Discussion, generally of an in-universe nature, regarding any aspect of the franchise (including movies, spin-offs, etc.) such as: techniques, character relationships, internal back-history, its universe, and more.
dragon boss z wrote:
Cooler didn't even know for sure Goku was a super saiyan to begin with. And unless Cooler said, "wow you are stronger than Frieza" then we can't say he was.
Coola came to a planet, to kill the Legendary Super Saiyan. How would he not know? Honestly you do have a point, however it makes more sense in the narrative and in universe for Coola to be referring to Finial Form Freeza.
Well I'm not saying it's impossible for base Goku to be stronger than final form Frieza in movie 5, I just don't think there is enough evidence to say that for certain.
You've got a point, it's just that more evidence points to him being as strong as finial form Freeza.
Gog wrote:
This is anime Kid Buu and Anime Vegetto...
Anime Vegetto>manga Vegetto
manga kid Buu=anime kid Buu
so I don't see your point.
Anime Buu was stated to be the strongest Buu in the anime.
can i get an episode number and time? I thought he was stated to be the most dangerous. I could see him being stronger than regular super Buu, but super Buu with Gotenks or Gohan absorbed? That makes no sense. ssj3 Goku was losing against Buutenks but he was equal with kid Buu.
dragon boss z wrote:
Anime Vegetto>manga Vegetto
manga kid Buu=anime kid Buu
so I don't see your point.
Anime Buu was stated to be the strongest Buu in the anime.
can i get an episode number and time? I thought he was stated to be the most dangerous. I could see him being stronger than regular super Buu, but super Buu with Gotenks or Gohan absorbed? That makes no sense. ssj3 Goku was losing against Buutenks but he was equal with kid Buu.
Gog wrote:
Anime Buu was stated to be the strongest Buu in the anime.
can i get an episode number and time? I thought he was stated to be the most dangerous. I could see him being stronger than regular super Buu, but super Buu with Gotenks or Gohan absorbed? That makes no sense. ssj3 Goku was losing against Buutenks but he was equal with kid Buu.
Gog wrote:
Anime Buu was stated to be the strongest Buu in the anime.
can i get an episode number and time? I thought he was stated to be the most dangerous. I could see him being stronger than regular super Buu, but super Buu with Gotenks or Gohan absorbed? That makes no sense. ssj3 Goku was losing against Buutenks but he was equal with kid Buu.
Ki Breaker wrote:Ultimate Gohan's Shin kikoho vs Gotenks buu
Can he survive that
I would have to assume that a Shin Kikoho from Ultimate Gohan of all people would be more than strong enough to destroy Boo and thorough enough to ensure that he couldn't come back from it, even if it took two or three shots to be sure.
Ki Breaker wrote:Current Piccolo vs Super Perfect Cell
I have current Piccolo almost strong as SSJ2 Gohan in the Cell Games, but I don't think he could defeat Cell yet. Cell has better skills, smarts and regeneration. I think it could be 56% (Cell) against 44% (Piccolo) chance of winning.
CrimsonRex wrote:Cabba vs. Android 18
I don't buy all that nonsense crap Cabba = Super Saiyan God, I have him around 100mi BP in Base so I think his only chance to defeat C-18 is turning into SSJ.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
nickzambuto wrote:Was the faded Spirit Bomb Kuririn threw at Vegeta still stronger than Goku's KKx4 Kamehameha?
How powerful was the Spirit Bomb before fading?
It was nowhere close to Goku's x4 Kamehameha, it didn't even kill a severely weakened Vegeta who'd lost a lot of power. It was likely even weaker than Goku's regular Kamehameha. Vegeta lost a huge amount of power by the time it hit him:
1) He got his ass kicked by Kaioken x3 Goku and then took a direct hit from a x4 Kamehameha.
2) He lost some power when he created the power ball.
3) He was further weakened when his tail got chopped off.
By this point he was so weakened that even Gohan was able to put up a good fight against him.
I'd say pre-fading it'd be weaker than a Kaioken x2 Kamehameha since Goku says he lost about half.
Gog wrote:Finial form King Cold (anime) V Perfect Cell.
I think that whatever King Cold's true power is, whether he can transform or not, it is at least somewhat less than the full power that Freeza was packing. One of the Daizenshuu (I forget which), describes Cold's strength as being somewhat inferior to Freeza's, and the pre-release stuff for Resurrection F says that Freeza is the only one of his family with such bottomless potential. He's definitely not a match for Perfect Cell.
