Anime Kitten wrote:Well, to be fair, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's actually wrong.
Where did I comment anything about me liking it or not? It's not a matter of opinion, anyone who actually knows the basics of Dragon Ball knows that the only person who doesn't have drastic changes between Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2 is Vegeta due to his hairstyle. Anyway, I won't drag this any longer, I've already had this conversation before, more than once actually.
So I decided to get back into playing this (haven't picked up the DLC yet though), and all I gotta say is:
Extreme Malice can bite me. >:(
I know what to do, but holy hell is it difficult. Whose bright idea was to make the enemy only vulnerable to Ki Blasts? Doesn't help the move around so freaking much. I know Destructo Disc & Super Vegeta for example are your friends here, but even then...wow. I might try again later on today.
Keep trying to Z rank the last Super Pack 2 PQ, but it just will not let me get it. I don't get what I am doing wrong. I did the 20 ki blasts, 20 combo, 3 grabs, etc, and I keep getting S ranks.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
ZeroDio wrote:Hopefully they don't skim The Goku Black Arc
Cause we need
*Future Trunks (Super) Variant that has SSJ Rage
*Merged Zamasu
*Zamasu
*SSJ Rose Black
*Goku & Vegeta in their old clothes Variant that can go SSJ Blue
*Vegito Blue
So that's 4 Variants & 2 new Characters
But since the recent data mine says Rose Black has a different combo style then Regular Black
3 Variants & 3 New Characters
I really don't expect Super Saiyan Rage, don't ask me why, I just don't, if they put him in the game I'll be surprised. What they could do is giving him the Super Saiyan form and somehow correct his Super Saiyan 2 hair, so that there's point in having two transformations for him (and because his Super Saiyan 2 is done incorrectly).
Zamasu, Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black and Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Vegetto are already confirmed. Since they will cover the saga, I'm pretty sure that confirms Merged Zamasu as well (you can't have a saga without its "main boss").
I don't see the point in having old clothes with Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan form, but maybe they create models for that, if they don't, they'll probably give Goku and Vegeta their Movie 15's outfits throughout the saga, which I'll be amazed. They would have done something far more interesting and way cooler than the series itself (well, not to be surprised actually, since games nowadays are showing stuff more interesting than the main series ), instead of going back to old clothes which was unnecessary.
Problem with having Goku and Vegeta retaining their F outfits throughout the Goku Black arc is that how would you explain Vegetto retaining his standard Buu arc attire other than extreme lazyness? Vegetto would need a new design to correlate with the F outfits and I simply dont see DIMPS doing that. DB Heroes did a great good job redesigning Vegetto with Xeno Vegetto but they dont seem to be as creatively bankrupt as DIMPS is here when it comes to original content.
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Problem with having Goku and Vegeta retaining their F outfits throughout the Goku Black arc is that how would you explain Vegetto retaining his standard Buu arc attire other than extreme lazyness? Vegetto would need a new design to correlate with the F outfits
Ship's already sailed, there. Vegeta is wearing his Cell arc attire, and yet Vegetto's outfit doesn't reflect that.
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Problem with having Goku and Vegeta retaining their F outfits throughout the Goku Black arc is that how would you explain Vegetto retaining his standard Buu arc attire other than extreme lazyness? Vegetto would need a new design to correlate with the F outfits
Ship's already sailed, there. Vegeta is wearing his Cell arc attire, and yet Vegetto's outfit doesn't reflect that.
One of my biggest gripes with DIMPS. These were the same guys that gave us stuff like Cell absorbing Krillin and Buu absorbing Cell and Freeza in Budokai 2. All this refusing to use Heroes content to ensure Xenoverse has its own "identity" is only hurting the series in the long run. Meanwhile Heroes is running wild with their stuff like the Dark Star Dragon Balls, Putine and Gravy, Demon God Towa and Mechikibula. I love the Xenoverse games but compared to Heroes the content is pitifully lacking in terms of fresh material.
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Problem with having Goku and Vegeta retaining their F outfits throughout the Goku Black arc is that how would you explain Vegetto retaining his standard Buu arc attire other than extreme lazyness? Vegetto would need a new design to correlate with the F outfits
Ship's already sailed, there. Vegeta is wearing his Cell arc attire, and yet Vegetto's outfit doesn't reflect that.
I trough Vegeta armor was destroyed as an excuse for that.
Anyway, if they didn't bother into adding the new stage into (the sadly shitty) local mode, and giving the F outfits SS, I really doubt we will get Blues in old outfits as playable.
I wonder if they will make Merged Zamasu like some type of special boss. With tue halo and his Wall of Light, he's pretty much asking for it.
English is not my first language. Please excuse my gramatical mistakes.
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Problem with having Goku and Vegeta retaining their F outfits throughout the Goku Black arc is that how would you explain Vegetto retaining his standard Buu arc attire other than extreme lazyness? Vegetto would need a new design to correlate with the F outfits
Ship's already sailed, there. Vegeta is wearing his Cell arc attire, and yet Vegetto's outfit doesn't reflect that.
I trough Vegeta armor was destroyed as an excuse for that.
Anyway, if they didn't bother into adding the new stage into (the sadly shitty) local mode, and giving the F outfits SS, I really doubt we will get Blues in old outfits as playable.
I wonder if they will make Merged Zamasu like some type of special boss. With tue halo and his Wall of Light, he's pretty much asking for it.
I honestly doubt well see Merged Zamasu's degrading form with the purple deformed arm. In this game something like that more often than not warrants a entirely new character. Standard Merged Zamasu will likely be his debut appearance and then a transformation into the period where he gets that halo floating behind him. Then we get the usual supervillain version of that and call it a day for the Goku Black story mode portion.
Can someone help with the Super pack 2 last DLC PQ on PC? I can't for the life of me get that Z rank.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Zephyr wrote:
Ship's already sailed, there. Vegeta is wearing his Cell arc attire, and yet Vegetto's outfit doesn't reflect that.
I trough Vegeta armor was destroyed as an excuse for that.
Anyway, if they didn't bother into adding the new stage into (the sadly shitty) local mode, and giving the F outfits SS, I really doubt we will get Blues in old outfits as playable.
I wonder if they will make Merged Zamasu like some type of special boss. With tue halo and his Wall of Light, he's pretty much asking for it.
I honestly doubt well see Merged Zamasu's degrading form with the purple deformed arm. In this game something like that more often than not warrants a entirely new character. Standard Merged Zamasu will likely be his debut appearance and then a transformation into the period where he gets that halo floating behind him. Then we get the usual supervillain version of that and call it a day for the Goku Black story mode portion.
I was in fact talking about the halo form and his Wal of Light, the angel like monster. He could use some unique traits as the expert bosses o something like that. I mean, I really doubt it will happen, but it would be cool.
English is not my first language. Please excuse my gramatical mistakes.
Zephyr wrote:Ship's already sailed, there. Vegeta is wearing his Cell arc attire, and yet Vegetto's outfit doesn't reflect that.
I really liked how someone else defended that, even if it was basic: they said that Vegetto's outfit has always been a recolor of Gokū's. I mean, the only Vegeta parts of the outfit are the gloves and shoes.
Zephyr wrote:Ship's already sailed, there. Vegeta is wearing his Cell arc attire, and yet Vegetto's outfit doesn't reflect that.
I really liked how someone else defended that, even if it was basic: they said that Vegetto's outfit has always been a recolor of Gokū's. I mean, the only Vegeta parts of the outfit are the gloves and shoes.
Vegeta's parts of the outfit are the gloves, shoes and the undershirt. Though his colour is on the outer gi.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
Kanassa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
Kanassa wrote:Vegeta's parts of the outfit are the gloves, shoes and the undershirt. Though his colour is on the outer gi.
Vegeta's bodysuit... thing doesn't look quite the same as Gokū's (normally) blue undershirt. I also like to believe that Potara Fusions' first outfit is their permanent one, as that's never been established and thus, has never been contradicted.
Kanassa wrote:Vegeta's parts of the outfit are the gloves, shoes and the undershirt. Though his colour is on the outer gi.
Vegeta's bodysuit... thing doesn't look quite the same as Gokū's (normally) blue undershirt. I also like to believe that Potara Fusions' first outfit is their permanent one, as that's never been established and thus, has never been contradicted.
It's a possiability, but it's not the fun one.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
Spoiler:
HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
Kanassa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
Seriously...
They have already added Base Goku/Vegeta in Whis' Gi. What stopped them from simply adding the SSJ-transformation? It also could have been another variation..
Just in case it hasn't been said already, it's free for Xbox one this weekend. I personally think this should be its own thread to get the word out there though.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Maybe I should start making it a point not to comment when I'm not sure of something. Too many people know what they're talking about around here.
Disclaimer: I might get into a disagreement with you. Sometimes I might even get feisty about it. I'll never harbor negative feelings because of it though. I hope you feel the same way!
I made a bet with Alee9977 that Vegeta won't be beaten quickly by an opponent. If I lose, I switch my avatar to Vegeta getting beat by hit. If I win, he switches it to Vegeta holding Black by his hair. This will last a month.
It's not a matter of opinion, anyone who actually knows the basics of Dragon Ball knows that the only person who doesn't have drastic changes between Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2 is Vegeta due to his hairstyle. Anyway, I won't drag this any longer, I've already had this conversation before, more than once actually.
), instead of going back to old clothes which was unnecessary.
