power Unlocked – 1,000
Muri – 1,500
Young Namekians – 3,000
Nail – 42,000
Freeza – 530,000
Freeza Soldiers – 1,250
Kwi – 18,000
Dodoria – 20,000
Zarbon – 22,000
Transformed – 30,000
Gurd – 2,500
Recoome – 40,000
Butta – 40,000
Jheese – 40,000
Captain Ginyu – 120,000[/spoiler]
Freeza Arc
[spoiler]Son Goku – 2,000,000
Kaio-Ken x10 – 20,000,000
Kaio-Ken x20 – 40,000,000
Super Saiyan – 100,000,000
Vegeta – 500,000
Post-recovery – 1,700,000
Son Gohan – 100,000
Enraged – 750,000
Post-recovery – 400,000
Enraged – 1,500,000
Piccolo – 120,000
Merged with Nail – 1,200,000
Kuririn – 11,000
Freeza – 530,000
Second Form – 800,000
Power-Up 1 – 900,000
Power-Up 2 – 1,050,000
Third Form – 1,575,000
True Form – 2,100,000
50% Power – 47,500,000
70% Power – 66,500,000
100% Power – 95,000,000[/spoiler]
Mecha Freeza Arc
[spoiler]Son Goku – 2,400,000
Super Saiyan – 120,000,000
Trunks – 2,300,000
Super Saiyan – 115,000,000
Vegeta – 2,000,000
Piccolo – 1,500,000
Son Gohan – 400,000
Tenshinhan – 16,000
Kuririn – 12,000
Yamcha – 8,000
Chaozu – 4,000
Freeza Soldiers – 1,250
King Cold – 90,000,000
Mecha Freeza – 100,000,000[/spoiler]
Future Arc I
[spoiler]Future Gohan – 2,200,000
Super Saiyan – 110,000,000
Kid Trunks – 40,000
Super Saiyan – 2,000,000
Future Android 18 – 180,000,000
Future Android 17 – 200,000,000[/spoiler]
Artificial Human Arc
[spoiler]Vegeta – 3,000,000
Super Saiyan – 150,000,000
Son Goku – 2,880,000
Super Saiyan – 144,000,000
Trunks – 2,500,000
Super Saiyan – 125,000,000
Piccolo – 100,000,000
Gohan – 2,000,000
Tenshinhan – 20,000
Kuririn – 15,000
Yamcha – 10,000
Chaozu – 5,000
Android 19 – 50,000,000
Post-absorption – 75,000,000
Android 20 – 60,000,000
Post-absorption – 80,000,000
Android 18 – 180,000,000
Android 17 – 200,000,000
Android 16 – 240,000,000
Cell – 160,000,000[/spoiler]
Cell Arc
[spoiler]Vegeta – 6,400,000
Super Saiyan – 320,000,000
Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 480,000,000
Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 672,000,000
Trunks – 6,200,000
Super Saiyan – 310,000,000
Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 465,000,000
Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 651,000,000
Piccolo – 200,000,000
Android 18 – 180,000,000
Android 17 – 200,000,000
Android 16 – 240,000,000
Cell – 240,000,000
Second Form – 320,000,000
Full Power – 400,000,000
Perfect Form – 450,000,000
Power Up – 600,000,000
Bulked Up – 750,000,000[/spoiler]
Cell Games Arc
[spoiler]Son Gohan – 36,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,800,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 3,600,000,000
Injured – 1,750,000,000
Son Goku – 30,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,500,000,000
Vegeta – 22,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,100,000,000
Trunks – 22,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,100,000,000
Piccolo – 900,000,000
Android 16 – 240,000,000
Cell Juniors – 1,100,000,000
Perfect Cell – 1,500,000,000
Full Speed – 1,800,000,000
Full Power – 2,250,000,000
Bulked Up – 2,750,000,000
"Super Perfect" – 3,000,000,000[/spoiler]
Future Arc II
[spoiler]Trunks – 22,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,100,000,000
3 Years Later – 25,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,250,000,000
Future Android 18 – 180,000,000
Future Android 17 – 200,000,000
Cell – 240,000,000[/spoiler]
Buu Arc
[spoiler]Son Goku – 40,000,000
Super Saiyan – 2,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 4,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 – 10,000,000,000
Vegeta – 35,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,750,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 3,500,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 [Majin boost] – 4,000,000,000
Son Gohan – 30,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,500,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 3,000,000,000
Ultimate – 30,000,000,000
Son Goten – 20,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,000,000,000
Post-RoSaT – 23,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,150,000,000
Trunks – 21,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,050,000,000
Post-RoSaT – 23,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,150,000,000
Gotenks – 4,000,000,000
Super Saiyan – 10,000,000,000
Post-RoSaT – 5,000,000,000
Super Saiyan – 12,500,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 – 25,000,000,000
Vegetto – 40,000,000,000
Super Saiyan – 100,000,000,000
Piccolo – 1,200,000,000
Android 18 – 180,000,000
Tenshinhan – 25,000
Kuririn – 12,500
Yamcha – 8,000
Chaozu – 6,000
Dende – 2,500
Grand Kaioshin – 7,500,000,000
Kaioshin of the South – 12,500,000,000
Kaioshin of the North – 2,000,000,000
Kaioshin of the West – 1,800,000,000
Rou Kaioshin – 1,500,000
Kibito – 20,000,000
Kaioshin of the East - 1,500,000,000
Merged – 8,000,000,000
Babidi – 10
Pui Pui – 10,000
Yakon – 50,000,000
Dabra – 2,500,000,000
Pure Boo – 10,000,000,000
Buff Boo – 22,500,000,000
Majin Boo – 9,000,000,000
Evil Boo – 5,000,000,000
Good Boo – 4,000,000,000
Super Boo – 20,000,000,000
+ Gotenks – 45,000,000,000
+ Son Gohan – 50,000,000,000[/spoiler]
28th Tenkaichi Budokai Arc
[spoiler]Son Goku – 50,000,000
Super Saiyan – 2,500,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 5,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 – 12,500,000,000
Vegeta – 45,000,000
Super Saiyan – 2,250,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 4,500,000,000
Son Goten – 28,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,400,000,000
Trunks – 28,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,400,000,000
Son Gohan – 30,000,000,000
Mister Boo – 4,000,000,000
Piccolo – 1,500,000,000
Oob – 50,000,000
Pan – 2,000,000[/spoiler]
Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread
I think you shouldn't bother listing power levels of characters with very few feats or information about their powers. Like Chaozu and Yamcha in Buu arc, or all the Kaioshins except for the main one and the buff one who used to be the strongest. Listing Chaozu at all after the Saiyan arc doesn't make much sense to me, he doesn't even show up for the androids or the Cell Games.VegetaSSJBlue wrote: Power Levels
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread
The gaps you have between Goku and Vegeta in the Cell & Buu Arcs are too small.VegetaSSJBlue wrote:I made a new list based on your feedback. Please correct me if you spot errors!
MULTIPLIERS
Oozaru – 10x
Super Saiyan – 50x
Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 75x
Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 105x
Super Saiyan 2 – 100x
Super Saiyan 3 – 250x
Raditz Arc
[spoiler]Son Gohan – 1
Enraged – 1,307
Son Goku – 416
Piccolo – 408
Tenshinhan – 250
Kuririn – 206
Yamcha – 177
Chaozu – 150
Yajirobe – 145
Muten Roshi – 139
Kaio of the North – 5,000
Enma Daio – 2,500
Kami of Earth – 325
Mr. Popo – 275
Raditz – 1,200
Oozaru – 12,000[/spoiler]
Saiyan Arc
[spoiler]Son Goku – 8,000
Kaio-Ken x2 – 16,000
Kaio-Ken x3 – 24,000
Kaio-Ken x4 – 32,000
Son Gohan – 1,200
Enraged – 2,800
Oozaru – 12,000
Piccolo – 2,500
Tenshinhan – 1,800
Kuririn – 1,500
Yamcha – 1,300
Chaozu – 1,000
Yajirobe – 800
Saibaimen – 1,200
Nappa – 7,500
Oozaru – 75,000
Vegeta – 18,000
Oozaru – 180,000[/spoiler]
Namek Arc
[spoiler]Son Goku – 60,000
Kaio-Ken x3 – 180,000
Kaio-Ken x10 – 600,000
Vegeta – 24,000
Post-recovery – 30,000
Post-recovery 2 – 50,000
Son Gohan – 1,500
Power Unlocked – 12,000
Post-recovery – 30,000
Kuririn – 1,500
Power Unlocked – 11,000
Dende – 250
Power Unlocked – 1,000
Muri – 1,500
Young Namekians – 3,000
Nail – 42,000
Freeza – 530,000
Freeza Soldiers – 1,250
Kwi – 18,000
Dodoria – 20,000
Zarbon – 22,000
Transformed – 30,000
Gurd – 2,500
Recoome – 40,000
Butta – 40,000
Jheese – 40,000
Captain Ginyu – 120,000[/spoiler]
Freeza Arc
[spoiler]Son Goku – 2,000,000
Kaio-Ken x10 – 20,000,000
Kaio-Ken x20 – 40,000,000
Super Saiyan – 100,000,000
Vegeta – 500,000
Post-recovery – 1,700,000
Son Gohan – 100,000
Enraged – 750,000
Post-recovery – 400,000
Enraged – 1,500,000
Piccolo – 120,000
Merged with Nail – 1,200,000
Kuririn – 11,000
Freeza – 530,000
Second Form – 800,000
Power-Up 1 – 900,000
Power-Up 2 – 1,050,000
Third Form – 1,575,000
True Form – 2,100,000
50% Power – 47,500,000
70% Power – 66,500,000
100% Power – 95,000,000[/spoiler]
Mecha Freeza Arc
[spoiler]Son Goku – 2,400,000
Super Saiyan – 120,000,000
Trunks – 2,300,000
Super Saiyan – 115,000,000
Vegeta – 2,000,000
Piccolo – 1,500,000
Son Gohan – 400,000
Tenshinhan – 16,000
Kuririn – 12,000
Yamcha – 8,000
Chaozu – 4,000
Freeza Soldiers – 1,250
King Cold – 90,000,000
Mecha Freeza – 100,000,000[/spoiler]
Future Arc I
[spoiler]Future Gohan – 2,200,000
Super Saiyan – 110,000,000
Kid Trunks – 40,000
Super Saiyan – 2,000,000
Future Android 18 – 180,000,000
Future Android 17 – 200,000,000[/spoiler]
Artificial Human Arc
[spoiler]Vegeta – 3,000,000
Super Saiyan – 150,000,000
Son Goku – 2,880,000
Super Saiyan – 144,000,000
Trunks – 2,500,000
Super Saiyan – 125,000,000
Piccolo – 100,000,000
Gohan – 2,000,000
Tenshinhan – 20,000
Kuririn – 15,000
Yamcha – 10,000
Chaozu – 5,000
Android 19 – 50,000,000
Post-absorption – 75,000,000
Android 20 – 60,000,000
Post-absorption – 80,000,000
Android 18 – 180,000,000
Android 17 – 200,000,000
Android 16 – 240,000,000
Cell – 160,000,000[/spoiler]
Cell Arc
[spoiler]Vegeta – 6,400,000
Super Saiyan – 320,000,000
Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 480,000,000
Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 672,000,000
Trunks – 6,200,000
Super Saiyan – 310,000,000
Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 465,000,000
Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 651,000,000
Piccolo – 200,000,000
Android 18 – 180,000,000
Android 17 – 200,000,000
Android 16 – 240,000,000
Cell – 240,000,000
Second Form – 320,000,000
Full Power – 400,000,000
Perfect Form – 450,000,000
Power Up – 600,000,000
Bulked Up – 750,000,000[/spoiler]
Cell Games Arc
[spoiler]Son Gohan – 36,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,800,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 3,600,000,000
Injured – 1,750,000,000
Son Goku – 30,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,500,000,000
Vegeta – 22,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,100,000,000
Trunks – 22,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,100,000,000
Piccolo – 900,000,000
Android 16 – 240,000,000
Cell Juniors – 1,100,000,000
Perfect Cell – 1,500,000,000
Full Speed – 1,800,000,000
Full Power – 2,250,000,000
Bulked Up – 2,750,000,000
"Super Perfect" – 3,000,000,000[/spoiler]
Future Arc II
[spoiler]Trunks – 22,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,100,000,000
3 Years Later – 25,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,250,000,000
Future Android 18 – 180,000,000
Future Android 17 – 200,000,000
Cell – 240,000,000[/spoiler]
Buu Arc
[spoiler]Son Goku – 40,000,000
Super Saiyan – 2,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 4,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 – 10,000,000,000
Vegeta – 35,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,750,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 3,500,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 [Majin boost] – 4,000,000,000
Son Gohan – 30,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,500,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 3,000,000,000
Ultimate – 30,000,000,000
Son Goten – 20,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,000,000,000
Post-RoSaT – 23,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,150,000,000
Trunks – 21,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,050,000,000
Post-RoSaT – 23,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,150,000,000
Gotenks – 4,000,000,000
Super Saiyan – 10,000,000,000
Post-RoSaT – 5,000,000,000
Super Saiyan – 12,500,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 – 25,000,000,000
Vegetto – 40,000,000,000
Super Saiyan – 100,000,000,000
Piccolo – 1,200,000,000
Android 18 – 180,000,000
Tenshinhan – 25,000
Kuririn – 12,500
Yamcha – 8,000
Chaozu – 6,000
Dende – 2,500
Grand Kaioshin – 7,500,000,000
Kaioshin of the South – 12,500,000,000
Kaioshin of the North – 2,000,000,000
Kaioshin of the West – 1,800,000,000
Rou Kaioshin – 1,500,000
Kibito – 20,000,000
Kaioshin of the East - 1,500,000,000
Merged – 8,000,000,000
Babidi – 10
Pui Pui – 10,000
Yakon – 50,000,000
Dabra – 2,500,000,000
Pure Boo – 10,000,000,000
Buff Boo – 22,500,000,000
Majin Boo – 9,000,000,000
Evil Boo – 5,000,000,000
Good Boo – 4,000,000,000
Super Boo – 20,000,000,000
+ Gotenks – 45,000,000,000
+ Son Gohan – 50,000,000,000[/spoiler]
28th Tenkaichi Budokai Arc
[spoiler]Son Goku – 50,000,000
Super Saiyan – 2,500,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 5,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 – 12,500,000,000
Vegeta – 45,000,000
Super Saiyan – 2,250,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 4,500,000,000
Son Goten – 28,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,400,000,000
Trunks – 28,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,400,000,000
Son Gohan – 30,000,000,000
Mister Boo – 4,000,000,000
Piccolo – 1,500,000,000
Oob – 50,000,000
Pan – 2,000,000[/spoiler]



