The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

[TheUltimateNinja]

Goku went from 8,000 to 150,000,000 in 6 days.

Goku only achieved that insane level of progress solely because of Zenkai's, gravity training and the hyperbolic time chamber, stuff that Freeza didn't have. Also when did Goku become as strong as Freeza in his base form?

If you're not counting transformations then even after his training Freeza is still too weak to beat even Base Goku.

[Gog]

Goku went from 8,000 to 150,000,000 in 6 days.

Goku only achieved that insane level of progress solely because of Zenkai's, gravity training and the hyperbolic time chamber, stuff that Freeza didn't have. Also when did Goku become as strong as Freeza in his base form?

If you're not counting transformations then even after his training Freeza is still too weak to beat even Base Goku.

Yes, but we're talking about Goku who ascended to Saiyan Beyond God. And discounting the fact that Freeza was too weak too beat Saiyan Beyond God Goku, Freeza still managed to successfully leap frog his way from a pitiful power level of 150 million too the same range as Saiyan Beyond God Goku. In four months of training.

What if?

Future Gohan never died against the androids?

[Vegetail]

What if?

Future Gohan never died against the androids?

Trunks may or may not have still acheived Super Saiyan, depending on what happened between Future Gohan's would-be death and the initial time traveling.
It's also POSSIBLE that the Time Machine would have been a two seater instead, in which case Cell wouldn't have needed to revert to his larval stage.

Basically, either nothing changes in any meaningful way, or everyone is royally screwed.

[TheUltimateNinja]

What if?

Future Gohan never died against the androids?

Trunks may or may not have still acheived Super Saiyan, depending on what happened between Future Gohan's would-be death and the initial time traveling.
It's also POSSIBLE that the Time Machine would have been a two seater instead, in which case Cell wouldn't have needed to revert to his larval stage.

Basically, either nothing changes in any meaningful way, or everyone is royally screwed.

In the manga Trunks was already a Super Saiyan before Gohan died.

[Gog]

What if?

Beerus never woke up from his slumber?

[Vegetail]

What if?

Future Gohan never died against the androids?

Trunks may or may not have still acheived Super Saiyan, depending on what happened between Future Gohan's would-be death and the initial time traveling.
It's also POSSIBLE that the Time Machine would have been a two seater instead, in which case Cell wouldn't have needed to revert to his larval stage.

Basically, either nothing changes in any meaningful way, or everyone is royally screwed.

In the manga Trunks was already a Super Saiyan before Gohan died.

Super contradicts the manga on that, if I recall.

[TheUltimateNinja]

What if?

Beerus never woke up from his slumber?

Freeza would seemingly win against SSJ3 Vegetto, but would get killed when he gets caught off guard by Piccolo's Makankosappo.

Trunks may or may not have still acheived Super Saiyan, depending on what happened between Future Gohan's would-be death and the initial time traveling.
It's also POSSIBLE that the Time Machine would have been a two seater instead, in which case Cell wouldn't have needed to revert to his larval stage.

Basically, either nothing changes in any meaningful way, or everyone is royally screwed.

In the manga Trunks was already a Super Saiyan before Gohan died.

Super contradicts the manga on that, if I recall.

Only the anime, I don't think the manga version does.

[Noah]

What if?

Beerus never woke up from his slumber?

Freeza would seemingly win against SSJ3 Vegetto, but would get killed when he gets caught off guard by Piccolo's Makankosappo.

That doesn't make a friggin sense...

[TheUltimateNinja]

What if?

Beerus never woke up from his slumber?

Freeza would seemingly win against SSJ3 Vegetto, but would get killed when he gets caught off guard by Piccolo's Makankosappo.

That doesn't make a friggin sense...

He'd get overconfident and drop his guard when he thinks he's won, but Piccolo would get him from behind.

[Noah]

He'd get overconfident and drop his guard when he thinks he's won, but Piccolo would get him from behind.

That's Goku, not Freeza mate

[TheUltimateNinja]

He'd get overconfident and drop his guard when he thinks he's won, but Piccolo would get him from behind.

That's Goku, not Freeza mate

Freeza would do the same thing.

[miguelnuva1]

What if?

Beerus never woke up from his slumber?

The events of Dragonball GT play out.

[TheUltimateNinja]

What if Tenshinhan was an alien and could use Kaioken?

[Ki Breaker]

What if Tenshinhan was an alien and could use Kaioken?

He is an alien, just not enough to be useful against Saiyans, his heritage is pretty old after all..

It won't be any different than what he is now, not a lot of Aliens can grow stronger, ginyu force were mutants and were the strongest after freeza, the common..
It would go just as it went originally..

Can he use kaioken from birth? If That's the case he kills goku during the tournament.. we know hiw it will go after that..
If king kai teaches him we get one extra bag of meat for freeza to punch..

At max he would tap out below or at piccolo levels..

[Noah]

Freeza would do the same thing.

No he wouldn't and Piccolo's Makankosappo wouldn't even scratch on him.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Freeza would do the same thing.

No he wouldn't and Piccolo's Makankosappo wouldn't even scratch on him.

Yes he would and Piccolo's Makankosappo would easily pierce him. He let his guard down on Namek and let Piccolo kick him away from Goku and again let his guard down and totally forgot about the Spirit Bomb which allowed Goku to launch it from behind him.

[Gog]

Freeza would do the same thing.

No he wouldn't and Piccolo's Makankosappo wouldn't even scratch on him.

Yes he would and Piccolo's Makankosappo would easily pierce him. He let his guard down on Namek and let Piccolo kick him away from Goku and again let his guard down and totally forgot about the Spirit Bomb which allowed Goku to launch it from behind him.

But this is Freeza, the guy who survived with less than 75% of his body intact. The Makankosappo wouldn't kill him. Unless he was either in the first, second or third form. Then Piccolo would become the savior of the day at last.

What if?

The Omni king was a murderous man child?

[TheUltimateNinja]

No he wouldn't and Piccolo's Makankosappo wouldn't even scratch on him.

Yes he would and Piccolo's Makankosappo would easily pierce him. He let his guard down on Namek and let Piccolo kick him away from Goku and again let his guard down and totally forgot about the Spirit Bomb which allowed Goku to launch it from behind him.

But this is Freeza, the guy who survived with less than 75% of his body intact. The Makankosappo wouldn't kill him. Unless he was either in the first, second or third form. Then Piccolo would become the savior of the day at last.

A Makankosappo through the head would kill even Freeza, or at least weaken him enough for SSJ3 Vegetto to finish him.

What if?

The Omni king was a murderous man child?

He would destroy several universes for little to no reason.

[Alruneia]

What if?

The Omni king was a murderous man child?

That's not an if. The guy destroyed everything in Trunks' timeline simply because Zamasu was annoying him.

[Gog]

Yes he would and Piccolo's Makankosappo would easily pierce him. He let his guard down on Namek and let Piccolo kick him away from Goku and again let his guard down and totally forgot about the Spirit Bomb which allowed Goku to launch it from behind him.

But this is Freeza, the guy who survived with less than 75% of his body intact. The Makankosappo wouldn't kill him. Unless he was either in the first, second or third form. Then Piccolo would become the savior of the day at last.

A Makankosappo through the head would kill even Freeza, or at least weaken him enough for SSJ3 Vegetto to finish him.

If he fires a Makankosappa through the head then their would be no need for SS3 Vegetto and even then I don't think Piccolo would be able to get him through the head as this is dragon ball.

What if?

The Omni king wasn't a murderous man child?

He would destroy several universes for little to no reason.

Not the what if I was trying to ask.

What if?

The Omni king wasn't a murderous man child?

That's not an if. The guy destroyed everything in Trunks' timeline simply because Zamasu was annoying him.

I meant Wasn't! Sorry for not specifying