The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[apex_pretador]

The strongest opponent Green lantern could beat in db..

Strongest opponent super man coubeqt in db

Which Green Lantern? There are a lot of them. Some feats put them to Superman Tier, or higher.

Superman depends on the writer. His power is incosistent as hell.

When we speak of the strongest opponent they could beat we usually go with the strongest version of them

Strongest versions? I am not sure what does that mean.

Strongest Kal-El / clark kent is Superman prime from earth prime, who is nearly immortal and fought Monarch. He can beat even super vegetto. Only Bibidi and Akkuman can defeat him.
In Super, he might be able to beat Vegeta. Maybe he can even beat Goku. Beerus is decently above him though.

Strongest version of actual mainstream superman is Superman prime one million, the golden one. He had a green lantern ring, enhanced senses, 15,000 year sundipping and knowledge of the universe. He can probably beat everyone till he encounters buu. I don't know who wins out of them. He can beat vegetto by versatility advantage though.
DBS high tiers would manhandle him.

If we are including thought robot, he is a walking plot-device, but not technically a superman. He is a fusion of superman and ultraman destroyed and converted to energy, which powers up thought robot. Anyways, TR is well above all mortals and even merged Zamasu. I do not know if he is above beerus though.

Standard superman is freeza level, he loses to cell.

Which green Lantern? Ion? Parallax? How many rings? Which continuity?

[Ki Breaker]

Which Green Lantern? There are a lot of them. Some feats put them to Superman Tier, or higher.

Superman depends on the writer. His power is incosistent as hell.

When we speak of the strongest opponent they could beat we usually go with the strongest version of them

Strongest versions? I am not sure what does that mean.

Strongest Kal-El / clark kent is Superman prime from earth prime, who is nearly immortal and fought Monarch. He can beat even super vegetto. Only Bibidi and Akkuman can defeat him.
In Super, he might be able to beat Vegeta. Maybe he can even beat Goku. Beerus is decently above him though.

Strongest version of actual mainstream superman is Superman prime one million, the golden one. He had a green lantern ring, enhanced senses, 15,000 year sundipping and knowledge of the universe. He can probably beat everyone till he encounters buu. I don't know who wins out of them. He can beat vegetto by versatility advantage though.
DBS high tiers would manhandle him.

If we are including thought robot, he is a walking plot-device, but not technically a superman. He is a fusion of superman and ultraman destroyed and converted to energy, which powers up thought robot. Anyways, TR is well above all mortals and even merged Zamasu. I do not know if he is above beerus though.

Standard superman is freeza level, he loses to cell.

Which green Lantern? Ion? Parallax? How many rings? Which continuity?

I will say I am not aware of the full continuity and history of green lantern..

Take your pick, whichever version has the best Chances take that

[apex_pretador]

When we speak of the strongest opponent they could beat we usually go with the strongest version of them

Strongest versions? I am not sure what does that mean.

Strongest Kal-El / clark kent is Superman prime from earth prime, who is nearly immortal and fought Monarch. He can beat even super vegetto. Only Bibidi and Akkuman can defeat him.
In Super, he might be able to beat Vegeta. Maybe he can even beat Goku. Beerus is decently above him though.

Strongest version of actual mainstream superman is Superman prime one million, the golden one. He had a green lantern ring, enhanced senses, 15,000 year sundipping and knowledge of the universe. He can probably beat everyone till he encounters buu. I don't know who wins out of them. He can beat vegetto by versatility advantage though.
DBS high tiers would manhandle him.

If we are including thought robot, he is a walking plot-device, but not technically a superman. He is a fusion of superman and ultraman destroyed and converted to energy, which powers up thought robot. Anyways, TR is well above all mortals and even merged Zamasu. I do not know if he is above beerus though.

Standard superman is freeza level, he loses to cell.

Which green Lantern? Ion? Parallax? How many rings? Which continuity?

I will say I am not aware of the full continuity and history of green lantern..

Take your pick, whichever version has the best Chances take that

A Standard elite green Lantern would get manhandled by super perfect cell or higher.

[LowRyder2005]

The strongest opponent Green lantern could beat in db..

Strongest opponent super man coubeqt in db

I'll preface that both Dragon Ball and DC Comics are inconsistent and there's really no way you'll get a univocal or really reliable answer. I'd personally follow this rule of thumb, though:

- Superman (Post-Crisis): at regular levels, possibly medium-high Z-tiers like SS2 and SS3 (can amp himself through sun-dipping, in which case he can basically get anywhere in power). Has more than a few outliers that could put him massively above them.
Source: http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Kal-El_(New_Earth)

- Superman (Pre-Crisis): at regular levels, possibly comparable to Angels. He has strikingly similar feats to those of Whis and Vados (turning back time, dragging planets along the galaxy).
Source: http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Kal-El_(Earth_One)

- Superman (One Million): Superman after sundipping for many, many years. For sheer power and versatility, possibly above everything in Super but Zen'oh - mainly for destructive power, he probably can't destroy multiple universes.
Source: http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Kal-El_(DC_One_Million)

- Superman (Thought Robot): not nearly quantifiable, since he's implied to belong to a different plane of existence compared to the regular DC continuity. He's like, in a narrative in-between two fourth walls - if something like this could make sense. He's able to see the entire multiverse and defeat another nigh-omnipotent, so he's by all means above everything in Super (but possibly Zen'oh). This is basically a Superman who was created to be the strongest nigh-omnipotent in the playground.
Source: http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/The_Thought_Robot

[TheUltimateNinja]

Kaioken x15,000,000 Kid Goku vs Namek Freeza

[DanielSSJ]

Kaioken x15,000,000 Kid Goku vs Namek Freeza

Depends on when we're picking Goku from. Start of Dragon Ball, the 21st Tournament, after Karin's training, the 22nd Tournament, or after drinking the Super God Water. There is a HUGE gap between those iterations of "Kid" Goku. Then again, if Goku from any point in the story before his training with Kaio attempted the Kaioken, he would've probably crippled if not killed himself in less than five seconds, and there's no way modern Goku could handle a Kaioken x 15 million. Freeza would win easily.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Kaioken x15,000,000 Kid Goku vs Namek Freeza

Depends on when we're picking Goku from. Start of Dragon Ball, the 21st Tournament, after Karin's training, the 22nd Tournament, or after drinking the Super God Water. There is a HUGE gap between those iterations of "Kid" Goku. Then again, if Goku from any point in the story before his training with Kaio attempted the Kaioken, he would've probably crippled if not killed himself in less than five seconds, and there's no way modern Goku could handle a Kaioken x 15 million. Freeza would win easily.

We're talking about BoDB Goku. And the Kaioken x15,000,000 just means he's 15,000,000x stronger, the actual effects of the Kaioken do not apply.

[Noah]

Super Gogeta 3 vs. Super Gotenks 3

Gogeta reverts to the regular Super Saiyan form and blows Gotenks up just by pointing his fingers in his general direction.

I don't think Super Gogeta is that strong to defeat Gotenks without using his ultimate form IMO

SSJ Gotenks = SSJ3 Goku, than you expect his SSJ3 form to be way ahead of that power


But, I have my doubts who's stronger:

Super Janemba vs. Super Boo

[DanielSSJ]

We're talking about BoDB Goku. And the Kaioken x15,000,000 just means he's 15,000,000x stronger, the actual effects of the Kaioken do not apply.

So it's basically the Super Saiyan Goku vs Freeza fight then? Freeza has a slight power disadvantage, but since Goku hasn't been trained by anyone yet, he doesn't have the smarts or the skills to effectively fight Freeza.

[TheUltimateNinja]

We're talking about BoDB Goku. And the Kaioken x15,000,000 just means he's 15,000,000x stronger, the actual effects of the Kaioken do not apply.

So it's basically the Super Saiyan Goku vs Freeza fight then? Freeza has a slight power disadvantage, but since Goku hasn't been trained by anyone yet, he doesn't have the smarts or the skills to effectively fight Freeza.

He has the Janken and whatever else Gohan taught him along with the Kamehameha. 21st Budokai Goku is basically the same as BoDB Goku in terms of skill since Roshi didn't teach him anything.

[DanielSSJ]

He has the Janken and whatever else Gohan taught him along with the Kamehameha. 21st Budokai Goku is basically the same as BoDB Goku in terms of skill since Roshi didn't teach him anything.

He's still missing the enemy anticipation skills he got from training with Karin, the advanced Ki control skills he picked up from Kami and Kaio, and the decades of fighting experience he got from challenging strong opponents throughout his life. With such a small power difference, Freeza would still win.

[TheUltimateNinja]

He has the Janken and whatever else Gohan taught him along with the Kamehameha. 21st Budokai Goku is basically the same as BoDB Goku in terms of skill since Roshi didn't teach him anything.

He's still missing the enemy anticipation skills he got from training with Karin, the advanced Ki control skills he picked up from Kami and Kaio, and the decades of fighting experience he got from challenging strong opponents throughout his life. With such a small power difference, Freeza would still win.

On the other hand, here Goku's going all out instead of holding back like he did as a Super Saiyan.

[DanielSSJ]

On the other hand, here Goku's going all out instead of holding back like he did as a Super Saiyan.

Did he hold back?

[TheUltimateNinja]

On the other hand, here Goku's going all out instead of holding back like he did as a Super Saiyan.

Did he hold back?

It definitely seemed that way. Once he got serious he started stomping Freeza right before he decided to quit. If he really went all out it'd probably be like Mecha Freeza vs Trunks.

[DanielSSJ]

It definitely seemed that way. Once he got serious he started stomping Freeza right before he decided to quit. If he really went all out it'd probably be like Mecha Freeza vs Trunks.

Yeah, but you could also say that the "stomping" started because Freeza was running out of stamina, which is Goku's given reason why he stopped fighting.
Either way, Kid Goku really only possesses raw power and mundane martial arts skill, and the Kamehameha. He lacks much of the more advanced skills and experience he would later pick up from his teachers and opponents. Given all this, I don't think Goku's strength is enough to win against an opponent who does have most of those skills, like Freeza.
If nothing else, Freeza can easily fire pot-shots from the air against the ground-bound Goku, or safely blow up the planet from orbit or something.

[TheUltimateNinja]

It definitely seemed that way. Once he got serious he started stomping Freeza right before he decided to quit. If he really went all out it'd probably be like Mecha Freeza vs Trunks.

Yeah, but you could also say that the "stomping" started because Freeza was running out of stamina, which is Goku's given reason why he stopped fighting.
Either way, Kid Goku really only possesses raw power and mundane martial arts skill, and the Kamehameha. He lacks much of the more advanced skills and experience he would later pick up from his teachers and opponents. Given all this, I don't think Goku's strength is enough to win against an opponent who does have most of those skills, like Freeza.
If nothing else, Freeza can easily fire pot-shots from the air against the ground-bound Goku, or safely blow up the planet from orbit or something.

Then how about Kaioken x150,000 Saiyan Arc Goku?

[DanielSSJ]

Then how about Kaioken x150,000 Saiyan Arc Goku?

If it's before his training with Kaio, Goku ends up about half as strong as Freeza's 100% strength and loses horribly. If it's after, Goku ends up exactly 10x stronger than Freeza, who loses horribly.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Then how about Kaioken x150,000 Saiyan Arc Goku?

If it's before his training with Kaio, Goku ends up about half as strong as Freeza's 100% strength and loses horribly. If it's after, Goku ends up exactly 10x stronger than Freeza, who loses horribly.

Goku was capable of putting out a power level of nearly 1,000 against Raditz.

[DanielSSJ]

Goku was capable of putting out a power level of nearly 1,000 against Raditz.

Yeah, but only for amped-up Ki attacks like the Kamehameha. His normal level is 416.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Goku was capable of putting out a power level of nearly 1,000 against Raditz.

Yeah, but only for amped-up Ki attacks like the Kamehameha. His normal level is 416.

He can fight from a distance and use the Kamehameha to deal heavy damage.