"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Alruneia]

So female Broly joins episode 82?

https://www.google.com/amp/www.itechpos ... y-join.htm

If you didn't hear it from an official source or find it here (there's a site too), then it's most likely fake. I see absolutely no reason to trust this site you've linked.

[Octorockandroll]

I think it's too predictable to say 18, so maybe krillin?

Laughed at for being a park ranger?

I think he would be laughed at, But which Z fighter would laugh at him is debatable .

I legit could see Goku laughing at him.

Goku? It's not like Goku has ever meet the guy. It has to be either of these fighters:

Tien
Piccolo
Vegeta
Krillin
18


They all know him

Possibly Piccolo, since aside from 18 he's the only character on that list who had any sort of chemistry with 17.

[lord godly da don]

It really dosen't, a god wearing clothes to represent their universe is more possible than having mortal levels branded on their necks..
If that was the case it wouldn't be a surprise to berrus when mortal levels were revealed, he would have known all along..

Who said anything about mortal levels I can't care less about it I'm talking about the actual God's ranking not their universes and it didn't make sense for people to try and figure out what universe their from by those shapes because like I said most of them share the same shape

Great!
That doesn't make sense either, when goku asked who was stronger between champa and berrus it would have been explained instead of calling champa fat and thus weaker..

I might be wrong here but don't Angels have the same design in their bodies?
If power was the case it would be applicable to them too and whis is stronger than Vados or not won't be a thing..

Whis commented how judging based on strength is wrong Saiyan trait, it would be ironic for them to be wearing clothes representing their strength levels themselves..

What are you talking about I never said anything about angels and whis statement contradicts beerus who judged Goku by his strength when he first meet him

And how does champa being weaker than beers go against what I'm saying he's a out of shape fatass so it's obvious he's weaker vados basically said that

[omaro34]

I don't think the Goku vs Bergamo fight will last the whole episode. I think it will end early compared to the other fights and I think there will be a twist or a sign as to who really is pulling the strings (Grand Priest).

People saying Zeno's calculations on each Universe being based on societal/technological development and not power doesn't make sense to me. Zeno's mentality is that of a child, why would he care about something like that? He only cares about being entertained. Plus when Whis asks "Who's at the bottom"? The Grand Priest replies "Surely you can tell", and points at Universe 9's characters. That to me shows it's about power. Why else would the competition be called the "Tournament of Power"?

[perucho1990]

I don't think the Goku vs Bergamo fight will last the whole episode. I think it will end early compared to the other fights and I think there will be a twist or a sign as to who really is pulling the strings (Grand Priest).

People saying Zeno's calculations on each Universe being based on societal/technological development and not power doesn't make sense to me. Zeno's mentality is that of a child, why would he care about something like that? He only cares about being entertained. Plus when Whis asks "Who's at the bottom"? The Grand Priest replies "Surely you can tell", and points at Universe 9's characters. That to me shows it's about power. Why else would the competition be called the "Tournament of Power"?

If Goku squashes Bergamo, then he will be seen as a big villain in the eyes of the Hakaishins(Except U1,U5,U8,U12) for making them to be part of the tournament.

[alakazam^]

I can't believe no one has suggested that an Universe with a high civilational level could produce naturally stronger individuals. They don't need to be mutually exclusive.

[Ki Breaker]

I can't believe no one has suggested that an Universe with a high civilational level could produce naturally stronger individuals. They don't need to be mutually exclusive.

I am not very sure if I understand what you mean..
We are plenty civilised than stone henge man but the average stone henge era guy would crubstomp the average current age guy..

Actually the one with higher civilization should produce naturally weaker individuals

[DBSQA]

I legit could see Goku laughing at him.

Goku? It's not like Goku has ever meet the guy. It has to be either of these fighters:

Tien
Piccolo
Vegeta
Krillin
18


They all know him

Possibly Piccolo, since aside from 18 he's the only character on that list who had any sort of chemistry with 17.

Yeah I agree with Piccolo, his the only one that has fought him

[alakazam^]

I am not very sure if I understand what you mean..
We are plenty civilised than stone henge man but the average stone henge era guy would crubstomp the average current age guy..

Actually the one with higher civilization should produce naturally weaker individuals

I mean in-universe. The "mortal level" could be based on the quality of civilizations, which would then produce stronger individuals. This way we kill two birds with one stone.

[Totamo]

I don't think the Goku vs Bergamo fight will last the whole episode. I think it will end early compared to the other fights and I think there will be a twist or a sign as to who really is pulling the strings (Grand Priest).

People saying Zeno's calculations on each Universe being based on societal/technological development and not power doesn't make sense to me. Zeno's mentality is that of a child, why would he care about something like that? He only cares about being entertained. Plus when Whis asks "Who's at the bottom"? The Grand Priest replies "Surely you can tell", and points at Universe 9's characters. That to me shows it's about power. Why else would the competition be called the "Tournament of Power"?

Why would Zeno keep the strongest universes out if he wants to be entertained? That doesn't make any sense either


I didn't even think he made that list

[Ki Breaker]

I am not very sure if I understand what you mean..
We are plenty civilised than stone henge man but the average stone henge era guy would crubstomp the average current age guy..

Actually the one with higher civilization should produce naturally weaker individuals

I mean in-universe. The "mortal level" could be based on the quality of civilizations, which would then produce stronger individuals. This way we kill two birds with one stone.

In universe the Saiyans are better living in universe 6 but couldn't even go SS..
Living in peace and in between civilized people tends to lower your physical strength

[TheMathemagician]

I don't think the Goku vs Bergamo fight will last the whole episode. I think it will end early compared to the other fights and I think there will be a twist or a sign as to who really is pulling the strings (Grand Priest).

People saying Zeno's calculations on each Universe being based on societal/technological development and not power doesn't make sense to me. Zeno's mentality is that of a child, why would he care about something like that? He only cares about being entertained. Plus when Whis asks "Who's at the bottom"? The Grand Priest replies "Surely you can tell", and points at Universe 9's characters. That to me shows it's about power. Why else would the competition be called the "Tournament of Power"?

Plot twist, the Zen'os are pulling the strings to make it seem like Daishinkan is the one pulling the strings.

[omaro34]

I can't believe no one has suggested that an Universe with a high civilational level could produce naturally stronger individuals. They don't need to be mutually exclusive.

Nobody really mentioned that because Dragonball hasn't constantly produced this concept to us. The Tuffles were a highly civilized and highly developed race but they couldn't keep up in combat with the Saiyans who were primitive.

[omaro34]

I don't think the Goku vs Bergamo fight will last the whole episode. I think it will end early compared to the other fights and I think there will be a twist or a sign as to who really is pulling the strings (Grand Priest).

People saying Zeno's calculations on each Universe being based on societal/technological development and not power doesn't make sense to me. Zeno's mentality is that of a child, why would he care about something like that? He only cares about being entertained. Plus when Whis asks "Who's at the bottom"? The Grand Priest replies "Surely you can tell", and points at Universe 9's characters. That to me shows it's about power. Why else would the competition be called the "Tournament of Power"?

Why would Zeno keep the strongest universes out if he wants to be entertained? That doesn't make any sense either


I didn't even think he made that list

Because these fights between lower tier universes exceeded his expectations from an entertainment standpoint. He mentioned that out.

[dragonballgeek]

I am not very sure if I understand what you mean..
We are plenty civilised than stone henge man but the average stone henge era guy would crubstomp the average current age guy..

Actually the one with higher civilization should produce naturally weaker individuals

I mean in-universe. The "mortal level" could be based on the quality of civilizations, which would then produce stronger individuals. This way we kill two birds with one stone.

In universe the Saiyans are better living in universe 6 but couldn't even go SS..
Living in peace and in between civilized people tends to lower your physical strength

Not necessarily true. Cabba was pretty powerful for someone who wasn't able to transform initially. Also, nobody ever said Cabba was the strongest Saiyan there. For all we know the King could've just sent a talented young Saiyan to get some experience.

-Side note, to Cabbas knowledge there's no super saiyan in his universe. He's a child. The adults could know all about it but have no need for it since they're at peace. And if female Broly is from that universe as well, then they probably don't want anymore people like her roaming around.

[kinisking]

I am not very sure if I understand what you mean..
We are plenty civilised than stone henge man but the average stone henge era guy would crubstomp the average current age guy..

Actually the one with higher civilization should produce naturally weaker individuals

I mean in-universe. The "mortal level" could be based on the quality of civilizations, which would then produce stronger individuals. This way we kill two birds with one stone.

In universe the Saiyans are better living in universe 6 but couldn't even go SS..
Living in peace and in between civilized people tends to lower your physical strength

Not true. They're basically super hero police men. Of course they'll be trained for that unlike the u7 saiyans that abused their oozaru.

[Legion]

I bet that we'll see many hax abilities in this tournament, like with Hit in Champa arc

[HeroR]

In universe the Saiyans are better living in universe 6 but couldn't even go SS..
Living in peace and in between civilized people tends to lower your physical strength

That is with Goku and Vegeta who had to train with an angel to reach their current levels. Cabba's base form was equal to Vegeta, which craps on the Saiyans even in the Buu Saga with all their transformations.

[MisteryOne]

I don't think the Goku vs Bergamo fight will last the whole episode. I think it will end early compared to the other fights and I think there will be a twist or a sign as to who really is pulling the strings (Grand Priest).

People saying Zeno's calculations on each Universe being based on societal/technological development and not power doesn't make sense to me. Zeno's mentality is that of a child, why would he care about something like that? He only cares about being entertained. Plus when Whis asks "Who's at the bottom"? The Grand Priest replies "Surely you can tell", and points at Universe 9's characters. That to me shows it's about power. Why else would the competition be called the "Tournament of Power"?

The fact that the first time traveler was from an advanced civilization from U12 (one of the universes safe from the tournament), that literally all the U7 fighters came from Earth, that Jaco himself said that there aren't much intelligent life in U7 and Beerus and Kaioshin discussion in the last episode made it pretty clear: they are not talking about power. Seriously, I don't understanf why people don't get it, evidence is all over the place. The really big problem with U9 is not that their universe is weak (but then again that is related to the amount of civilizations in the universe, thats pretty obvious), is that they have an asshole Kaioshin that is seem as low even from the view of Kibito and that obviously doesn't have a proper attictude, and a Hakaishin that is too indecisive to hardly destroy anything.

Seriously, Super's manga, Jaco's manga, even the latest episode made it pretty clear, they are not talking just about power.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

If the Universe ratings were exclusively about power, we'd already know the result of the tournament.