The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:26 pm

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King-K9 wrote:What if Future Gohan was brought back to life during the Future Trunks arc in Super?
He would've played with Goten and Trunks for about 20 episodes.
What if Future Gohan had been training in the Afterlife with the other deceased Super Warriors ever since his death and managed to master his Super Saiyan form to the point where he was even more powerful than Ultimate Gohan in just his base form, and as a Chou Super Saiyan (a truly completely mastered Super Saiyan), he could just slightly outmatch the same Majin Vegeta-like Super Saiyan form of Goku Black that quite easily beat Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta in the Dragon Ball Super Manga?
He would get killed by SSRose Black.

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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:42 pm

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Jinzoningen MULE wrote: He would've played with Goten and Trunks for about 20 episodes.
What if Future Gohan had been training in the Afterlife with the other deceased Super Warriors ever since his death and managed to master his Super Saiyan form to the point where he was even more powerful than Ultimate Gohan in just his base form, and as a Chou Super Saiyan (a truly completely mastered Super Saiyan), he could just slightly outmatch the same Majin Vegeta-like Super Saiyan form of Goku Black that quite easily beat Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta in the Dragon Ball Super Manga?
He would get killed by SSRose Black.
I doubt that, because Future Gohan is nothing like Vegeta, and would have never let Goku Black power up beyond his base form, while Super Saiyan Blue Goku, Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta, and Mastered Super Saiyan 2 Future Trunks would take care of Future Zamasu by rather quickly bringing his Immortality beyond it's limits. Leaving the snide asshole that is Zamasu no longer Immortal just long enough to defeat him for good with a Super Saiyan Blue: Kaioken God Kamehameha, God Final Flash, and Masenko.

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Re: What if Zamasu took over Gohan's body instead of Goku's?

Post by Smilodon » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:49 am

Trunks would have killed him alone...
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Re: What if Zamasu took over Gohan's body instead of Goku's?

Post by dragonballgeek » Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:25 am

Smilodon wrote:Trunks would have killed him alone...
Nah. Goku and Vegeta have both said Gohan has more potential than them. He just doesn't want to fight.

What do you think Zamasu would've done? He would've maxed Gohans body out on top of his diety Ki.pretty much would've been unstoppable

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Re: What if Zamasu took over Gohan's body instead of Goku's?

Post by sailorspazz » Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:22 am

It would be an interesting choice, but Gohan is far too courteous and polite to trigger Zamasu's rage and make him want to take over his body. Unless he hates bookworms...

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Re: What if Zamasu took over Gohan's body instead of Goku's?

Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:47 am

Can't happen, we needed an enemy we can stop, creating an unstoppable beasthan isn't the best choice..

How powerful do you think SSR gohan would have been? Fucking insane level
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Re: What if Zamasu took over Gohan's body instead of Goku's?

Post by DragonBallFoodie » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:52 am

It could just work. Gohan was repeatedly made out as Goku's successor, and there's dramatic potential in Trunks' mentor being an evil person that he must now destroy.

But the "evil version of hero" thing pretty much meant Goku Black.
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Re: What if Zamasu took over Gohan's body instead of Goku's?

Post by Akyon » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:34 pm

Overall storywise it'd have greatly improved Black and his opponents interactions.

Trunks grew up with Gohan taking him under his wing as a mentor and guardian. The struggle would have been more interesting.

Goku could have had a conflicting feeling about having to kill his son.

Vegeta wouldn't have been so quick and happy to punch Black in the face, etc.
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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by miguelnuva1 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:35 am

Here's one, some how after Bebi defeats Uub right before Goku goes SSJ3 his adult baby is restored. At the same time a Vegeta who defeated Bebi in a parallel timeline appears and they fuse into SSJ Gogeta.

Can GT Gogeta defeat Bebi Vegeta in 30 mins with just SSJ 1, 2 or 3?

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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by dragonball0900 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:15 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
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TheUltimateNinja wrote: Chaozu manipulated their numbers so this wouldn't happen, but if it did Goku would beat Piccolo, except this time he wouldn't have as much of a hard time and Piccolo probably wouldn't even get the chance to blow the whole place up.
Chiaotzu didn't know about Piccolo, he only split up the team. Piccolo and Goku very well could have ended up together. But why do you say this would result in Goku winning easier?
No, Tenshinhan knew about him and specifically told Chaozu to put him in a different block, there's no way he'd end up fighting Goku in the first round. And Goku would win easier because he was holding back for the first half of the fight because of Kami.
Well Tenshinhan didn't know it was Piccolo, he just thought it was one of the demons from Piccolo. Later when Goku tells everybody that it was the real Piccolo, Tenshinhan freaks out.
And I don't see how Goku would win easier, he would probably still be holding back because of Kami.

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Re: What if Zamasu took over Gohan's body instead of Goku's?

Post by kinisking » Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:39 am

sailorspazz wrote:It would be an interesting choice, but Gohan is far too courteous and polite to trigger Zamasu's rage and make him want to take over his body. Unless he hates bookworms...

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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by Vegetes » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:16 pm

What if before the beginning of the Buu saga, Piccolo using the namekians dragon balls, wished back King Piccolo, since it was King piccolo that was separated from kami, not him so now he became a truly the original being in his body. Sorry if I forgot any plot point that would make this not work or any grammatical errors.

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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:32 pm

dragonball0900 wrote:
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nickzambuto wrote: Chiaotzu didn't know about Piccolo, he only split up the team. Piccolo and Goku very well could have ended up together. But why do you say this would result in Goku winning easier?
No, Tenshinhan knew about him and specifically told Chaozu to put him in a different block, there's no way he'd end up fighting Goku in the first round. And Goku would win easier because he was holding back for the first half of the fight because of Kami.
Well Tenshinhan didn't know it was Piccolo, he just thought it was one of the demons from Piccolo. Later when Goku tells everybody that it was the real Piccolo, Tenshinhan freaks out.
And I don't see how Goku would win easier, he would probably still be holding back because of Kami.
He wouldn't have to worry about the fact that Kami's inside Piccolo. Sure, he still wouldn't actually use enough power to kill Piccolo but he'd definitely have the advantage.

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Post by nickzambuto » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:29 am

Vegetes wrote:What if before the beginning of the Buu saga, Piccolo using the namekians dragon balls, wished back King Piccolo, since it was King piccolo that was separated from kami, not him so now he became a truly the original being in his body. Sorry if I forgot any plot point that would make this not work or any grammatical errors.
I arbitrarily believe he would be Evil Boo tier. I base this on nothing.

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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:52 am

nickzambuto wrote:
Vegetes wrote:What if before the beginning of the Buu saga, Piccolo using the namekians dragon balls, wished back King Piccolo, since it was King piccolo that was separated from kami, not him so now he became a truly the original being in his body. Sorry if I forgot any plot point that would make this not work or any grammatical errors.
I arbitrarily believe he would be Evil Boo tier. I base this on nothing.
Might as well have him SSG Tier.. just in case..
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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by nickzambuto » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:12 am

Ki Breaker wrote:
nickzambuto wrote:
Vegetes wrote:What if before the beginning of the Buu saga, Piccolo using the namekians dragon balls, wished back King Piccolo, since it was King piccolo that was separated from kami, not him so now he became a truly the original being in his body. Sorry if I forgot any plot point that would make this not work or any grammatical errors.
I arbitrarily believe he would be Evil Boo tier. I base this on nothing.
Might as well have him SSG Tier.. just in case..
Maybe after a potential unlock from Elder Kaioshin.

Yeah, I can roll with this.

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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by Noah » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:35 pm

Vegetes wrote:What if before the beginning of the Buu saga, Piccolo using the namekians dragon balls, wished back King Piccolo, since it was King piccolo that was separated from kami, not him so now he became a truly the original being in his body. Sorry if I forgot any plot point that would make this not work or any grammatical errors.
Another based on Supersonic Warriors, right? :P

Well, I think he would be just high SSJ2-tier
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Post by dragonball0900 » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:04 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
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TheUltimateNinja wrote: No, Tenshinhan knew about him and specifically told Chaozu to put him in a different block, there's no way he'd end up fighting Goku in the first round. And Goku would win easier because he was holding back for the first half of the fight because of Kami.
Well Tenshinhan didn't know it was Piccolo, he just thought it was one of the demons from Piccolo. Later when Goku tells everybody that it was the real Piccolo, Tenshinhan freaks out.
And I don't see how Goku would win easier, he would probably still be holding back because of Kami.
He wouldn't have to worry about the fact that Kami's inside Piccolo. Sure, he still wouldn't actually use enough power to kill Piccolo but he'd definitely have the advantage.
Goku was still aware that Kami was going to die if Piccolo dies. Considering how worried Goku was about a possible death for Kami, he would still be trying to hold back against Piccolo.

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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by Vegetes » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:34 pm

Noah wrote:
Vegetes wrote:What if before the beginning of the Buu saga, Piccolo using the namekians dragon balls, wished back King Piccolo, since it was King piccolo that was separated from kami, not him so now he became a truly the original being in his body. Sorry if I forgot any plot point that would make this not work or any grammatical errors.
Another based on Supersonic Warriors, right? :P

Well, I think he would be just high SSJ2-tier
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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:37 pm

dragonball0900 wrote:
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dragonball0900 wrote: Well Tenshinhan didn't know it was Piccolo, he just thought it was one of the demons from Piccolo. Later when Goku tells everybody that it was the real Piccolo, Tenshinhan freaks out.
And I don't see how Goku would win easier, he would probably still be holding back because of Kami.
He wouldn't have to worry about the fact that Kami's inside Piccolo. Sure, he still wouldn't actually use enough power to kill Piccolo but he'd definitely have the advantage.
Goku was still aware that Kami was going to die if Piccolo dies. Considering how worried Goku was about a possible death for Kami, he would still be trying to hold back against Piccolo.
But he wouldn't hold back as much as he did, so he could do far more damage when Piccolo became a giant rather than trying to get inside him to retrieve Kami.

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