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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:12 pm

ABED wrote:
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ABED wrote: It was. I'd hate to think what that would mean if it wasn't.
In that case no one else should have been able to achieve it since their lives are vastly different from Goku's.
Not what I was getting at. Goku had to go through all those steps for HIM to be able to achieve it. If he didn't, what came before would've felt like a waste of time.
That's not the point, you brought up Vegeta training in even higher gravity than Goku. I don't think that's enough.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:16 pm

I like the new lightning effects better than the old ones.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:36 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:I like the new lightning effects better than the old ones.
Why?

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Mar 05, 2017 6:36 pm

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ekrolo2 wrote:I like the new lightning effects better than the old ones.
Why?
I like that they're thicker is all. The old ones we're good but I think the new ones look more... powerful, I guess?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:55 pm

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TheUltimateNinja wrote: In that case no one else should have been able to achieve it since their lives are vastly different from Goku's.
Not what I was getting at. Goku had to go through all those steps for HIM to be able to achieve it. If he didn't, what came before would've felt like a waste of time.
That's not the point, you brought up Vegeta training in even higher gravity than Goku. I don't think that's enough.
It is the point. Vegeta took the steps necessary to get to that point. He has the inner rage and he trained his ass off. He put himself through hell to get what he wanted. I don't see how he earned it any less than Goku. Goku wouldn't have gotten as far as he did had he not trained in such heavy gravity. Both guys put in the work, had the rage, and took tremendous beatings.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by pacz360 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:11 am

Anime goku and manga goku are practically the same character.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:16 am

pacz360 wrote:Anime goku and manga goku are practically the same character.
This depends, are you referring to dub Goku? Or Sub Goku? I don't know much about Z Sub Goku, but I know more than I should about Dub Goku and he is nothing like Manga Goku.

Anyway new unpopular opinion, Resurrection Of Freeza, justifies it's own existence.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Beyond » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:24 am

Krillin and Piccolo will always be the most popular non saiyan characters at least in the U.S. Not sure if this is unpopular, but I want to know if people agree with this.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:03 am

Buu is a great character and should fight in all the fights, even if that means him taking out everyone
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by pacz360 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:16 pm

Gog wrote:
pacz360 wrote:Anime goku and manga goku are practically the same character.
This depends, are you referring to dub Goku? Or Sub Goku? I don't know much about Z Sub Goku, but I know more than I should about Dub Goku and he is nothing like Manga Goku.

Anyway new unpopular opinion, Resurrection Of Freeza, justifies it's own existence.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:21 pm

pacz360 wrote:
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pacz360 wrote:Anime goku and manga goku are practically the same character.
This depends, are you referring to dub Goku? Or Sub Goku? I don't know much about Z Sub Goku, but I know more than I should about Dub Goku and he is nothing like Manga Goku.

Anyway new unpopular opinion, Resurrection Of Freeza, justifies it's own existence.
Z Sub goku
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Post by Dbzfan94 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:30 pm

Gog wrote:
pacz360 wrote:Anime goku and manga goku are practically the same character.
This depends, are you referring to dub Goku? Or Sub Goku? I don't know much about Z Sub Goku, but I know more than I should about Dub Goku and he is nothing like Manga Goku.
Dub Goku is still closer to the manga than Super Goku is.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Starkiller_Ren » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:31 pm

I realize it's the nostalgia, and I'm probably looking st it through rose colored glasses, but I really do enjoy Funimation's dub of Z and especially Faulconer's music. I totally see the issues people have with it- bad translations, sometimes bad dialogue, and I do agree that there should've been way more moments that are silent and not filled in with Faulconer music. But I grew up with it, so I really do love it
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Dbzfan94 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:33 pm

Starkiller_Ren wrote:I realize it's the nostalgia, and I'm probably looking st it through rose colored glasses, but I really do enjoy Funimation's dub of Z and especially Faulconer's music. I totally see the issues people have with it- bad translations, sometimes bad dialogue, and I do agree that there should've been way more moments that are silent and not filled in with Faulconer music. But I grew up with it, so I really do love it
I still love Faulconer Production''s score too. It's far from perfect and I like Kikuchi a lot too but I still prefer the replacement score (mainly for Buu Saga)

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:35 pm

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pacz360 wrote:Anime goku and manga goku are practically the same character.
This depends, are you referring to dub Goku? Or Sub Goku? I don't know much about Z Sub Goku, but I know more than I should about Dub Goku and he is nothing like Manga Goku.
Dub Goku is still closer to the manga than Super Goku is.
That's a lie and you know it. Super Goku is the most logical progression of Manga Goku.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:54 pm

Starkiller_Ren wrote:I realize it's the nostalgia, and I'm probably looking st it through rose colored glasses, but I really do enjoy Funimation's dub of Z and especially Faulconer's music. I totally see the issues people have with it- bad translations, sometimes bad dialogue, and I do agree that there should've been way more moments that are silent and not filled in with Faulconer music. But I grew up with it, so I really do love it
Sometimes bad dialog?

While I can't really watch the old dub, I do have fond memories of watching it at the time.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by MajinMan » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:59 pm

DBS Goku is basically a giant wake up call to most fans. He IS Goku in his purest form. The only issue I have with DBS Goku is that they play up his stupid side a little too much. His selfishness is something that I don't mind at all. I enjoy it a lot, actually.

Dub Goku is so far away from who Goku really is that it's not even close. You can't tell me with a straight face that dub Goku is a more accurate version of Goku compared to DBS Goku.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Totamo » Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:06 pm

After reading the 42 volume manga, I agree with torishima and that Dragon ball should have ended with freeza. Goku avenging his race, unlocking a new from, defeating the most powerful villain he has ever faced and he escapes from a destroying a planet.


The cell saga and the buu saga paint our characters in the worst light possible, the plotholes are swiss cheese level and you can just tell Toriyama was washed out

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Colgatetoothpasteyum » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:14 pm

-Never liked Gohan, Goten or Kid Trunks
-LOVE Yamcha and Want him to become a main fighter again, it should have been him instead of Android 17 or Roshi
-Janemba was the best villain from the movies, wish he was canon
-Chiaotzu is the most pointless character within the entire franchise, the story would be nearly the same without him
-Broly is lame.
-I consider filler canon, since I never read the manga until much later in life, and I like seeing the side characters do stuff
-So, so sick of the "Goku is evil" shit, I don't think I've ever seen people freaking out and over-analyze a kids show more in my life

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Post by kinisking » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:55 pm

Colgatetoothpasteyum wrote:-Never liked Gohan, Goten or Kid Trunks
-LOVE Yamcha and Want him to become a main fighter again, it should have been him instead of Android 17 or Roshi
-Janemba was the best villain from the movies, wish he was canon
-Chiaotzu is the most pointless character within the entire franchise, the story would be nearly the same without him
-Broly is lame.
-I consider filler canon, since I never read the manga until much later in life, and I like seeing the side characters do stuff
-So, so sick of the "Goku is evil" shit, I don't think I've ever seen people freaking out and over-analyze a kids show more in my life
That Chiaotzu opinion is far from unpopular. I think it's refreshing to see some love Yamcha though. I think he had ton of.potential.
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