Can Gohan's Ultimate state surpass the level it was at in the Buu Arc?

[TheUltimateNinja]

Rou Kaioshin said it would unlock all of Gohan's hidden potential and more, and take it way, way beyond the limits so I don't see how it's possible for Gohan to get even more power on top of that.

[precita]

Well this was before they discovered God Ki.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Well this was before they discovered God Ki.

I meant obtain more power through normal training. I can accept him becoming more powerful if he trains with Whis to obtain God ki or something like that.

[pacz360]

Yes remember vegeta said in the u6 arc that gohan has the highest potential outta of him and goku then you have champa commenting how tough he is in the baseball episode also goku two episodes back mentioning gohan potential then you have recent scans implying being much stronger than he was against super buu.
Plus look at f.trunks he went from ssj2 tier at best to trading blows with ssjb tier fighters in a few days and if a guy's like trunks could become god tier then gohan should more or less can too.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Yes remember vegeta said in the u6 arc that gohan has the highest potential outta of him and goku then you have champa commenting how tough he is in the baseball episode also goku two episodes back mentioning gohan potential then you have recent scans implying being much stronger than he was against super buu.
Plus look at f.trunks he went from ssj2 tier at best to trading blows with ssjb tier fighters in a few days and if a guy's like trunks could become god tier then gohan should more or less can too.

Besides obtaining God ki I don't see how it's possible, though. His Ultimate state should be the limit of his potential.

[Yedis]

The Elder Kai could be wrong, just like he was about the Potara fusion.

[TheUltimateNinja]

The Elder Kai could be wrong, just like he was about the Potara fusion.

One retcon was bad enough, I don't want to deal with another.

[Totamo]

Yeah sure why not, I mean, Guru unlocked all his potential in the namek saga and he got stronger than that.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Yeah sure why not, I mean, Guru unlocked all his potential in the namek saga and he got stronger than that.

I don't recall Guru saying he unlocked all of it, unlike Rou Kaioshin who said he'd not only bring all of it out, but take it way beyond its limits as well.

[Tsufuru]

his full potencial was unlocked but nothing stops him from making his potencial bigger through training.

you want to tell me even if ultimate gohan trained for 10 years he wont get stronger?

[TheUltimateNinja]

his full potencial was unlocked but nothing stops him from making his potencial bigger through training.

you want to tell me even if ultimate gohan trained for 10 years he wont get stronger?

Not much stronger. Maybe a small boost like 10%.

[Beyond]

If Super was written with concrete PL then he would be on his way to doing so already. His base is already even or slightly ahead of Piccolo, so his SS form is probably above good buu. When ultimate comes back he should be a good deal stronger than he was before, but with the way PL are set up in super, idk.

[Makaioshin]

There have been potential unlocking rituals in the series since the Ultra Divine Water was introduced in the Piccolo Daimao arc and the characters have far surpassed that. If this were the in-universe section I guess the argument would have to be made whether or not he could or could not surpass an assumed limit on his potential without God ki. But this isn't that section. If they want to make him stronger they will and they don't even have to give a full explanation. It worked with Trunks, Vegeta, Tagoma, and Freeza.

[TheUltimateNinja]

There have been potential unlocking rituals in the series since the Ultra Divine Water was introduced in the Piccolo Daimao arc and the characters have far surpassed that. If this were the in-universe section I guess the argument would have to be made whether or not he could or could not surpass an assumed limit on his potential without God ki. But this isn't that section. If they want to make him stronger they will and they don't even have to give a full explanation. It worked with Trunks, Vegeta, Tagoma, and Freeza.

The difference is that the God Water was stated to only unlock what you could have obtained until then through training.

[ChronoTwigger]

Think of RPG.
You got experience points, you fill the exp bar.
Rou just gave him enough exp to fill the experience bar up to lvl 50 (his cap at the moment, random guess) in just one shot...
But you get many hints that this level cap can increase (or even decrease by acting lazy). So Gohan could reach higher levels cap, then train-get boost-practice to become stronger.
It's quite difficult to explain with words, a graph will surely be better to show this.

[Hugo Boss]

The question is: why not? They have been surpassing their limits all the time. I think with the right circumstances Gohan can get stronger. He seems to have realized he needs to, he just did nothing yet.

[Kassavo]

Absolutely it can. The way I interpret the Ultimate Gohan form is that all of his natural potential AT THAT POINT IN TIME was unlocked in one shot. Another way to think about his ultimate form is to imagine that is how strong he would have been at that point if he had continued training after the cell games; basically his power was brought out to the level it could and should have been at if he had kept training, like vegeta did.

DB is a series that shows training can allow a character to surpass all of their limits, even if that limit previously was thought to be their max or cap.

But to answer OP's question more directly, yes I think his ultimate state will surpass the Buu Arc level because I think this will be the Gohan arc, just as the last arc was the Future Trunks lovefest.

[Zamasu55]

Current Gohan is stronger than Mystic Gohan.

[Kassavo]

Current Gohan is stronger than Mystic Gohan.

I'm not entirely sure that is the case. If he was, then that would make Gohan the strongest he's ever been, and if he was the strongest he's ever been in the series, I think they would write him as more confident than they have.

What makes you think he is stronger than vs Super Buu?

[Kagari]

They seem to be hyping him up as a return to form in official media. I'm sure he'll get something... gotta push video games and other merchandise after all. Personally I'd love them to focus on improving Ultimate Gohan rather than giving him Blue. Anything but that.