Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

[The gr]

Because Final Form Frieza was roughly as strong as Base Goku when he had the power of Super Saiyan God making Final Form Frieza essentially God level. He was hundreds of times stronger than Super Saiyan Gohan.

Meanwhile as the manga shows Super Saiyan God is far above any of the regular Super Saiyan forms so they aren't God level. They're basically just at a similar enough level to what they were in the Buu saga which is why Piccolo is able to give Final Form Frost so much trouble.

This is where that whole Saiyan Beyond God thing comes into it. The Base Goku who fought Frieza is not the same as the Base Goku who fought Botamo and Frost.

But does that applied to the anime, because it make sense for the manga,but for the anime I need some statements to prove that since both products are different continuity, and this Saiyan beyond god thing,is it canon or is just a headcanon, because I never heard about this in the series or in a guidebook

It is as far as I can tell just a fan thing based on a card from Dragon Ball Heroes. Thats IT!

This whole thing was spawned by DB Heroes, you know the game that gives characters made up attacks and transformation! It might, MIGHT, have been a thing when RoF came out but Super has come along since then and just like that Beerus is a 10 and Whis is a 15 crap, it no longer exists anymore as Super has gone back to our heroes using SS form again.

so that is just a headcanon, and DB heroes is not that reliable when it come to information,but that theory is possible, but I need an actual statement from the author to confirm this

[Lord Frieza]

But does that applied to the anime, because it make sense for the manga,but for the anime I need some statements to prove that since both products are different continuity, and this Saiyan beyond god thing,is it canon or is just a headcanon, because I never heard about this in the series or in a guidebook

It is as far as I can tell just a fan thing based on a card from Dragon Ball Heroes. Thats IT!

This whole thing was spawned by DB Heroes, you know the game that gives characters made up attacks and transformation! It might, MIGHT, have been a thing when RoF came out but Super has come along since then and just like that Beerus is a 10 and Whis is a 15 crap, it no longer exists anymore as Super has gone back to our heroes using SS form again.

so that is just a headcanon, and DB heroes is not that reliable when it come to information,but that theory is plausible in the manga, but I need an actual statement from the author to confirm this

Well their is non. Saiyan Beyond God is only a video game concept. The only thing that was ever said by Toryiama was that Goku was going to drop his other SS forms for Blue. That was it.

And its become more then clear at this point that the man must have changed his mind befor or during Super's conseption. Just like his comments post BoG's have been over written, its not that big a jump to think whatever his plans were post RoF have been over written to.

There is NO official evidence SBG even being a thing in the show or from the creators. Goku has never "turned on" his god ki in base, it has only ever been stated to have activated in SSB.

[Bullza]

You're claiming it's a mistake because you disagree with it.

I don't disagree with it. As far as Toriyama was concerned after he absorbed that power there was no need for him to transform into it. So it didn't happen in the anime version to better fit with how he was supposed to have been this Saiyan Beyond God that was promoted for Resurrection F.

It's just like how they fixed the number of wishes Shenron granted, the line about Frieza having a power level of 1.3 million and having Goku revert to Base before being shot by Sorbet.

Until you can prove that Goku absorbed that power in the manga then it remains a huge difference from the anime. The anime stuck to what happened with the movies and the manga went a completely different route by having it be a separate transformation. That difference is what created all the confusion in the power scale.

"Saiyan Beyond God" is just their normal base state after absorbing God and they were shown to turn into a basic Super Saiyan from that state

Again being a mistake. Super Saiyan Blue was only supposed to be him turning Super Saiyan after he'd absorbed God. That was the one and only reason he became it.

So he never should have been able to turn into a regular Super Saiyan after that. That is exactly why the manga never had Goku absorb that power so he could still turn into it. Unfortunately the anime did have him absorb it.

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

You're claiming it's a mistake because you disagree with it.

I don't disagree with it. As far as Toriyama was concerned after he absorbed that power there was no need for him to transform into it. So it didn't happen in the anime version to better fit with how he was supposed to have been this Saiyan Beyond God that was promoted for Resurrection F.

It's just like how they fixed the number of wishes Shenron granted, the line about Frieza having a power level of 1.3 million and having Goku revert to Base before being shot by Sorbet.

Until you can prove that Goku absorbed that power in the manga then it remains a huge difference from the anime. The anime stuck to what happened with the movies and the manga went a completely different route by having it be a separate transformation. That difference is what created all the confusion in the power scale.

"Saiyan Beyond God" is just their normal base state after absorbing God and they were shown to turn into a basic Super Saiyan from that state

Again being a mistake. Super Saiyan Blue was only supposed to be him turning Super Saiyan after he'd absorbed God. That was the one and only reason he became it.

So he never should have been able to turn into a regular Super Saiyan after that. That is exactly why the manga never had Goku absorb that power so he could still turn into it. Unfortunately the anime did have him absorb it.

Stop labeling your theories as fact. You are not Toei or Toriyama, so unless you can get a statement from them saying that Goku using SSJG in the movie and the Saiyans using basic SSJ is a mistake, they aren't. And no, Super Saiyan Blue isn't meant to replace their basic Super Saiyan. That isn't implied, not even if we use the line that you keep misinterpreting to fit your agenda.

You being confused doesn't mean that theres "confusion" on an official level. That's entirely your problem if you can't understand something so basic.

I don't need to prove that Goku absorbed it in the manga. He can use Super Saiyan Blue, which means that he possesses it's power. He transformed into SSJG, so we know he possesses it's power. There is no further distinction.

[Triggered Vegeta]

After Frieza transforms into his final form, Frieza asks Goku if he will transform into a super saiyan.

Goku's reply: Nah, I don't need to go that far.

This would imply that transforming into a Super Saiyan, would make him stronger than his God Base and not the other way around.

Either Goku was talking about ssgss or regular ssj... that's up to ya'll to decide.

If he was talking about regular ssj, this would mean Frost is stronger than Frieza, besides his Golden form.

Even If you wanna say he has the same base he used in RoF... it's clearly not God level... otherwise Copy Vegeta would've crippled Gotenks in one blow, not 30+ Vegeta was going for the kill on Gotenks and still failed to do the job. If that were Mssj Vegito, Gotenks wouldn't be able to block shots to protect himself like he did against Base Vegeta... Vegito would break his arms.

There's also no proof Vegeta held back, he was going for the kill yet took so many blows... someone like ssjG Goku could do that in one chop.

Base Goku = Base Vegeta

Planet Potaufeu was mentioned in the Goku Black arc... so it's not filler... base should still be that strong if not stronger.

[ChiefWamsutta]

You're claiming it's a mistake because you disagree with it.

I don't disagree with it. As far as Toriyama was concerned after he absorbed that power there was no need for him to transform into it. So it didn't happen in the anime version to better fit with how he was supposed to have been this Saiyan Beyond God that was promoted for Resurrection F.

It's just like how they fixed the number of wishes Shenron granted, the line about Frieza having a power level of 1.3 million and having Goku revert to Base before being shot by Sorbet.

Until you can prove that Goku absorbed that power in the manga then it remains a huge difference from the anime. The anime stuck to what happened with the movies and the manga went a completely different route by having it be a separate transformation. That difference is what created all the confusion in the power scale.

"Saiyan Beyond God" is just their normal base state after absorbing God and they were shown to turn into a basic Super Saiyan from that state

Again being a mistake. Super Saiyan Blue was only supposed to be him turning Super Saiyan after he'd absorbed God. That was the one and only reason he became it.

So he never should have been able to turn into a regular Super Saiyan after that. That is exactly why the manga never had Goku absorb that power so he could still turn into it. Unfortunately the anime did have him absorb it.

I would like to point out that in the manga Goku transforms into a SSG against Hit and Trunks. He absorbed the Super Saiyan God form and didn't need to use a ritual to become it anymore. That WAS the manga's way of him absorbing the power.

[Bullza]

I don't need to prove that Goku absorbed it in the manga.

That's because you can't. What was a major plot point of the Battle of God's saga never happened in the manga, his time limit wasn't said to expire, he didn't go back to Super Saiyan and continued fighting, they didn't say he'd absorbed it and it's shown he can turn into that form at will.

All of which the complete opposite of what is portrayed in the anime. There is no "but the writers just didn't choose to have him become a Super Saiyan God". He doesn't for reasons given by Toriyama.

I would like to point out that in the manga Goku transforms into a SSG against Hit and Trunks. He absorbed the Super Saiyan God form and didn't need to use a ritual to become it anymore. That WAS the manga's way of him absorbing the power.

Even so it's completely different from the anime. In the anime the power was said to have fully merged with him, he already had the power in him at all times so turning into would do nothing but change his hair colour.

That's why Toriyama said he didn't need to transform into it. He transforms into it in the manga though because he hasn't got that power in his Base state which is why he's weaker than Piccolo and why he can still turn into Super Saiyan.

[Lord Frieza]

At the end of the day Saiyan Beyond God is as cannon as...

Red Eyed Namekian Gods.


God Majin


God Androids.


or God Power up Kaioshin.


In other words NOT AT ALL!

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

I don't need to prove that Goku absorbed it in the manga.

That's because you can't. What was a major plot point of the Battle of God's saga never happened in the manga, his time limit wasn't said to expire, he didn't go back to Super Saiyan and continued fighting, they didn't say he'd absorbed it and it's shown he can turn into that form at will.

All of which the complete opposite of what is portrayed in the anime. There is no "but the writers just didn't choose to have him become a Super Saiyan God". He doesn't for reasons given by Toriyama.

I would like to point out that in the manga Goku transforms into a SSG against Hit and Trunks. He absorbed the Super Saiyan God form and didn't need to use a ritual to become it anymore. That WAS the manga's way of him absorbing the power.

Even so it's completely different from the anime. In the anime the power was said to have fully merged with him, he already had the power in him at all times so turning into would do nothing but change his hair colour.

That's why Toriyama said he didn't need to transform into it. He transforms into it in the manga though because he hasn't got that power in his Base state which is why he's weaker than Piccolo and why he can still turn into Super Saiyan.

He uses the form itself, so he absorbed it. If he didn't absorb it, then he wouldn't be able to use it. If you can't understand something that simple, then that's your problem.

I'm still waiting for the written statement that the Saiyan's usage of basic Super Saiyan and using SSJG in the movie is a mistake. You still haven't provided it. Your entire argument ends up being nonsense because of all the absurd assumptions you keep treating as fact.

[ChiefWamsutta]

After Frieza transforms into his final form, Frieza asks Goku if he will transform into a super saiyan.

Goku's reply: Nah, I don't need to go that far.

This would imply that transforming into a Super Saiyan, would make him stronger than his God Base and not the other way around.

Either Goku was talking about ssgss or regular ssj... that's up to ya'll to decide.

If he was talking about regular ssj, this would mean Frost is stronger than Frieza, besides his Golden form.

Even If you wanna say he has the same base he used in RoF... it's clearly not God level... otherwise Copy Vegeta would've crippled Gotenks in one blow, not 30+ Vegeta was going for the kill on Gotenks and still failed to do the job. If that were Mssj Vegito, Gotenks wouldn't be able to block shots to protect himself like he did against Base Vegeta... Vegito would break his arms.

There's also no proof Vegeta held back, he was going for the kill yet took so many blows... someone like ssjG Goku could do that in one chop.

Base Goku = Base Vegeta

Planet Potaufeu was mentioned in the Goku Black arc... so it's not filler... base should still be that strong if not stronger.

I totally agree with this! Yeah, Base Copy-Vegeta, who equals Base Vegeta would have destroyed SS3 Gotenks if he were THAT much stronger at SSG Goku level.

I totally missed that line at the end of DBS Ep. 23 where Goku says he doesn't need to go to Super Saiyan now. ... I don't think he meant SSB because he made a big deal about it being different than Super Saiyan. He was kinda saying, "Yeah, I don't need to go Super Saiyan anymore to beat you." He had to use SSB because he didn't anticipate Golden Frieza.

[ZombieVito]

Yeah, we'll just have to be patient I guess.

3.- Final form Freeza is way stronger than Super Saiyan Goku from the U6 arc.

Even if we go by the two-base theory, Goku still got 10x as strong as before. So the gap between Gohan and Goku would still be tremendous.

Speaking of which, this is how one could explain the ridiculous power-scaling of the Goku Black arc. Perhaps Goku and Vegeta just improved their SSB forms?
1. They can't get the "Zenkai boosts" anymore (Supported by the Daizenshuu), yet Goku is depicted to be 10x stronger than his U6 arc incarnation.
2. Vegeta said that Goku and him didn't improve much in the time chamber, yet he emerges way stronger than before this time.

So maybe Vegeta just worked on a method of increasing Super Saiyan Blue's multiplier. And then Goku, being Goku, managed to pick up on that method and increased his Super Saiyan Blue's power too? It would certainly explain how Goku was able to perform better than Vegeta against Merged Zamasu.

I honestly don't get why people say Goku got 10 times stronger after the Black arc.

Goku, Vegeta and Trunks all improved in the arc by anger.

Goku got a permanent power up by anger.
Vegeta got better training gains in the RoSaT by anger.
Trunks got a new form by anger.

[Bulma's Foot Masseur]

Even so it's completely different from the anime. In the anime the power was said to have fully merged with him, he already had the power in him at all times so turning into would do nothing but change his hair colour.

That's why Toriyama said he didn't need to transform into it. He transforms into it in the manga though because he hasn't got that power in his Base state which is why he's weaker than Piccolo and why he can still turn into Super Saiyan.

This is why people need to reconcile anime logic with the manga if it's at all possible. Toriyama is actively approving Toyotaro's reuse of Super Saiyan God as its own form, and it makes me wonder if further plot points will go off that since he's more creatively involved with Toyotaro's work than Toei's and has shown little consistency in his explanations anyway.

[RehBeh]

At the end of the day Saiyan Beyond God is as cannon as...

Red Eyed Namekian Gods.


God Majin


God Androids.


or God Power up Kaioshin.


In other words NOT AT ALL!

Those are just heroes class-ups, In the game they are not treated as a transformation.

[DBZ Macky]

If your only gripe with the "two-base" theory or "Saiyan beyond God" is that we can't differentiate between the 2 bases, then let me tell you, we can.

"SSB is a Saiyan with the power of a SSG as a SS"

So, if the first form Goku transforms into is SSB, then Goku was using the form with God essence. Not Godly Ki, but rather, Godly essence*. And if the first form he transforms into is SS/SS2/SS3, then he's using his regular base. You won't believe how much this fits with ALL the instances. Not to mention that the quote above actually backs it up.

*Godly essence: When Goku reverted back into SS from SSG, everyone including Beerus and Whis thought he stood no chance. No one mentioned that he was way stronger too. So for all intents and purposes, his Ki or "Power Level" would be the same as it was on Kaio's planet. But, he'd still have the power of God merged inside him. Later in the RoF arc, Goku can harness this power fully and releases it as mortal Ki. And Krillin and co. just lose their fucking minds when they notice how strong it is.

[Lord Frieza]

[spoiler]At the end of the day Saiyan Beyond God is as cannon as...

Red Eyed Namekian Gods.


God Majin


God Androids.


or God Power up Kaioshin.


In other words NOT AT ALL![/spoiler]

Those are just heroes class-ups, In the game they are not treated as a transformation.

Regardless of wither their a transformation or not, they are a powered up version of the original base character. And are the power ups a cannon part of dragon ball as a whole or just this game? Sorry if I'm being rude here but your comment has no bearing on my statement.

If your only gripe with the "two-base" theory or "Saiyan beyond God" is that we can't differentiate between the 2 bases, then let me tell you, we can.

"SSB is a Saiyan with the power of a SSG as a SS"

So, if the first form Goku transforms into is SSB, then Goku was using the form with God essence. Not Godly Ki, but rather, Godly essence*. And if the first form he transforms into is SS/SS2/SS3, then he's using his regular base. You won't believe how much this fits with ALL the instances. Not to mention that the quote above actually backs it up.

*Godly essence: When Goku reverted back into SS from SSG, everyone including Beerus and Whis thought he stood no chance. No one mentioned that he was way stronger too. So for all intents and purposes, his Ki or "Power Level" would be the same as it was on Kaio's planet. But, he'd still have the power of God merged inside him. Later in the RoF arc, Goku can harness this power fully and releases it as mortal Ki. And Krillin and co. just lose their fucking minds when they notice how strong it is.

Godly essence just sounds like God Ki by another name and I have not ever heard of the term "Godly essence" used within the show in any context that would describe it otherwise. Its no different then describing God Ki as "God Power".

[DBZ Macky]

It's just a term I made up. What I mean is that Goku's base is stated to be at SSG level without him actually having God Ki. In the BoG fight after reverting to SS, neither did he have God Ki and nor did his regular Ki swell up immensely. While in the RoF arc, he is able to make full use of God's power as regular state and his Ki is high enough to leave everyone on the scene flabbergasted.

[Lord Frieza]

It's just a term I made up. What I mean is that Goku's base is stated to be at SSG level without him actually having God Ki. In the BoG fight after reverting to SS, neither did he have God Ki and nor did his regular Ki swell up immensely. While in the RoF arc, he is able to make full use of God's power as regular state and his Ki is high enough to leave everyone on the scene flabbergasted.

First off thank you for explaining.

Heres the thing, it is a well established fact of the show that Goku's base has dramatically increased post absorbing the power of the SSG form. If it had not Goku would not stand a chance against Beerus and in both BoG and Super Beerus points this fact out. From that point onward Goku's base power remains increased and it would seem that what ever Vegeta did later had the same effect.

While some argument could, could have been made back when RoF came out due to it looking like SSB was going to replace all the other SS forms and it did seem like Goku was getting a new base form. However that was never, ever stated in the movie, it was only hinted at in a game and possibly by Toriyama himself. But thats all that it ever was, possible but not full on fact. But then Super happened and are rewritten a lot of the events and idea from both movies.

There is no implication at all that Goku's increase power during his fight with Frieza is anything more then the stated, all round power boost that he has all the time naturally to his base power. He never shows anything that would indicate he taps into another power source that suddenly boosts his base power exponentially.

Goku dose not have two base forms, all that has happend is that his base power has exponentially increased due due to absorbing SSG and training with Whis. Nothing more, nothing less. The Two base theory was an idea that Super has clearly dropped.

[DBZ Macky]

It's just a term I made up. What I mean is that Goku's base is stated to be at SSG level without him actually having God Ki. In the BoG fight after reverting to SS, neither did he have God Ki and nor did his regular Ki swell up immensely. While in the RoF arc, he is able to make full use of God's power as regular state and his Ki is high enough to leave everyone on the scene flabbergasted.

First off thank you for explaining.

Heres the thing, it is a well established fact of the show that Goku's base has dramatically increased post absorbing the power of the SSG form. If it had not Goku would not stand a chance against Beerus and in both BoG and Super Beerus points this fact out. From that point onward Goku's base power remains increased and it would seem that what ever Vegeta did later had the same effect.

While some argument could, could have been made back when RoF came out due to it looking like SSB was going to replace all the other SS forms and it did seem like Goku was getting a new base form. However that was never, ever stated in the movie, it was only hinted at in a game and possibly by Toriyama himself. But thats all that it ever was, possible but not full on fact. But then Super happened and are rewritten a lot of the events and idea from both movies.

There is no implication at all that Goku's increase power during his fight with Frieza is anything more then the stated, all round power boost that he has all the time naturally to his base power. He never shows anything that would indicate he taps into another power source that suddenly boosts his base power exponentially.

Goku dose not have two base forms, all that has happend is that his base power has exponentially increased due due to absorbing SSG and training with Whis. Nothing more, nothing less. The Two base theory was an idea that Super has clearly dropped.

You're welcome, I should thank you for understanding as well. I think it would be best if everyone was straightforward in this discussion, so please don't mind me if I just flat out disagree with everything you've said, after all, we're trying to make sense out of the same mess . I'm completely neutral to the whole thing, so I'm not claiming the theory as fact, but it really does make a lot of sense with the structure of the story, so I feel it's a bit wrong to just flat out deny it by simply saying "It wasn't stated directly, so it's pretty much head-canon".

I mean, you wouldn't be wrong, in fact, you're completely right in saying that. But things like Gohan and Piccolo getting stronger than Super Saiyan God aren't stated directly either. Plot-induced power ups have been a big part of the series, but never has it been done before that someone should power up so incredibly and no one even mentions it inside the story itself. So assuming that they managed to power up that much when nothing implies that in the story would be "head-canon" as well.

Goku's power didn't change at all when he reverted into Super Saiyan. Yet, it didn't change when he reverted into base either. Goku's power wouldn't decrease if he reverted to base, wouldn't that likewise imply that his power won't change if he became a Super Saiyan? I think that the point of it was to show that Goku was able to surpass God's power by himself. So for all intents and purposes,
Super Saiyan Goku = Base Goku >~ Super Saiyan God

Or, even if you think he could still further increase his power by transforming. Then I'd simply ask, then why didn't he?
Everything implies that Goku was around the level of Super Saiyan God in both his Base AND Super Saiyan forms.

So I don't see why he would suddenly increase his powers by dozens of times when he transformed into Super Saiyan 2 against Zamasu. Unless his base was actually different from before.

I have no problem discarding the "two-base theory" if someone can provide a better explanation for this mess, I'm completely neutral in my opinion. It's just that the theory makes so much sense and actually manages to hold it's weight, that I really prefer it if I had to pick a single side.

[Lord Frieza]

It's just a term I made up. What I mean is that Goku's base is stated to be at SSG level without him actually having God Ki. In the BoG fight after reverting to SS, neither did he have God Ki and nor did his regular Ki swell up immensely. While in the RoF arc, he is able to make full use of God's power as regular state and his Ki is high enough to leave everyone on the scene flabbergasted.

First off thank you for explaining.

Heres the thing, it is a well established fact of the show that Goku's base has dramatically increased post absorbing the power of the SSG form. If it had not Goku would not stand a chance against Beerus and in both BoG and Super Beerus points this fact out. From that point onward Goku's base power remains increased and it would seem that what ever Vegeta did later had the same effect.

While some argument could, could have been made back when RoF came out due to it looking like SSB was going to replace all the other SS forms and it did seem like Goku was getting a new base form. However that was never, ever stated in the movie, it was only hinted at in a game and possibly by Toriyama himself. But thats all that it ever was, possible but not full on fact. But then Super happened and are rewritten a lot of the events and idea from both movies.

There is no implication at all that Goku's increase power during his fight with Frieza is anything more then the stated, all round power boost that he has all the time naturally to his base power. He never shows anything that would indicate he taps into another power source that suddenly boosts his base power exponentially.

Goku dose not have two base forms, all that has happend is that his base power has exponentially increased due due to absorbing SSG and training with Whis. Nothing more, nothing less. The Two base theory was an idea that Super has clearly dropped.

You're welcome, I should thank you for understanding as well. I think it would be best if everyone was straightforward in this discussion, so please don't mind me if I just flat out disagree with everything you've said, after all, we're trying to make sense out of the same mess . I'm completely neutral to the whole thing, so I'm not claiming the theory as fact, but it really does make a lot of sense with the structure of the story, so I feel it's a bit wrong to just flat out deny it by simply saying "It wasn't stated directly, so it's pretty much head-canon".

I mean, you wouldn't be wrong, in fact, you're completely right in saying that. But things like Gohan and Piccolo getting stronger than Super Saiyan God aren't stated directly either. Plot-induced power ups have been a big part of the series, but never has it been done before that someone should power up so incredibly and no one even mentions it inside the story itself. So assuming that they managed to power up that much when nothing implies that in the story would be "head-canon" as well.

Goku's power didn't change at all when he reverted into Super Saiyan. Yet, it didn't change when he reverted into base either. Goku's power wouldn't decrease if he reverted to base, wouldn't that likewise imply that his power won't change if he became a Super Saiyan? I think that the point of it was to show that Goku was able to surpass God's power by himself. So for all intents and purposes,
Super Saiyan Goku = Base Goku >~ Super Saiyan God

Or, even if you think he could still further increase his power by transforming. Then I'd simply ask, then why didn't he?
Everything implies that Goku was around the level of Super Saiyan God in both his Base AND Super Saiyan forms.

So I don't see why he would suddenly increase his powers by dozens of times when he transformed into Super Saiyan 2 against Zamasu. Unless his base was actually different from before.

I have no problem discarding the "two-base theory" if someone can provide a better explanation for this mess, I'm completely neutral in my opinion. It's just that the theory makes so much sense and actually manages to hold it's weight, that I really prefer it if I had to pick a single side.

Fair enough, while just agree to disagree until if/when more official information on the subject becomes available.

I'm glad, its nice to have civil discussions even if we dont agree.

[emperior]

What do you guys think of this quick list I put up? It's a one-base list in which I dramatically lower the SSJ forms multipliers from RoF onwards. I still prefer the two-base theory as I think it makes more sense.

Multipliers:
SSJ - 5x
SSJ2 - 10x
SSJ3 - 40x
SSB - 100x

Spoiler:

Goku
Base - 50,000,000
SSJ - 2,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 5,000,000,000
SSJ3 - 20,000,000,000
SSG (Full Power) - 450,000,000,000
(SSG multiplier is 9000x)

Vegeta
Base - 45,000,000
SSJ - 2,250,000,000
SSJ2 - 4,500,000,000
FPSSJ2 - 90,000,000,000
(Vegeta's FPSSJ2 multiplier is 2,000x)

Gohan
Base - 20,000,000
SSJ - 1,000,000,000
Ultimate - 10,000,000,000

Majin Buu - 4,000,000,000

#18 - 350,000,000

Beerus
10% (vs Vegeta) - 100,000,000,000
50% (vs Goku) - 500,000,000,000
100% - 1,000,000,000,000
True Power - 10,000,000,000,000

Whis
True Power - 15,000,000,000,000

Spoiler:

Goku
Base - 5,000,000,000
SSB - 500,000,000,000

Vegeta
Base - 5,000,000,000
SSB - 500,000,000,000

Freezer
1st Form - 1,300,000,000
4th Form - 5,000,000,000
Golden - 600,000,000,000
Exhausted - 300,000,000,000 (Dropping)
(Golden Form is 120x of Freezer's 4th form)

Gohan
Base - 200,000,000
SSJ - 1,000,000,000

Freezer's Soldiers - Average of 100

Piccolo - 950,000,000
Tenshinan - 1,500,000
Krillin - 1,000,000
Master Roshi - 300
Jaco- 150

Spoiler:

U7

Whis - 15,000,000,000,000

Beerus - 10,000,000,000,000

Goku
Base - 6,000,000,000
SSJ - 30,000,000,000
SSB - 600,000,000,000
SSB + KKx2 - 1,200,000,000,000
SSB + KKx10 - 6,000,000,000,000

Vegeta

Base - 6,000,000,000
SSJ - 30,000,000,000
SSB - 600,000,000,000

Piccolo - 1,500,000,000

Majin Buu - 4,000,000,000

Monaka - 5


U6

Vados - ? 15,000,000,000,050

Champa - ? 9,999,999,999,950

Botamo - 5,000,000,000

Frost
1st Form - 5,200,000,000
Assault Form - 6,500,000,000
Final Form - 20,000,000,000

Otto Magetta - 40,000,000,000

Cabba
Base - 500,000,000
SSJ - 25,000,000,000,000

Hit - ???

Spoiler:

Present

Future Trunks
Base - 6,500,000,000
SSJ2 - 65,000,000,000

Black
Full Power - 250,000,000,000

Goku
Base - 6,000,000,000
SSJ2 - 60,000,000,000
SSJ3 - 240,000,000,000

Zamasu - 50,000,000,000


Future

Future Trunks (Post Training)
Base - 6,500,000,000
FPSSJ2 - 325,000,000,000
God Form - 975,000,000,000
(Trunks' FPSSJ2 multiplier is 50x. His God Form is 150x)

Vegeta
Base - 6,000,000,000
SSB - 600,000,000,000

Goku
Base- 6,000,000,000
SSB - 600,000,000,000
SSB (Rage) - 900,000,000,000

Vegeta (Rage + Training)
Base - 12,000,000,000
SSB - 1,200,000,000,000

Black (Goku boost)
Base - 500,000,000,000
SSR - 800,000,000,000
SSR (Full Power) - 1,000,000,000,000
SSR (Scythe) - 1,250,000,000,000
(Black is quite tricky. He never shows his full SSR power before Vegeta beats him after his training)

Future Zamasu - 350,000,000,000


Fusions

Goku
Base - 10,000,000,000
SSB - 1,000,000,000,000
SSB + KKx5 - 5,000,000,000

Vegeta
Base - 12,000,000,000
SSB - 1,200,000,000,000

Future Trunks (Rage)
Base - 8,000,000,000
God Form - 1,200,000,000,000

Merged Zamasu
Halo (1/8) - 4,000,000,000,000
Full Power - 24,000,000,000,000
Giant Form (1/2) - 12,000,000,000,000 (Decreasing)
(Potara multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 15)

Vegetto
Base - 220,000,000,000
SSB - 22,000,000,000,000
(Potara multiplier is: [(A+B)] x 10)

Spirit Sword Trunks - 12,000,000,000,000