Goku's Name & Plothole
Goku's Name & Plothole
We know that his real name is Kakarot. But what about when Dragon Ball Episode 79 aired in Japan for the first time? Nobody knew about that.
It's an anime-exclusive episode that takes place before the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai.
Ginkaku and Kinkaku's gourd sucks in anyone who doesn't respond when the person's name is spoken.
One of the brothers says "Son Goku" and Goku, being Goku, doesn't respond. This in turn, leaves him trapped inside the gourd.
Wouldn't this be a plot-hole? How would you explain this without using the obvious out-of-universe excuse?
It's an anime-exclusive episode that takes place before the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai.
Ginkaku and Kinkaku's gourd sucks in anyone who doesn't respond when the person's name is spoken.
One of the brothers says "Son Goku" and Goku, being Goku, doesn't respond. This in turn, leaves him trapped inside the gourd.
Wouldn't this be a plot-hole? How would you explain this without using the obvious out-of-universe excuse?
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Re: Goku's Name & Plothole
Did they try calling any other person by a different name instead of their real name and the gourd didn't respond? Because, I think the Gourd activates only when a person does not respond to be called on by name. Regardless if the name is Kakaroto or not, once you failed to respond being called on then down you go.
By the way, I just saw the episode again in Spanish (latino) and it's so funny seeing Goku trying to trick "Oro and Plata" (that's their name in Spanish) into failing to respond to their names:
Oro-Plata-Plata-Oro-Oro-Plata!
By the way, I just saw the episode again in Spanish (latino) and it's so funny seeing Goku trying to trick "Oro and Plata" (that's their name in Spanish) into failing to respond to their names:
Oro-Plata-Plata-Oro-Oro-Plata!
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Re: Goku's Name & Plothole
Well no, but they also tried to capture a baby, yet they needed to know the baby's name to do it. So I definitely think they need the real name of the person in order for the gourd to work. I wonder if it'd work on a nameless person.successoroffate wrote:Did they try calling any other person by a different name instead of their real name and the gourd didn't respond? Because, I think the Gourd activates only when a person does not respond to be called on by name. Regardless if the name is Kakaroto or not, once you failed to respond being called on then down you go.
By the way, I just saw the episode again in Spanish (latino) and it's so funny seeing Goku trying to trick "Oro and Plata" (that's their name in Spanish) into failing to respond to their names:
Oro-Plata-Plata-Oro-Oro-Plata!
The "Ginkaku-Kinkaku" tongue twister from the original Japanese version was pretty hilarious too.
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Re: Goku's Name & Plothole
Just saw the bit in Japanese, Definitely funnier!DBZ Macky wrote:Well no, but they also tried to capture a baby, yet they needed to know the baby's name to do it. So I definitely think they need the real name of the person in order for the gourd to work. I wonder if it'd work on a nameless person.successoroffate wrote:Did they try calling any other person by a different name instead of their real name and the gourd didn't respond? Because, I think the Gourd activates only when a person does not respond to be called on by name. Regardless if the name is Kakaroto or not, once you failed to respond being called on then down you go.
By the way, I just saw the episode again in Spanish (latino) and it's so funny seeing Goku trying to trick "Oro and Plata" (that's their name in Spanish) into failing to respond to their names:
Oro-Plata-Plata-Oro-Oro-Plata!
The "Ginkaku-Kinkaku" tongue twister from the original Japanese version was pretty hilarious too.
Big Green: Do whateveryoulike, Ghos
Broly: haha He calls me a goohst, but IMMMD DA DEVVVVAAALLL! RAHAHAHAHA!
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Trunks: "Dhe computer selffishy intesnafiy dosuementos."
Android 13: Yum Boy
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Vegeta: The Legendary Warrior of SpaZe.
Broly: haha He calls me a goohst, but IMMMD DA DEVVVVAAALLL! RAHAHAHAHA!
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Trunks: "Dhe computer selffishy intesnafiy dosuementos."
Android 13: Yum Boy
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Vegeta: The Legendary Warrior of SpaZe.
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Re: Goku's Name & Plothole
I don't believe in your birth name defining what your real name is
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Re: Goku's Name & Plothole
A name is fairly arbitrary if you think about it in these terms. Why should his saiyan name have priority over his earthling name?
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Re: Goku's Name & Plothole
One's "real name" is not necessarily the one they were assigned at birth. In the case of a baby, that's the only name they have at this point (a baby doesn't have the intelligence required to choose what name they'd like to go by), so it's kind of an odd loophole sort of situation. But as for Goku... I seriously doubt he ever considered Kakarrot to be his "real name," it was only his "Saiyan name" -- basically, something weird that Vegeta and Raditz kept calling him instead of his real name. Even after he accepts his "Saiyan-ness" he still always introduces himself as Son Goku. Goku doesn't even know that he was once called Kakarrot at this point, he only goes by the name Son Goku... so of course that would be the name they'd use for him.Well no, but they also tried to capture a baby, yet they needed to know the baby's name to do it. So I definitely think they need the real name of the person in order for the gourd to work.
(How it'd work with a truly nameless person is an interesting thought, though. Would they have to say "hey, you" or something since a proper name doesn't exist? XD)
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Re: Goku's Name & Plothole
Maybe it works by the name they identify themselves by
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