Hit vs Goku Tournament Finale...Yay or Nay?

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Re: Hit vs Goku Tournament Finale...Yay or Nay?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:13 pm

Bullza wrote:No. What I want is them to hype up the idea of Goku and Hit fighting again in the Tournament this time without holding back but that fight never happens due to Hit being unexpectedly and mercilessly stomped by another character we haven't seen yet who will be the real final opponent for Goku.
What I really want to happen is for the guy who stomps Hit to get oneshotted by an even stronger character who will be the real final opponent for Goku.

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Re: Hit vs Goku Tournament Finale...Yay or Nay?

Post by Bullza » Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:35 pm

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Bullza wrote:No. What I want is them to hype up the idea of Goku and Hit fighting again in the Tournament this time without holding back but that fight never happens due to Hit being unexpectedly and mercilessly stomped by another character we haven't seen yet who will be the real final opponent for Goku.
What I really want to happen is for the guy who stomps Hit to get oneshotted by an even stronger character who will be the real final opponent for Goku.
After Universe 7 wins against Universe 9 I want Goku to be like "Hey let's go and see how Hit's doing in his match, I'm sure he's gotten even stronger since we last fought!".

Then when they go over there they see that the match is actually already over and some unknown character is just standing there with his hand clamped around Hits throat who is now either unconscious or dead.

Cue the shocked expression on Goku and Vegeta's faces.

Cue the fanbase being all "Omfg this guy just beat Hit to death who is this guy and how is Goku gonna beat someone this strong when he could hardly beat him anyway!"

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Re: Hit vs Goku Tournament Finale...Yay or Nay?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Feb 27, 2017 8:36 pm

Bullza wrote: After Universe 7 wins against Universe 9 I want Goku to be like "Hey let's go and see how Hit's doing in his match, I'm sure he's gotten even stronger since we last fought!".

Then when they go over there they see that the match is actually already over and some unknown character is just standing there with his hand clamped around Hits throat who is now either unconscious or dead.

Cue the shocked expression on Goku and Vegeta's faces.

Cue the fanbase being all "Omfg this guy just beat Hit to death who is this guy and how is Goku gonna beat someone this strong when he could hardly beat him anyway!"
And then in the semi finals some mysterious dude oneshots that character.

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Re: Hit vs Goku Tournament Finale...Yay or Nay?

Post by TheMathemagician » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:11 pm

Kassavo wrote:Nay. way to beat a dead horse, and honestly I think that would be boring. There is nothing else to offer in a Hit vs Goku fight. Hit vs Piccolo would be more interesting imo.

I really would like Piccolo to get a real fight (not like vs frost) as we didn't really see him fight at all in the Buu Arc.
Wouldn't Piccolo just get stomped? I wouldn't want Piccolo to just fight a guy that would just clobber him.
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Bullza wrote: After Universe 7 wins against Universe 9 I want Goku to be like "Hey let's go and see how Hit's doing in his match, I'm sure he's gotten even stronger since we last fought!".

Then when they go over there they see that the match is actually already over and some unknown character is just standing there with his hand clamped around Hits throat who is now either unconscious or dead.

Cue the shocked expression on Goku and Vegeta's faces.

Cue the fanbase being all "Omfg this guy just beat Hit to death who is this guy and how is Goku gonna beat someone this strong when he could hardly beat him anyway!"
And then in the semi finals some mysterious dude oneshots that character.
All of this would be hilarious if this happened.
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Re: Hit vs Goku Tournament Finale...Yay or Nay?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:14 pm

TheMathemagician wrote:
Kassavo wrote:Nay. way to beat a dead horse, and honestly I think that would be boring. There is nothing else to offer in a Hit vs Goku fight. Hit vs Piccolo would be more interesting imo.

I really would like Piccolo to get a real fight (not like vs frost) as we didn't really see him fight at all in the Buu Arc.
Wouldn't Piccolo just get stomped? I wouldn't want Piccolo to just fight a guy that would just clobber him.
I'd love to watch it happen, Hit wouldn't even need to use the timeskip.

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Re: Hit vs Goku Tournament Finale...Yay or Nay?

Post by YajirobiTheGreat » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:35 pm

As others have said, use Hit for the Worf Effect, have a greater threat crush Hit. Three fights with Goku in such a short period of time would be too much. If not that, have Vegeta beat an improved Hit with great difficulty to show how far Vegeta has come.

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Re: Hit vs Goku Tournament Finale...Yay or Nay?

Post by YajirobiTheGreat » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:43 pm

Kassavo wrote:Nay. way to beat a dead horse, and honestly I think that would be boring. There is nothing else to offer in a Hit vs Goku fight. Hit vs Piccolo would be more interesting imo.

I really would like Piccolo to get a real fight (not like vs frost) as we didn't really see him fight at all in the Buu Arc.
As great as that would be, it would require a huge powerup for Piccolo that hasn't been hinted at since before the Universe 6/7 tournament. I fear that if they were going to make Piccolo relevant again, that it would have been hinted at several times by now and we would have seen Piccolo training hard somewhere. The fact that Piccolo turned down the chance of training with Goku/Vegeta before and showed no interest at reentering the previous tournament tells me that Piccolo is not getting another powerup. I'd go as far as to say that when Piccolo decided not to train again in the ROSAT a second time before the Cell Games, Toriyama and Toei were done with him then and everything since has just been fan service.

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Re: Hit vs Goku Tournament Finale...Yay or Nay?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:56 pm

YajirobiTheGreat wrote:
Kassavo wrote:Nay. way to beat a dead horse, and honestly I think that would be boring. There is nothing else to offer in a Hit vs Goku fight. Hit vs Piccolo would be more interesting imo.

I really would like Piccolo to get a real fight (not like vs frost) as we didn't really see him fight at all in the Buu Arc.
As great as that would be, it would require a huge powerup for Piccolo that hasn't been hinted at since before the Universe 6/7 tournament. I fear that if they were going to make Piccolo relevant again, that it would have been hinted at several times by now and we would have seen Piccolo training hard somewhere. The fact that Piccolo turned down the chance of training with Goku/Vegeta before and showed no interest at reentering the previous tournament tells me that Piccolo is not getting another powerup. I'd go as far as to say that when Piccolo decided not to train again in the ROSAT a second time before the Cell Games, Toriyama and Toei were done with him then and everything since has just been fan service.
Yeah, as of right now Piccolo's just too weak to fight any relevant characters.

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Re: Hit vs Goku Tournament Finale...Yay or Nay?

Post by Shinda Forever » Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:27 am

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Shinda Forever wrote:I would be pleased since they are building a nice rivalry and it would make sense since Hitto showed that he can keep up with Goku and left Vegeta behind, however, it won't happen since universe 6 and 7 won't fight again. No one is taking out Hitto easily, he is too special to be treated like fodder and furthermore, he has a tremendous special ability very hard to beat. I loved how Hitto destroyed Vegeta, it was a total annihilation.
Hit really isn't any more special than previous characters that have been used as hype material. Not to mention this is Dragon Ball, a series that doesn't really mind making a powerful and skilled character look like garbage to the next big opponent.
I don't know what characters you are talking about. One thing is certain, in the rematch against Goku, Hitto was able to keep up with him, so how can he become garbage suddenly? Hitto was shown to be a special character, he destroyed Vegeta like a bug and forced Goku to use KK x20 and yet Goku couldn't beat him. If you make an analogy with what happened in previous tournaments it is easy to reach a conclusion, for instance Tenshinhan wasn't garbage in the 23º BT neither was Piccolo when Raditz came to the Earth, therefore, in my opinion i see no reason to think he will be defeated early and easily. Hitto is not Nam.

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Shinda Forever wrote:However, since we see Vegeta fighting the fat lady from universe 6, we can't be sure, anyway, that confrontation would happen only when 4 universes remain in the competition i believe.
Do we know for sure she's from U6?
No, it hasn't been confirmed what universe she's from.
She is behind Hitto and close to Magetta in the intro implying that she will be in the Universe 6 team.

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Bullza wrote:No. What I want is them to hype up the idea of Goku and Hit fighting again in the Tournament this time without holding back but that fight never happens due to Hit being unexpectedly and mercilessly stomped by another character we haven't seen yet who will be the real final opponent for Goku.
What I really want to happen is for the guy who stomps Hit to get oneshotted by an even stronger character who will be the real final opponent for Goku.
After Universe 7 wins against Universe 9 I want Goku to be like "Hey let's go and see how Hit's doing in his match, I'm sure he's gotten even stronger since we last fought!".

Then when they go over there they see that the match is actually already over and some unknown character is just standing there with his hand clamped around Hits throat who is now either unconscious or dead.

Cue the shocked expression on Goku and Vegeta's faces.

Cue the fanbase being all "Omfg this guy just beat Hit to death who is this guy and how is Goku gonna beat someone this strong when he could hardly beat him anyway!"
This is not Bleach and Hitto is not Zaraki. It won't happen in my opinion.
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Re: Hit vs Goku Tournament Finale...Yay or Nay?

Post by sangofe » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:06 am

KingKaash wrote:Let's just say the last fighters standing at the end of the Tournament of Power are Hit from U6 and Goku from U7. Would you be happy or disappointed to see them fight it out for what will probably be the last time? Or would you rather see someone else face Goku in the finale? From the Opening Song guy shown fighting Goku and the scene of Toppo, it seems that there could be someone else left standing to fight at the end. I'm including Goku in the finale because he's the protagonist so I'm sure he'll make it.

For me personally, I'd rather have a Hit vs Goku Semi-Final kind of thing and then Goku face someone else in the finale
God forbid that from happening...

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Re: Hit vs Goku Tournament Finale...Yay or Nay?

Post by TheMathemagician » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:08 am

Shinda Forever wrote:
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Shinda Forever wrote:I would be pleased since they are building a nice rivalry and it would make sense since Hitto showed that he can keep up with Goku and left Vegeta behind, however, it won't happen since universe 6 and 7 won't fight again. No one is taking out Hitto easily, he is too special to be treated like fodder and furthermore, he has a tremendous special ability very hard to beat. I loved how Hitto destroyed Vegeta, it was a total annihilation.
Hit really isn't any more special than previous characters that have been used as hype material. Not to mention this is Dragon Ball, a series that doesn't really mind making a powerful and skilled character look like garbage to the next big opponent.
I don't know what characters you are talking about. One thing is certain, in the rematch against Goku, Hitto was able to keep up with him, so how can he become garbage suddenly? Hitto was shown to be a special character, he destroyed Vegeta like a bug and forced Goku to use KK x20 and yet Goku couldn't beat him. If you make an analogy with what happened in previous tournaments it is easy to reach a conclusion, for instance Tenshinhan wasn't garbage in the 23º BT neither was Piccolo when Raditz came to the Earth, therefore, in my opinion i see no reason to think he will be defeated early and easily. Hitto is not Nam.

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Do we know for sure she's from U6?
No, it hasn't been confirmed what universe she's from.
She is behind Hitto and close to Magetta in the intro implying that she will be in the Universe 6 team.

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TheUltimateNinja wrote: What I really want to happen is for the guy who stomps Hit to get oneshotted by an even stronger character who will be the real final opponent for Goku.
After Universe 7 wins against Universe 9 I want Goku to be like "Hey let's go and see how Hit's doing in his match, I'm sure he's gotten even stronger since we last fought!".

Then when they go over there they see that the match is actually already over and some unknown character is just standing there with his hand clamped around Hits throat who is now either unconscious or dead.

Cue the shocked expression on Goku and Vegeta's faces.

Cue the fanbase being all "Omfg this guy just beat Hit to death who is this guy and how is Goku gonna beat someone this strong when he could hardly beat him anyway!"
This is not Bleach and Hitto is not Zaraki. It won't happen in my opinion.
Ten wasn't anything special after the 23rd, neither was Piccolo when Raditz showed up and then there's Nappa, who stomped Piccolo, then there's Veggie who got put in his place from Zarbon and the Ginyu Force. Frieza then gets humiliated by Trunks post-Namek. It's happened before. Hit really isn't any more special than other big shot characters that looked threatening and then got stomped/trolled/or owned later on. Ten was garbage to Goku by the 23rd tournament. Goku trolled the hell out of Tenshinhan. Piccolo became Goku's newest rival during the 23rd.

I'm not even saying Hit will get stomped out, but he really isn't all that special at all. It wouldn't be surprising in the slightest if he got stomped out.
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Re: Hit vs Goku Tournament Finale...Yay or Nay?

Post by The gr » Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:27 pm

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The gr wrote:I don't know if hit and Goku will have a rematch,I mean a rematch between Bergamo vs Goku is more likely than Goku vs hit
Bergamo sucks, if there's a rematch it'll probably happen in the quarter finals at the latest, I really doubt we'll be seeing him in the finals or even the semi finals.
We really don't know Bergamo capabilities or his personality,is too early to judge,a rematch between him and Goku will have more impact than Goku vs hit,by looking the episode 81 summary by herms
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Re: Hit vs Goku Tournament Finale...Yay or Nay?

Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:47 pm

Nay. We've seen that fight twice already. I'd rather have Goku go up against a different opponent in the final of the Tournament Of Power, should he reach it.

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Post by KingKaash » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:48 am

Lord Beerus wrote:Nay. We've seen that fight twice already. I'd rather have Goku go up against a different opponent in the final of the Tournament Of Power, should he reach it.
I agree that I'd rather see someone else standing at the end. But I do want to point out that in the two fights of Hit vs Goku, there has been no clear outcome. There hasn't been a winner and a loser. Both times it's been left at a stalemate. So I see the potential for them to declare a winner of those two in the future. But hopefully not in a finale sort of way.

And for those talking about the Alien Pride Trooper, the intro song does seem to suggest that he's going to be an important character. But at this point it's pure speculation to say he's going to be the last one standing to face Goku
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Re: Hit vs Goku Tournament Finale...Yay or Nay?

Post by TheMathemagician » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:00 am

KingKaash wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:Nay. We've seen that fight twice already. I'd rather have Goku go up against a different opponent in the final of the Tournament Of Power, should he reach it.
I agree that I'd rather see someone else standing at the end. But I do want to point out that in the two fights of Hit vs Goku, there has been no clear outcome. There hasn't been a winner and a loser. Both times it's been left at a stalemate. So I see the potential for them to declare a winner of those two in the future. But hopefully not in a finale sort of way.

And for those talking about the Alien Pride Trooper, the intro song does seem to suggest that he's going to be an important character. But at this point it's pure speculation to say he's going to be the last one standing to face Goku
Now this I agree with. There's nothing indicating Alien guy is going to be Goku's final opponent, but his prominence in the intro, and the V-Jump scan (when it could have shown any of his other teammates) seems to imply he'll be fairly important.
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Re: Hit vs Goku Tournament Finale...Yay or Nay?

Post by dragonballgeek » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:47 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Bullza wrote:No. What I want is them to hype up the idea of Goku and Hit fighting again in the Tournament this time without holding back but that fight never happens due to Hit being unexpectedly and mercilessly stomped by another character we haven't seen yet who will be the real final opponent for Goku.
What I really want to happen is for the guy who stomps Hit to get oneshotted by an even stronger character who will be the real final opponent for Goku.
That's generally what happens in animes unfortunately.

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