General Fan Fiction Thread

[ekrolo2]

Actually, now that I think about it, this could be used to explain Vegeta's rage boost. He could have obtained 1/6th of the power of SSGod by harnessing the God ki already within him. I probably won't use this, but it's a possible explanation. This also fits Beerus' 10% line and SSGod Goku being a 6 to Beerus' 10. Of course this all got retconned later on.

I actually think retconning them to be much lower on the food chain lends itself well to longer form storytelling. Trying to keep the original movie powers makes stuff like the tournaments really hard to execute since everyone needs to be within spitting distance of the Gods of Destruction. The only problem is this retcon came in too late for the anime and we've got what we've got now as a result.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Actually, now that I think about it, this could be used to explain Vegeta's rage boost. He could have obtained 1/6th of the power of SSGod by harnessing the God ki already within him. I probably won't use this, but it's a possible explanation. This also fits Beerus' 10% line and SSGod Goku being a 6 to Beerus' 10. Of course this all got retconned later on.

I actually think retconning them to be much lower on the food chain lends itself well to longer form storytelling. Trying to keep the original movie powers makes stuff like the tournaments really hard to execute since everyone needs to be within spitting distance of the Gods of Destruction. The only problem is this retcon came in too late for the anime and we've got what we've got now as a result.

It could all be fixed by shifting a decimal point, at least until you bring in Kaioken and fusion.

[ekrolo2]

Actually, now that I think about it, this could be used to explain Vegeta's rage boost. He could have obtained 1/6th of the power of SSGod by harnessing the God ki already within him. I probably won't use this, but it's a possible explanation. This also fits Beerus' 10% line and SSGod Goku being a 6 to Beerus' 10. Of course this all got retconned later on.

I actually think retconning them to be much lower on the food chain lends itself well to longer form storytelling. Trying to keep the original movie powers makes stuff like the tournaments really hard to execute since everyone needs to be within spitting distance of the Gods of Destruction. The only problem is this retcon came in too late for the anime and we've got what we've got now as a result.

It could all be fixed by shifting a decimal point, at least until you bring in Kaioken and fusion.

Yes, instead of Goku being worth 60%, you make him 6% and then tell KK to fuck off back into irrelevancy. Fusions can be the exceptions otherwise Goku & Vegeta should give up if Blue Vegetto can't surpass Beerus still.

[TheUltimateNinja]

I actually think retconning them to be much lower on the food chain lends itself well to longer form storytelling. Trying to keep the original movie powers makes stuff like the tournaments really hard to execute since everyone needs to be within spitting distance of the Gods of Destruction. The only problem is this retcon came in too late for the anime and we've got what we've got now as a result.

It could all be fixed by shifting a decimal point, at least until you bring in Kaioken and fusion.

Yes, instead of Goku being worth 60%, you make him 6% and then tell KK to fuck off back into irrelevancy. Fusions can be the exceptions otherwise Goku & Vegeta should give up if Blue Vegetto can't surpass Beerus still.

I do quite like the Kaioken, though. I've limited it to a 2x multiplier rather than removing it entirely.

[ekrolo2]

It could all be fixed by shifting a decimal point, at least until you bring in Kaioken and fusion.

Yes, instead of Goku being worth 60%, you make him 6% and then tell KK to fuck off back into irrelevancy. Fusions can be the exceptions otherwise Goku & Vegeta should give up if Blue Vegetto can't surpass Beerus still.

I do quite like the Kaioken, though. I've limited it to a 2x multiplier rather than removing it entirely.

Ehh, I think having Goku needing to use IT to counter Hit's Time Skip, maybe have him dematerialize for longer periods of time would've made for a more strategically interesting fight. As it stands, he just overpowers Hit and that's the end of it.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Yes, instead of Goku being worth 60%, you make him 6% and then tell KK to fuck off back into irrelevancy. Fusions can be the exceptions otherwise Goku & Vegeta should give up if Blue Vegetto can't surpass Beerus still.

I do quite like the Kaioken, though. I've limited it to a 2x multiplier rather than removing it entirely.

Ehh, I think having Goku needing to use IT to counter Hit's Time Skip, maybe have him dematerialize for longer periods of time would've made for a more strategically interesting fight. As it stands, he just overpowers Hit and that's the end of it.

I did have Goku using IT in the Hit fight, he rapidly flashes in and out of his location so fast that it looks like he hasn't moved at all. This prevents Hit from attacking since each time he uses the timeskip Goku isn't there. But Hit figures out what Goku is up to pretty quickly and decides to just wait until Goku is out of stamina since each time Goku teleports he loses a tiny bit of energy. Normally this isn't enough to make a difference at all, but since Goku is doing it so many times in rapid succession he ends up losing stamina fairly quickly and as such is forced to resort to the Kaioken to break Hit's timeskip entirely.

[Doctor.]

Ehh, I think having Goku needing to use IT to counter Hit's Time Skip, maybe have him dematerialize for longer periods of time would've made for a more strategically interesting fight. As it stands, he just overpowers Hit and that's the end of it.

I agree, but I think that introducing Kaioken against Merged Zamasu would be great. It would give an excuse as to why Goku Black never used it and it could also be used strategically, as even x2 would cause a lot of fatigue and loss in stamina and Ki, and he'd have to use his boosts at the right time in order to just barely avoid Zamasu's extremely powerful and fast blows. One miscalculation would fuck everything up.

[ekrolo2]

I agree, but I think that introducing Kaioken against Merged Zamasu would be great. It would give an excuse as to why Goku Black never used it and it could also be used strategically, as even x2 would cause a lot of fatigue and loss in stamina and Ki, and he'd have to use his boosts at the right time in order to just barely avoid Zamasu's extremely powerful and fast blows. One miscalculation would fuck everything up.

You mean a sudden burst of power to keep himself from dropping dead? That would work quite well actually, especially with careful tidbits of foreshadowing to setup Goku tinkering with something to maybe catch up to Beerus faster.

I did have Goku using IT in the Hit fight, he rapidly flashes in and out of his location so fast that it looks like he hasn't moved at all. This prevents Hit from attacking since each time he uses the timeskip Goku isn't there. But Hit figures out what Goku is up to pretty quickly and decides to just wait until Goku is out of stamina since each time Goku teleports he loses a tiny bit of energy. Normally this isn't enough to make a difference at all, but since Goku is doing it so many times in rapid succession he ends up losing stamina fairly quickly and as such is forced to resort to the Kaioken to break Hit's timeskip entirely.

Do you have this rewrite somewhere I can read it? I'd really like to see your version of these events.

[Doctor.]

You mean a sudden burst of power to keep himself from dropping dead? That would work quite well actually, especially with careful tidbits of foreshadowing to setup Goku tinkering with something to maybe catch up to Beerus faster.

Yeah, basically how he used quick bursts of x2 to keep up with Vegeta for a while when they first fought. Before he started using Kaioken from there on as a semi-permanent power-up

[TheUltimateNinja]

I did have Goku using IT in the Hit fight, he rapidly flashes in and out of his location so fast that it looks like he hasn't moved at all. This prevents Hit from attacking since each time he uses the timeskip Goku isn't there. But Hit figures out what Goku is up to pretty quickly and decides to just wait until Goku is out of stamina since each time Goku teleports he loses a tiny bit of energy. Normally this isn't enough to make a difference at all, but since Goku is doing it so many times in rapid succession he ends up losing stamina fairly quickly and as such is forced to resort to the Kaioken to break Hit's timeskip entirely.

Do you have this rewrite somewhere I can read it? I'd really like to see your version of these events.

No, I intend to wait until Super is over before I fully complete it. Each new arc contradicts something I have in the story and forces me to rewrite a lot of it, for this reason I haven't even started the Black arc rewrite, I've just been coming up with ideas to explain the power scale and the retcons. This originally started out as a Resurrection F rewrite that later expanded into retelling Super in its entirety, and due to the new elements introduced in Super I've had to make so many changes to my original version of the Resurrection F arc that it might as well be a completely different story.

[ekrolo2]

I did have Goku using IT in the Hit fight, he rapidly flashes in and out of his location so fast that it looks like he hasn't moved at all. This prevents Hit from attacking since each time he uses the timeskip Goku isn't there. But Hit figures out what Goku is up to pretty quickly and decides to just wait until Goku is out of stamina since each time Goku teleports he loses a tiny bit of energy. Normally this isn't enough to make a difference at all, but since Goku is doing it so many times in rapid succession he ends up losing stamina fairly quickly and as such is forced to resort to the Kaioken to break Hit's timeskip entirely.

Do you have this rewrite somewhere I can read it? I'd really like to see your version of these events.

No, I intend to wait until Super is over before I fully complete it. Each new arc contradicts something I have in the story and forces me to rewrite a lot of it, for this reason I haven't even started the Black arc rewrite, I've just been coming up with ideas to explain the power scale and the retcons. This originally started out as a Resurrection F rewrite that later expanded into retelling Super in its entirety, and due to the new elements introduced in Super I've had to make so many changes to my original version of the Resurrection F arc that it might as well be a completely different story.

I know what you mean. One of the biggest hurdles keeping me from writing that RoF remake sequel, besides college, is the fact I kind of want to cover the rest of Super, or as much of it as I can, but I'm worried some new things going to give a cool concept that I can't play around with.

Back when I originally wrote Vicious Gods Wrath, Super didn't exist and I just assumed we'd have to wait another 2 years for a movie to come along and follow it up.

[Doctor.]

Hey, at least you guys aren't going through the trouble of rewriting Dragon Ball in its entirety. Ahaha, kill me.

[ekrolo2]

Hey, at least you guys aren't going through the trouble of rewriting Dragon Ball in its entirety. Ahaha, kill me.

I'm really interested to see how you unboring Kid Goku and the RRA arc

[Doctor.]

Hey, at least you guys aren't going through the trouble of rewriting Dragon Ball in its entirety. Ahaha, kill me.

I'm really interested to see how you unboring Kid Goku and the RRA arc

I only have a rough draft so far, but the RRA is going to be a grand focus for the majority of part 1. They're going to be set up already in the first arc, so imagine a fusion of the first arc and the RRA arc, only Roshi has a bigger role in defeating the big bad of the arc and only a part of the RRA is defeated, setting up Tao Pai Pai and Piccolo for the future.

[LightBing]

Hey, at least you guys aren't going through the trouble of rewriting Dragon Ball in its entirety. Ahaha, kill me.

That's quite a task. You're insane, I hope you don't end up in Júlio de Matos.

[ekrolo2]

Hey, at least you guys aren't going through the trouble of rewriting Dragon Ball in its entirety. Ahaha, kill me.

I'm really interested to see how you unboring Kid Goku and the RRA arc

I only have a rough draft so far, but the RRA is going to be a grand focus for the majority of part 1. They're going to be set up already in the first arc, so imagine a fusion of the first arc and the RRA arc, only Roshi has a bigger role in defeating the big bad of the arc and only a part of the RRA is defeated, setting up Tao Pai Pai and Piccolo for the future.

Any good ideas for Goku? Cause he's really bland without anyone else to bounce off him pre-adulthood.

[Kanassa]

Okay, since some of the attributes of the Majin 'power up' are a mystery, would it being used on a lower tier being like an earthling, and making them powerful enough to fight on a level a few below a Super Saiyan 2 seem stupid?

[Doctor.]

I'm really interested to see how you unboring Kid Goku and the RRA arc

I only have a rough draft so far, but the RRA is going to be a grand focus for the majority of part 1. They're going to be set up already in the first arc, so imagine a fusion of the first arc and the RRA arc, only Roshi has a bigger role in defeating the big bad of the arc and only a part of the RRA is defeated, setting up Tao Pai Pai and Piccolo for the future.

Any good ideas for Goku? Cause he's really bland without anyone else to bounce off him pre-adulthood.

If you've read HxH, I was thinking of having him in a similar role as Gon: in more of a secondary role for some of the arcs, giving focus to the other characters, as he learns about the world and becomes stronger. Well, Gon was pretty boring himself, but in order to make Goku more interesting, I thought of making him keep some of Kakarot's traits. He's not going to be evil, but he's going to have some of the bad character traits he'll have to work on.

[ekrolo2]

If you've read HxH, I was thinking of having him in a similar role as Gon: in more of a secondary role for some of the arcs, giving focus to the other characters, as he learns about the world and becomes stronger. Well, Gon was pretty boring himself, but in order to make Goku more interesting, I thought of making him keep some of Kakarot's traits. He's not going to be evil, but he's going to have some of the bad character traits he'll have to work on.

If he gets involved with the RRA, I can see him killing some of them and not having any remorse about it disturbing say Roshi and Bulma. Especially if he kept on doing it after they explain why its wrong.

[Doctor.]

If you've read HxH, I was thinking of having him in a similar role as Gon: in more of a secondary role for some of the arcs, giving focus to the other characters, as he learns about the world and becomes stronger. Well, Gon was pretty boring himself, but in order to make Goku more interesting, I thought of making him keep some of Kakarot's traits. He's not going to be evil, but he's going to have some of the bad character traits he'll have to work on.

If he gets involved with the RRA, I can see him killing some of them and not having any remorse about it disturbing say Roshi and Bulma. Especially if he kept on doing it after they explain why its wrong.

Yeah, the killing part of his moral compass (or lack thereof) would be something I'd tackle and make him fully realize why it's wrong with Kami's training (something the series implied but never fully explored).