The two most well synchronized fighters won't participate. So much for team work.

[ChronoTwigger]

I think its funny people accept Roshi as being strong enough to compete when even in Dragon Ball Goku had surpassed him.

By this logic, not even Goten had to join, as Goku is stronger.
Well, no one had to compete, by your logic.

[GodKaio-Ken]

I think its funny people accept Roshi as being strong enough to compete when even in Dragon Ball Goku had surpassed him.

By this logic, not even Goten had to join, as Goku is stronger.
Well, no one had to compete, by your logic.

What you said makes absolutely no sense.

Everyone else is MUCH MUCH stronger than KID GOKU or at that time they were also children/young and surpassing Roshi.

[ChronoTwigger]

I think its funny people accept Roshi as being strong enough to compete when even in Dragon Ball Goku had surpassed him.

By this logic, not even Goten had to join, as Goku is stronger.
Well, no one had to compete, by your logic.

What you said makes absolutely no sense.

Everyone else is MUCH MUCH stronger than KID GOKU or at that time they were also children/young and surpassing Roshi.

What YOU said makes absolute no sense. If you use Goku as comparison, no one is strong enough. Well, Roshi WAS at least winning once, you can't say the same of anyone.
And if you want to gather the 10 stronger and experienced fighters on Earth, Roshi is the 10th choice.
As for Goten... is a kid. was nerfed, he's totally unreliable, can't punch a fly and shit himself of his own shadow.
Take RoF and look. Roshi fighted, Gohan and his gay partner get nerfed at atrocious levels. Gotenks SSJ3 now only purpose is to act as cellphoine call to have Goku come in and save the day.

Accept the truth, you're betting on a dead horse. Goten is the new Oolong.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

They're well-synchronized morons. Sure, they have good teamwork, but they're always too arrogant or misguided to accomplish anything. That's their trademark, they wouldn't be useful in a tournament.

[Yomi]

They aren't the most synchronized fighters, in any regard. They can fuse, that's about it.
Also, Gotenks and the boys never get anything done anyway. They're just too immature right now,
They would probably mess up somehow due to that fact. Roshi has hundreds of years of experience under his belt.

[TheUltimateNinja]

The only thing Goten and Trunks could possibly offer is power since they completely suck at everything else, and Gotenks is already eclipsed by Goku, Vegeta and Gohan so including them would be pointless.

[Big Black Sayian]

To fair there's gonna 80 fighters. Who's to say Roshi isn't stronger than the majority of them?:P

[Yedis]

They already established in-universe that power only won't be enough and tactics would be important.

Probably why Roshi is selected over Goten/Trunks.

[dragonballgeek]

I kinda see Goten and Trunks as two Saiyan who fight for the fun of it. Not because they need to survive like the other z fighters.

When your dads are always saving the world, why feel the need? I know they both want to help out, but for some reason they don't want them involved in the arcs right now. Which stinks. The whole buu saga was about Goku passing the torch, but I guess they said screw it.

Anyways, this could be intentional neglect for a future arc.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

The only thing Goten and Trunks could possibly offer is power since they completely suck at everything else, and Gotenks is already eclipsed by Goku, Vegeta and Gohan so including them would be pointless.

Not to mention Gotenks hinders the team because they're combining two into one and he's incredibly immature. If Toriyama didn't include them for the Freeza fight then he's obviously not gonna include them here.

[Cabba]

I AfuckinGree, It doesnt make any fucking sense to have roshi or kuririn there other than nostalgia
Roshi has a 200 power level ffs, even on the most optimistic of truth stretching expectations he is not above a lowly saibamen. He does not have any special technique to punch above his weight either, and mafuba put tremendous stress on his body to seal king piccolo which again is not even saibamen tier. There is not amount of wits, strategy or martial arts debauchery that would make roshi stand up to the strongest of each universe mind you. Its not like majin boo or cell where they have special traits that allow them to punch above their weight.

Same thing about kuririn to a lesser degree, I'm hoping tien got a substantial boost
No matter how childish: goten and trunks even in base form are much more useful than fucking roshi, kuririn and tien
I dont understand why Goten and Trunks are getting pushed aside

I kinda see Goten and Trunks as two Saiyan who fight for the fun of it. Not because they need to survive like the other z fighters.

Even assuming they dont take it seriously.
What could Kuririn and let alone roshi possibly do to stand up to Reacom for example? who by now is nothing special btw
Unless all other universes are shit (they are not) their bare minimum should be namek freeza tier

This is not some earth tournament for sport, they are fighting the strongest foes of each respective universe fighting for survival

The only thing Goten and Trunks could possibly offer is power since they completely suck at everything else, and Gotenks is already eclipsed by Goku, Vegeta and Gohan so including them would be pointless.

Not to mention Gotenks hinders the team because they're combining two into one and he's incredibly immature. If Toriyama didn't include them for the Freeza fight then he's obviously not gonna include them here.

Even unfused at their base forms they are much more useful than roshi and kuririn, let alone their SS self

[Cabba]

To fair there's gonna 80 fighters. Who's to say Roshi isn't stronger than the majority of them?:P

That would be so fucking terrible, but i already fear there would be some Roshi tier characters, what a joke the 10 strongest of the universe and the best they can master is is not even saibamen level, if this is the level of the so called strongest of the universe tournament then Mr Satan might as well participate and as a bonus serve as motivator for Mr Buu heck throw Videl into the mix to serve as a motivator for Gohan

[The gr]

I AfuckinGree, It doesnt make any fucking sense to have roshi or kuririn there other than nostalgia
Roshi has a 200 power level ffs, even on the most optimistic of truth stretching expectations he is not above a lowly saibamen. He does not have any special technique to punch above his weight either, and mafuba put tremendous stress on his body to seal king piccolo which again is not even saibamen tier. There is not amount of wits, strategy or martial arts debauchery that would make roshi stand up to the strongest of each universe mind you. Its not like majin boo or cell where they have special traits that allow them to punch above their weight.

Same thing about kuririn to a lesser degree, I'm hoping tien got a substantial boost
No matter how childish: goten and trunks even in base form are much more useful than fucking roshi, kuririn and tien
I dont understand why Goten and Trunks are getting pushed aside

I kinda see Goten and Trunks as two Saiyan who fight for the fun of it. Not because they need to survive like the other z fighters.

Even assuming they dont take it seriously.
What could Kuririn and let alone roshi possibly do to stand up to Reacom for example? who by now is nothing special btw
Unless all other universes are shit (they are not) their bare minimum should be namek freeza tier

I'm pretty sure krillin could kill reacomme with ease bruh, and you know this tournament is not about raw power rather is about strategy and tactics,do you even know the rules here, you need to outsmart your opponent to win this so your ranting for nothing and roshi is above a saibamen let alone raditz

the reason why Goten and trunks is not In the tournament of power because A) toriyama really don't give a damn about Goten and trunks

B) or maybe they don't want nozawa voicing that much characters

[dragonballgeek]

Even assuming they dont take it seriously.
What could Kuririn and let alone roshi possibly do to stand up to Reacom for example? who by now is nothing special btw
Unless all other universes are shit (they are not) their bare minimum should be namek freeza tier

This is not some earth tournament for sport, they are fighting the strongest foes of each respective universe fighting for

Not sure why the assumption was made that I thought krillin and roshi should be in it. I absolutely wish they weren't. I would much rather see Goten and Trunks in there. They need the experience and exposure

[Cabba]

I'm pretty sure krillin could kill reacomme with ease bruh, and you know this tournament is not about raw power rather is about strategy and tactics,do you even know the rules here, you need to outsmart your opponent to win this so your ranting for nothing and roshi is above a saibamen let alone raditz

the reason why Goten and trunks because A) toriyama really don't give a damn about Goten and trunks

B) or maybe they don't want nozawa voicing that much characters

When has kuririn ever shown any strength or qualities that would match reacom? if anything i would say Tien, he had trouble taking down freeza henchmen in RoF!
Or are you refferring to that DBS episode with goku where he used godish ki? It would be interesting if true

The thing is, even if not about raw power Roshi has absolutely nothing, NOTHING that would make him useful against raditz let alone some reacom tier enemy
Lets say for argument sake kuririn is Captain ginyu tier which is absolutely laughable, but lets assume he is even with his wits amped up and kiemzam to the mix Goten and Trunks are much more useful than that, even if they dont take it seriously.

Any one of the foes dont need to concoct some complex tactix or hax to take them out, all they have to do is emit a ki blast wave to push them of the stage, kinda like goku did to chichi in the tournament or use speed to fool them and knock them out unconscious like vegeta did to goten and trunks or like Beerus did too Goku and all Z fighters during the Battle of Gods movie

Bolded: WTF? how? when? When did this happen? during the saiyan saga he was not even 200 power level, he did not have any training since then. How do you come to this conclusion? RoF?
Second bolded: If thats the reason that would really suck, i would take new voices any day to give them more relevance

[Cabba]

Not sure why the assumption was made that I thought krillin and roshi should be in it. I absolutely wish they weren't. I would much rather see Goten and Trunks in there. They need the experience and exposure

My bad for that assumption, when you said the Z fighters fighting for survival i thought you implied them taking it more seriously would make them somehow more useful than goten or trunks.

tbh I'm glad they are over with the passing the torch thing, i never felt the hybrids deserved any of it. imo Goku and Vegeta transcended mortals now and they dont need to be subject to biology limitations of passing the torch to new generations.

[The gr]

I'm pretty sure krillin could kill reacomme with ease bruh, and you know this tournament is not about raw power rather is about strategy and tactics,do you even know the rules here, you need to outsmart your opponent to win this so your ranting for nothing and roshi is above a saibamen let alone raditz

the reason why Goten and trunks because A) toriyama really don't give a damn about Goten and trunks

B) or maybe they don't want nozawa voicing that much characters

When has kuririn ever shown any strength or qualities that would match reacom? if anything i would say Tien, he had trouble taking down freeza henchmen in RoF!
Or are you refferring to that DBS episode with goku where he used godish ki? It would be interesting if true

The thing is, even if not about raw power Roshi has absolutely nothing, NOTHING that would make him useful against raditz let alone some reacom tier enemy
Lets say for argument sake kuririn is Captain ginyu tier which is absolutely laughable, but lets assume he is even with his wits amped up and kiemzam to the mix Goten and Trunks are much more useful than that, even if they dont take it seriously.

Any one of the foes dont need to concoct some complex tactix or hax to take them out, all they have to do is emit a ki blast wave to push them of the stage, kinda like goku did to chichi in the tournament or use speed to fool them and knock them out unconscious like vegeta did to goten and trunks or like Beerus did too Goku and all Z fighters during the Battle of Gods movie

Bolded: WTF? how? when? When did this happen? during the saiyan saga he was not even 200 power level, he did not have any training since then. How do you come to this conclusion? RoF?
Second bolded: If thats the reason that would really suck, i would take new voices any day to give them more relevance

in one of the guides stated krillin power has increased during the frieza figth to 70,000 meanwhile reacomme has a power level of 40,000 and roshi did got strong by training for 4 months,he is at least above raditz and nappa i recommend you watch this video about roshi power level and tien was not struggling to a frieza grunt

[dragonballgeek]

Not sure why the assumption was made that I thought krillin and roshi should be in it. I absolutely wish they weren't. I would much rather see Goten and Trunks in there. They need the experience and exposure

My bad for that assumption, when you said the Z fighters fighting for survival i thought you implied them taking it more seriously would make them somehow more useful than goten or trunks.

tbh I'm glad they are over with the passing the torch thing, i never felt the hybrids deserved any of it. imo Goku and Vegeta transcended mortals now and they dont need to be subject to biology limitations of passing the torch to new generations.

Well the thing is Goten and Trunks actually want to fight. They're not like Gohan. I kinda wish they'd pay more attention to them and let them fight more often.

Now is not the time for it but I would like to see an episode where Goku and Vegeta pass their knowledge of everything down to them and what not

[Cabba]

in one of the guides stated krillin power has increased during the frieza figth to 70,000 meanwhile reacomme has a power level of 40,000 and roshi did got strong by training for 4 months,he is at least above raditz and nappa i recommend you watch this video about roshi power level and tien was not struggling to a frieza grunt

I will check video tomorrow as i have to hit the sack now, but i very much doubt Kuririn went from below 8000 (post elder unlock) to over 70.000 he is not a saiyan he does not get stronger after near death recovery, nor does he show rapid increase of strength while fighting like saiyans do. This guide you speak off screams of unofficial and fan made but I'm rather interested to read it if you come across it
Bolded was my shit grammar/english at play. I meant kuririn was struggling against the lowly frezaa henchman who average 1000 power level. Reacom would have no problem with them let alone someone with 70.000 power level

The fact that you sincerely belive roshi could possibly match nappa has peaked my interest, i will check the video tomorrow but i doubt it holds any substance, I find it so impossible to be truth, at the most optimistic of scenarios i would put him at the Kuririn tier during the saiyan saga. And even that seems unrealistic for me

Well the thing is Goten and Trunks actually want to fight. They're not like Gohan. I kinda wish they'd pay more attention to them and let them fight more often.

Now is not the time for it but I would like to see an episode where Goku and Vegeta pass their knowledge of everything down to them and what not

Sure, i would love for them to have a BIG role and relevant power levels, but not the main hero role not ever. The only one i would enjoy seeing leading besides goku is Vegeta and maybe cabba in a spin off anime

[dragonballgeek]

in one of the guides stated krillin power has increased during the frieza figth to 70,000 meanwhile reacomme has a power level of 40,000 and roshi did got strong by training for 4 months,he is at least above raditz and nappa i recommend you watch this video about roshi power level and tien was not struggling to a frieza grunt

I will check video tomorrow as i have to hit the sack now, but i very much doubt Kuririn went from below 8000 (post elder unlock) to over 70.000 he is not a saiyan he does not get stronger after near death recovery, nor does he show rapid increase of strength while fighting like saiyans do. This guide you speak off screams of unofficial and fan made but I'm rather interested to read it if you come across it
Bolded was my shit grammar/english at play. I meant kuririn was struggling against the lowly frezaa henchman who average 1000 power level. Reacom would have no problem with them let alone someone with 70.000 power level

The fact that you sincerely belive roshi could possibly match nappa has peaked my interest, i will check the video tomorrow but i doubt it holds any substance, I find it so impossible to be truth, at the most optimistic of scenarios i would put him at the Kuririn tier during the saiyan saga. And even that seems unrealistic for me

Well the thing is Goten and Trunks actually want to fight. They're not like Gohan. I kinda wish they'd pay more attention to them and let them fight more often.

Now is not the time for it but I would like to see an episode where Goku and Vegeta pass their knowledge of everything down to them and what not

Sure, i would love for them to have a BIG role and relevant power levels, but not the main hero role not ever. The only one i would enjoy seeing leading besides goku is Vegeta and maybe cabba in a spin off anime

I could've guessed that based off of your name and avatar