Hit is nerfed again.

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Hit is nerfed again.

Post by Kishido » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:09 am

Killing is not allowed at the tournament. Poor guy once again not able to use his assassin moves

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Post by OLKv3 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:28 am

The no killing rule is dumb since Zeno is gonna kill them anyway.

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Post by Zamasu55 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:29 am

So are Botamo and Frost.

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Post by TysonWine » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:29 am

OLKv3 wrote:The no killing rule is dumb since Zeno is gonna kill them anyway.
Someone please make this make sense

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Post by TheMikado » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:37 am

TysonWine wrote:
OLKv3 wrote:The no killing rule is dumb since Zeno is gonna kill them anyway.
Someone please make this make sense
It really is though, like why would Zeno even care or make the rule in the first place. He doesn't seem to care about life in general.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:05 am

TheMikado wrote:
TysonWine wrote:
OLKv3 wrote:The no killing rule is dumb since Zeno is gonna kill them anyway.
Someone please make this make sense
It really is though, like why would Zeno even care or make the rule in the first place. He doesn't seem to care about life in general.
He actually does. That why a mortal level exists. Keep the worthy mortals who are high in value and depose of the unnecessary trash and improve the overall image of the multiverse. Zeno is basically performing gentrification of a multiverse scale.

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Re: Hit is nerfed again.

Post by TheMikado » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:09 am

Lord Beerus wrote:
TheMikado wrote:
TysonWine wrote:
Someone please make this make sense
It really is though, like why would Zeno even care or make the rule in the first place. He doesn't seem to care about life in general.
He actually does. That why a mortal level exists. Keep the worthy mortals who are high in value and depose of the unnecessary trash and improve the overall image of the multiverse. Zeno is basically performing gentrification of a multiverse scale.
That's true but that's so odd because it seems like more savage universes would be stronger. It's odd because we have no indication how fighting ability correlates to AML level. Why use this format if the intent is to keep the best quality universes and why be surprised at the fighting abilities of those universes if they are no related? Things just aren't adding up logically right now but hopefully we will get some clarifications.

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Post by ChronoTwigger » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:51 am

Killing is not allowed to avoid instakill based on techniques like who know, spreading atomic radiations, or ebola, or self detonation or whatever is not

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Post by TysonWine » Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:37 pm

TheMikado wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
TheMikado wrote:
It really is though, like why would Zeno even care or make the rule in the first place. He doesn't seem to care about life in general.
He actually does. That why a mortal level exists. Keep the worthy mortals who are high in value and depose of the unnecessary trash and improve the overall image of the multiverse. Zeno is basically performing gentrification of a multiverse scale.
That's true but that's so odd because it seems like more savage universes would be stronger. It's odd because we have no indication how fighting ability correlates to AML level. Why use this format if the intent is to keep the best quality universes and why be surprised at the fighting abilities of those universes if they are no related? Things just aren't adding up logically right now but hopefully we will get some clarifications.
I could see where both of you are coming from.

On one hand, if one were to create the "perfect" (whatever that means to Zeno) multiverse, you'd have to get rid of the "lesser" beings. So, Zeno does care about life, life that is worthy. All eight universes that are competing are currently unworthy of inhabiting the multiverse. So, Zeno is giving them a chance to determine their own fate, which beats getting destroyed at a snap of the fingers.

On the other hand, we don't know what Average Mortal Level means. Based on the reactions Goku received when he went Blue, God tier fighters aren't plentiful in any of the universes. So, maybe AML has little to nothing to do with power. If that's the case, why have a tournament where the fate of the universes is decided by the strongest. This is where it would seem Zeno doesn't care about life. Imagine having basketball tryouts where those who made the team were decided based on who played football the best. It doesn't make sense outside of entertainment. That's all the Zeno's want...entertainment. Let's say universe 2 was just barely below the necessary AML where they would be considered a "good" universe. Rather than pointing that out to the Gods of that universe and giving them a few hundred years to straighten things out, they now run the risk of being eliminated by Universe 6 or 7. Universes that are way below AML.

IMO, saying Zeno (I love how we refer to THEM as one) cares about life is exaggerating the depths of his conscious. Remember, if Goku ruined his entertainment by not going all out, he would've destroyed ALL the universes immediately. I think it would be more appropriate to say he cares about balance. If there are 12 universes and only 4 of them are worthy to exist, that's not a good balance. "Lesser" universes are affecting the balance of the multiverse and should therefore be destroyed. This of course comes second to being thoroughly entertained.

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Post by Cabba » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:19 pm

Zamasu55 wrote:So are Botamo and Frost.
Frost i understand because of his dirty tricks, but why botamo? I mean if he cant keep himself inside the ring he has no business being there

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Post by ChronoTwigger » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:39 pm

Cabba wrote:
Zamasu55 wrote:So are Botamo and Frost.
Frost i understand because of his dirty tricks, but why botamo? I mean if he cant keep himself inside the ring he has no business being there
In the exhibit match, out of ring wasn't a win. "Hey, now how they can beat Botamo without killing him? Powaa!". And the anti-Botamo rules come in.
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Post by ChiefWamsutta » Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:45 pm

Honestly, they probably don't want killing because then someone could pull a Vegeta Atonement and wipe everyone out.

It's no fun for the Zenos if the match is over in two seconds because Vegeta uses a SSBlue atonement bomb.

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Post by IKevinX » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:31 pm

I still believe they will get rid of the no kill rule during the match. It would be really counterproductive to have this rule when the stakes revolve in mass murdering. Not to mention how the last tournament was set, with two requests to allow for killing.

Heck, Goku himself might ask again for the rule to be removed. (Again)
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Post by perucho1990 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:42 pm

I was thinking the same but if Hit should be able to create spaces/dimension in a location where thee isnt any space nor time.

If he could evolve that technique to something like JJBA D4C, he could solo everyone.

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Re: Hit is nerfed again.

Post by Freeza9000 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:05 am

Maybe Hit will try to fight to the best of his abilities without having to kill and manipulating time. After all, Hit is SSJB tier. But yeah, that no killing rule is just dumb.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:01 pm

TysonWine wrote:
OLKv3 wrote:The no killing rule is dumb since Zeno is gonna kill them anyway.
Someone please make this make sense
Zen-Oh wants a good match and fights, bottom line of all this is he wants to be entertained, people going with the itent to kill their opponent would kind of make it not fun and would get rid of the strategy element. Plus some people ie Hit are built for killing thus giving them an unfair advantage hence why weapons and flight is banned too.

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Post by DragonBallFoodie » Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:33 am

When you're able to stop time and not kill anyone, I wouldn't call that nerfing.
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