The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[dragon boss z]

But it was outright implied by Coola that CR Goku in that movie was as strong as Freeza at 100% CR Goku defeats EOZ Goku

I never got that implication. And when Cooler went to his final form Goku said his chi was greater than Frieza's, meaning before that it wasn't.

base Goku<=>base Cooler<<<100% Frieza<5th form Cooler<ssj Goku

And that means that he was as strong as Freeza before, now that he has ascended to the fifth form his power has surpassed that of his brother. And besides that Coola while fighting Goku admitted that he could see how he caused trouble against Freeza. And Freeza was dead at the time as well, so he couldn't have been referring to Goku giving Freeza a hard time.

100% Freeza <=> 100%Coola/Goku <<< 5th Form Coola <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< SSJ Goku

Base Goku did give Frieza a hard time though. He almost killed him with the spirit bomb too. Also right when Goku attacks Cooler you can hear what sounds to be the fain sound of the kaioken, which means he may of been using the kaioken the whole fight.

[Gog]

I never got that implication. And when Cooler went to his final form Goku said his chi was greater than Frieza's, meaning before that it wasn't.

base Goku<=>base Cooler<<<100% Frieza<5th form Cooler<ssj Goku

And that means that he was as strong as Freeza before, now that he has ascended to the fifth form his power has surpassed that of his brother. And besides that Coola while fighting Goku admitted that he could see how he caused trouble against Freeza. And Freeza was dead at the time as well, so he couldn't have been referring to Goku giving Freeza a hard time.

100% Freeza <=> 100%Coola/Goku <<< 5th Form Coola <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< SSJ Goku

Base Goku did give Frieza a hard time though. He almost killed him with the spirit bomb too. Also right when Goku attacks Cooler you can hear what sounds to be the fain sound of the kaioken, which means he may of been using the kaioken the whole fight.

What do you mean? Base Goku would have gotten finger flicked by Freeza and how would Coola know about the spirit bomb? The fact that you can here a Kaio Ken sound when he attacks Coola means nothing, as we never see the aura, and we never even see Goku utter the name. So until then Toei.

[dragon boss z]

What do you mean? Base Goku would have gotten finger flicked by Freeza and how would Coola know about the spirit bomb? The fact that you can here a Kaio Ken sound when he attacks Coola means nothing, as we never see the aura, and we never even see Goku utter the name. So until then Toei.

Cooler never said Goku's base was above Frieza's full power though. He could of been talking about suppressed Frieza, or even one of Frieza's other forms. All we know is Cooler was stated to be above Frieza after he transformed, and after Goku went ssj Cooler finally understood how Goku won. Before ssj he could see Goku giving Frieza trouble (which he did) after transforming he understood how he truly won.

[Gog]

What do you mean? Base Goku would have gotten finger flicked by Freeza and how would Coola know about the spirit bomb? The fact that you can here a Kaio Ken sound when he attacks Coola means nothing, as we never see the aura, and we never even see Goku utter the name. So until then Toei.

Cooler never said Goku's base was above Frieza's full power though. He could of been talking about suppressed Frieza, or even one of Frieza's other forms. All we know is Cooler was stated to be above Frieza after he transformed, and after Goku went ssj Cooler finally understood how Goku won. Before ssj he could see Goku giving Frieza trouble (which he did) after transforming he understood how he truly won.

Why the hell would Coola be searching for the legendary Super Saiyan with a power level of 600 thousand or a million. It makes most sense in the context of the universe and narrative for Coola to be referring to Freeza 100%. And heck what's to say that Coola surpassed Finial Form Freeza 100% all that was ever stated was that he was stronger than Freeza. For all we know he could have surpassed third form Freeza. Now that I think about it you could make a convincing case for Coola and Goku having power levels of 600 thousand in that movie, or a million in that movie.

[Bullza]

Piccolo i mean the guy was training eight months with gohan so him getting some stronger than the kids should be possible.

Well that could be arguable though because he was stronger too in the manga and they never trained in that version. All that was said was that Gohan was the one being retrained. Nothing was said about Piccolo getting stronger.

[dragon boss z]

What do you mean? Base Goku would have gotten finger flicked by Freeza and how would Coola know about the spirit bomb? The fact that you can here a Kaio Ken sound when he attacks Coola means nothing, as we never see the aura, and we never even see Goku utter the name. So until then Toei.

Cooler never said Goku's base was above Frieza's full power though. He could of been talking about suppressed Frieza, or even one of Frieza's other forms. All we know is Cooler was stated to be above Frieza after he transformed, and after Goku went ssj Cooler finally understood how Goku won. Before ssj he could see Goku giving Frieza trouble (which he did) after transforming he understood how he truly won.

Why the hell would Coola be searching for the legendary Super Saiyan with a power level of 600 thousand or a million. It makes most sense in the context of the universe and narrative for Coola to be referring to Freeza 100%. And heck what's to say that Coola surpassed Finial Form Freeza 100% all that was ever stated was that he was stronger than Freeza. For all we know he could have surpassed third form Freeza. Now that I think about it you could make a convincing case for Coola and Goku having power levels of 600 thousand in that movie, or a million in that movie.

Goku's base was around 5 million in the movie imo. That is plenty high enough for Cooler to think he could give Frieza trouble. Also Cooler is cocky and didn't like his brother and most likely underestimated Frieza.

[Gog]

Cooler never said Goku's base was above Frieza's full power though. He could of been talking about suppressed Frieza, or even one of Frieza's other forms. All we know is Cooler was stated to be above Frieza after he transformed, and after Goku went ssj Cooler finally understood how Goku won. Before ssj he could see Goku giving Frieza trouble (which he did) after transforming he understood how he truly won.

Why the hell would Coola be searching for the legendary Super Saiyan with a power level of 600 thousand or a million. It makes most sense in the context of the universe and narrative for Coola to be referring to Freeza 100%. And heck what's to say that Coola surpassed Finial Form Freeza 100% all that was ever stated was that he was stronger than Freeza. For all we know he could have surpassed third form Freeza. Now that I think about it you could make a convincing case for Coola and Goku having power levels of 600 thousand in that movie, or a million in that movie.

Goku's base was around 5 million in the movie imo. That is plenty high enough for Cooler to think he could give Frieza trouble. Also Cooler is cocky and didn't like his brother and most likely underestimated Frieza.

What is a power level of five million to one over a hundred million. Freeza was dead, killed by the Legendary Super Saiyan. What do you mean? Coola was shown through out the film as being a more pragmatic (boring) version of Freeza. He wouldn't have underestimated him, and there's the fact that Coola couldn't have been referring to any of the lower forms as it not only would have made no sense in the context of the narrative.

But it wouldn't have even made any sense in universe, because once again Goku the legendary Super Saiyan with a power level of 600 thousand!

[Noah]

EoZ Goku easily.

Coola's Revenge Goku was as strong as 100% Freeza, did End Of Z Goku ever manage to accomplish that level of strength?

I think is obvious that SSJ End of Z Goku is far above Frieza.

Ignoring God BS, Super and GT, nothing was ever stated that Goku, 10 years after his battle with Majin Boo has surpassed Freeza in Base.

[apex_pretador]

Giant Bergamo vs. Golden Freeza

Who wins?

Golden freeza totally stomps big bad wolf.

Bergamo vs. Super 17

Super 17 is probably more powerful in base, and did not show lmitations in power absorbed. Super 17 wins.

Piccolo Buu V Super Buu

Piccolo buu wins because he is stronger , smarter and has more techniques.

DBS base Goku vs Gotenks

Goku.

Equal power levels and no Transformations.

Gohan Vs Tien

Krillin vs 17

Roshi Vs Piccolo

F. Trunks vs Tao pai pai

If this is cell-games gohan or current gohan, then gohan otherwise Tien.

Krillin

Piccolo

Trunks

[dragonball0900]

Coola's Revenge Goku was as strong as 100% Freeza, did End Of Z Goku ever manage to accomplish that level of strength?

I think is obvious that SSJ End of Z Goku is far above Frieza.

Ignoring God BS, Super and GT, nothing was ever stated that Goku, 10 years after his battle with Majin Boo has surpassed Freeza in Base.

I was referring to SSJ Goku, the one who made the post mentioned SSJ form, not base form. And the SSJ form of Goku is obviously above Frieza.

[Noah]

I was referring to SSJ Goku, the one who made the post mentioned SSJ form, not base form. And the SSJ form of Goku is obviously above Frieza.

Oh sure, sorry! My mistake.

[Ki Breaker]

Current Piccolo vs Super perfect cell

[dragon boss z]

Why the hell would Coola be searching for the legendary Super Saiyan with a power level of 600 thousand or a million. It makes most sense in the context of the universe and narrative for Coola to be referring to Freeza 100%. And heck what's to say that Coola surpassed Finial Form Freeza 100% all that was ever stated was that he was stronger than Freeza. For all we know he could have surpassed third form Freeza. Now that I think about it you could make a convincing case for Coola and Goku having power levels of 600 thousand in that movie, or a million in that movie.

Goku's base was around 5 million in the movie imo. That is plenty high enough for Cooler to think he could give Frieza trouble. Also Cooler is cocky and didn't like his brother and most likely underestimated Frieza.

What is a power level of five million to one over a hundred million. Freeza was dead, killed by the Legendary Super Saiyan. What do you mean? Coola was shown through out the film as being a more pragmatic (boring) version of Freeza. He wouldn't have underestimated him, and there's the fact that Coola couldn't have been referring to any of the lower forms as it not only would have made no sense in the context of the narrative.

But it wouldn't have even made any sense in universe, because once again Goku the legendary Super Saiyan with a power level of 600 thousand!

Ok first off I don't know why you keep bringing up 600,000, and for a saiyan that actually would be amazing. Vegeta was the strongest saiyan of the time with a power level of 18,000. And 5 million is a massive power level. It just seems small because the characters got so strong, but back when Frieza ruled most of the known universe, pretty much nobody was stronger than his 530,000.
Also Cooler may of known base Goku was holding back. Frieza also guessed Goku was holding back on him.

[Gog]

Goku's base was around 5 million in the movie imo. That is plenty high enough for Cooler to think he could give Frieza trouble. Also Cooler is cocky and didn't like his brother and most likely underestimated Frieza.

What is a power level of five million to one over a hundred million. Freeza was dead, killed by the Legendary Super Saiyan. What do you mean? Coola was shown through out the film as being a more pragmatic (boring) version of Freeza. He wouldn't have underestimated him, and there's the fact that Coola couldn't have been referring to any of the lower forms as it not only would have made no sense in the context of the narrative.

But it wouldn't have even made any sense in universe, because once again Goku the legendary Super Saiyan with a power level of 600 thousand!

Ok first off I don't know why you keep bringing up 600,000, and for a saiyan that actually would be amazing. Vegeta was the strongest saiyan of the time with a power level of 18,000. And 5 million is a massive power level. It just seems small because the characters got so strong, but back when Frieza ruled most of the known universe, pretty much nobody was stronger than his 530,000.
Also Cooler may of known base Goku was holding back. Frieza also guessed Goku was holding back on him.

The 600,000 power level is a joke that I'm using to point out how ridiculous it would be for Coola to be referring to anything but Freeza's finial form. But nothing ever stated or even implied that Coola knew that Goku was holding back the Super Saiyan Form.

[dragon boss z]

The 600,000 power level is a joke that I'm using to point out how ridiculous it would be for Coola to be referring to anything but Freeza's finial form. But nothing ever stated or even implied that Coola knew that Goku was holding back the Super Saiyan Form.

Cooler didn't even know for sure Goku was a super saiyan to begin with. And unless Cooler said, "wow you are stronger than Frieza" then we can't say he was.

[Gog]

The 600,000 power level is a joke that I'm using to point out how ridiculous it would be for Coola to be referring to anything but Freeza's finial form. But nothing ever stated or even implied that Coola knew that Goku was holding back the Super Saiyan Form.

Cooler didn't even know for sure Goku was a super saiyan to begin with. And unless Cooler said, "wow you are stronger than Frieza" then we can't say he was.

Coola came to a planet, to kill the Legendary Super Saiyan. How would he not know? Honestly you do have a point, however it makes more sense in the narrative and in universe for Coola to be referring to Finial Form Freeza.

[CrimsonRex]

Cabba vs. Android 18

[Gog]

Cabba vs. Android 18

Cabba crushes her in one punch

[dragon boss z]

The 600,000 power level is a joke that I'm using to point out how ridiculous it would be for Coola to be referring to anything but Freeza's finial form. But nothing ever stated or even implied that Coola knew that Goku was holding back the Super Saiyan Form.

Cooler didn't even know for sure Goku was a super saiyan to begin with. And unless Cooler said, "wow you are stronger than Frieza" then we can't say he was.

Coola came to a planet, to kill the Legendary Super Saiyan. How would he not know? Honestly you do have a point, however it makes more sense in the narrative and in universe for Coola to be referring to Finial Form Freeza.

Well I'm not saying it's impossible for base Goku to be stronger than final form Frieza in movie 5, I just don't think there is enough evidence to say that for certain.

[dragon boss z]

Cabba vs. Android 18

base Cabba loses, ssj Cabba stomps