That's not the point, you brought up Vegeta training in even higher gravity than Goku. I don't think that's enough.ABED wrote:Not what I was getting at. Goku had to go through all those steps for HIM to be able to achieve it. If he didn't, what came before would've felt like a waste of time.TheUltimateNinja wrote:In that case no one else should have been able to achieve it since their lives are vastly different from Goku's.ABED wrote: It was. I'd hate to think what that would mean if it wasn't.
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I like the new lightning effects better than the old ones.
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Why?ekrolo2 wrote:I like the new lightning effects better than the old ones.
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I like that they're thicker is all. The old ones we're good but I think the new ones look more... powerful, I guess?TheUltimateNinja wrote:Why?ekrolo2 wrote:I like the new lightning effects better than the old ones.
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It is the point. Vegeta took the steps necessary to get to that point. He has the inner rage and he trained his ass off. He put himself through hell to get what he wanted. I don't see how he earned it any less than Goku. Goku wouldn't have gotten as far as he did had he not trained in such heavy gravity. Both guys put in the work, had the rage, and took tremendous beatings.TheUltimateNinja wrote:That's not the point, you brought up Vegeta training in even higher gravity than Goku. I don't think that's enough.ABED wrote:Not what I was getting at. Goku had to go through all those steps for HIM to be able to achieve it. If he didn't, what came before would've felt like a waste of time.TheUltimateNinja wrote: In that case no one else should have been able to achieve it since their lives are vastly different from Goku's.
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Anime goku and manga goku are practically the same character.
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This depends, are you referring to dub Goku? Or Sub Goku? I don't know much about Z Sub Goku, but I know more than I should about Dub Goku and he is nothing like Manga Goku.pacz360 wrote:Anime goku and manga goku are practically the same character.
Anyway new unpopular opinion, Resurrection Of Freeza, justifies it's own existence.
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Krillin and Piccolo will always be the most popular non saiyan characters at least in the U.S. Not sure if this is unpopular, but I want to know if people agree with this.
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Buu is a great character and should fight in all the fights, even if that means him taking out everyone
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Z Sub gokuGog wrote:This depends, are you referring to dub Goku? Or Sub Goku? I don't know much about Z Sub Goku, but I know more than I should about Dub Goku and he is nothing like Manga Goku.pacz360 wrote:Anime goku and manga goku are practically the same character.
Anyway new unpopular opinion, Resurrection Of Freeza, justifies it's own existence.
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Well then, I don't know here.pacz360 wrote:Z Sub gokuGog wrote:This depends, are you referring to dub Goku? Or Sub Goku? I don't know much about Z Sub Goku, but I know more than I should about Dub Goku and he is nothing like Manga Goku.pacz360 wrote:Anime goku and manga goku are practically the same character.
Anyway new unpopular opinion, Resurrection Of Freeza, justifies it's own existence.
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Dub Goku is still closer to the manga than Super Goku is.Gog wrote:This depends, are you referring to dub Goku? Or Sub Goku? I don't know much about Z Sub Goku, but I know more than I should about Dub Goku and he is nothing like Manga Goku.pacz360 wrote:Anime goku and manga goku are practically the same character.
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I realize it's the nostalgia, and I'm probably looking st it through rose colored glasses, but I really do enjoy Funimation's dub of Z and especially Faulconer's music. I totally see the issues people have with it- bad translations, sometimes bad dialogue, and I do agree that there should've been way more moments that are silent and not filled in with Faulconer music. But I grew up with it, so I really do love it
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I still love Faulconer Production''s score too. It's far from perfect and I like Kikuchi a lot too but I still prefer the replacement score (mainly for Buu Saga)Starkiller_Ren wrote:I realize it's the nostalgia, and I'm probably looking st it through rose colored glasses, but I really do enjoy Funimation's dub of Z and especially Faulconer's music. I totally see the issues people have with it- bad translations, sometimes bad dialogue, and I do agree that there should've been way more moments that are silent and not filled in with Faulconer music. But I grew up with it, so I really do love it
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That's a lie and you know it. Super Goku is the most logical progression of Manga Goku.Dbzfan94 wrote:Dub Goku is still closer to the manga than Super Goku is.Gog wrote:This depends, are you referring to dub Goku? Or Sub Goku? I don't know much about Z Sub Goku, but I know more than I should about Dub Goku and he is nothing like Manga Goku.pacz360 wrote:Anime goku and manga goku are practically the same character.
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Sometimes bad dialog?Starkiller_Ren wrote:I realize it's the nostalgia, and I'm probably looking st it through rose colored glasses, but I really do enjoy Funimation's dub of Z and especially Faulconer's music. I totally see the issues people have with it- bad translations, sometimes bad dialogue, and I do agree that there should've been way more moments that are silent and not filled in with Faulconer music. But I grew up with it, so I really do love it
While I can't really watch the old dub, I do have fond memories of watching it at the time.
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DBS Goku is basically a giant wake up call to most fans. He IS Goku in his purest form. The only issue I have with DBS Goku is that they play up his stupid side a little too much. His selfishness is something that I don't mind at all. I enjoy it a lot, actually.
Dub Goku is so far away from who Goku really is that it's not even close. You can't tell me with a straight face that dub Goku is a more accurate version of Goku compared to DBS Goku.
Dub Goku is so far away from who Goku really is that it's not even close. You can't tell me with a straight face that dub Goku is a more accurate version of Goku compared to DBS Goku.
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After reading the 42 volume manga, I agree with torishima and that Dragon ball should have ended with freeza. Goku avenging his race, unlocking a new from, defeating the most powerful villain he has ever faced and he escapes from a destroying a planet.
The cell saga and the buu saga paint our characters in the worst light possible, the plotholes are swiss cheese level and you can just tell Toriyama was washed out
The cell saga and the buu saga paint our characters in the worst light possible, the plotholes are swiss cheese level and you can just tell Toriyama was washed out
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-Never liked Gohan, Goten or Kid Trunks
-LOVE Yamcha and Want him to become a main fighter again, it should have been him instead of Android 17 or Roshi
-Janemba was the best villain from the movies, wish he was canon
-Chiaotzu is the most pointless character within the entire franchise, the story would be nearly the same without him
-Broly is lame.
-I consider filler canon, since I never read the manga until much later in life, and I like seeing the side characters do stuff
-So, so sick of the "Goku is evil" shit, I don't think I've ever seen people freaking out and over-analyze a kids show more in my life
-LOVE Yamcha and Want him to become a main fighter again, it should have been him instead of Android 17 or Roshi
-Janemba was the best villain from the movies, wish he was canon
-Chiaotzu is the most pointless character within the entire franchise, the story would be nearly the same without him
-Broly is lame.
-I consider filler canon, since I never read the manga until much later in life, and I like seeing the side characters do stuff
-So, so sick of the "Goku is evil" shit, I don't think I've ever seen people freaking out and over-analyze a kids show more in my life
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That Chiaotzu opinion is far from unpopular. I think it's refreshing to see some love Yamcha though. I think he had ton of.potential.Colgatetoothpasteyum wrote:-Never liked Gohan, Goten or Kid Trunks
-LOVE Yamcha and Want him to become a main fighter again, it should have been him instead of Android 17 or Roshi
-Janemba was the best villain from the movies, wish he was canon
-Chiaotzu is the most pointless character within the entire franchise, the story would be nearly the same without him
-Broly is lame.
-I consider filler canon, since I never read the manga until much later in life, and I like seeing the side characters do stuff
-So, so sick of the "Goku is evil" shit, I don't think I've ever seen people freaking out and over-analyze a kids show more in my life
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