The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gog » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:22 pm

Finial Form King Cold (Manga) V Finial Form Coola

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:34 pm

Gog wrote:Finial Form King Cold (Manga) V Finial Form Coola
They're both probably about as strong as each other, but Coola seems to be a more hands-on kinda guy than his dad or brother, so he probably has more experience fighting. Odds are that he would win.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gog » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:39 pm

Super Saiyan 4 Gotenks V Super Saiyan Vegetto

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:53 pm

DanielSSJ wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:Jackie Chun vs 21st Budokai Goku, Kuririn, Yamcha, Giran and Nam.

Jackie can't use his buff form, Goku doesn't have his tail.
I personally don't believe regrowing his tail actually made Goku stronger like everyone else thinks. It's just another appendage for Goku to fight with. As such, if Muten Roshi doesn't have access to his strongest technique and Goku has a bunch of tournament contestants backing him up, he'll win easily.
But they literally showed Goku becoming stronger. He was able to break out of GIran's gum through sheer power which he was unable to do before, and he kicks through a wall and says he's in tip top condition and he really is better when he has his tail.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:43 pm

Gog wrote:Super Saiyan 4 Gotenks V Super Saiyan Vegetto
Going Super Saiyan 4, Gotenks ends up a moderate amount stronger than Super Vegetto. However, Gotenks is too much of an idiot to take advantage of this and ends up squandering his limited time in the form. Vegetto ends up winning.
TheUltimateNinja wrote:But they literally showed Goku becoming stronger. He was able to break out of Giran's gum through sheer power which he was unable to do before, and he kicks through a wall and says he's in tip top condition and he really is better when he has his tail.
If you reread the manga, Giran never gave Goku the chance to try and break out until Goku grows back his tail. And of course he's better with his tail than he is without. He's regained a fully functional appendage that he's had for his entire life.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gog » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:10 pm

Super Saiyan 5 Goku and Super Saiyan 5 Vegeta V SSGSS Goku and Golden Freeza

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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:14 pm

DanielSSJ wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:But they literally showed Goku becoming stronger. He was able to break out of Giran's gum through sheer power which he was unable to do before, and he kicks through a wall and says he's in tip top condition and he really is better when he has his tail.
If you reread the manga, Giran never gave Goku the chance to try and break out until Goku grows back his tail. And of course he's better with his tail than he is without. He's regained a fully functional appendage that he's had for his entire life.
What chance did he give Goku when he grew his tail back? Goku just broke out almost instantly as soon as he landed. And he had plenty of opportunities to bust out while he was fighting Giran tailless, for starters when he first got stuck, he clearly had far more time than he took to break out once he got his tail back since Giran didn't start attacking immediately. And he could have also done so while he was on Kinto'un, or while Giran was complaining about him using Kinto'un.

Furthermore, why would Goku kick through the wall and say he feels much better if his power didn't increase at all?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:30 am

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apex_pretador wrote:- Already happened, the team was losing without spirit bomb. Here, the spirit bomb won't be enough without gohan, kids, krillin and co, mr satan helping them out.
No, it didn't. 3 vs. 1 on Kid Boo? Goku, Vegeta and Boo fighting against him at the same time? That's what I asked.
It is out of character for them to fight at once. Anyways, vegeta doesn't matter, because he is a non-factor. Only buu and goku matter.
Even then, the team's only, and I mean only chance, is that somehow buu hits kid buu with his candy beam. That's assuming if kid buu is still playing around, and does not use his true power he brought out against spirit bomb, or does not destroy the planet or does not absorb anyone.
Gog wrote:Super Saiyan 5 Goku and Super Saiyan 5 Vegeta V SSGSS Goku and Golden Freeza
Which super saiyan 5? Anyways, freeza blows up the planet, killing all the saiyans at once.
Gog wrote:Super Saiyan 4 Gotenks V Super Saiyan Vegetto
Vegetto wins because gotenks's time is cut short.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gog » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:01 am

Fifth form Freeza (Namek Saga) V Super Saiyan Goku (Namek Saga)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:40 pm

Gog wrote:Fifth form Freeza (Namek Saga) V Super Saiyan Goku (Namek Saga)
Gaining access to form five pushes Freeza from being a step or two behind Goku to a step or two ahead of him. While Goku might still win via Freeza's lack of stamina, he's definitely going to be at a disadvantage.
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:52 pm

Every poster on the forum vs. each other, if their postcounts were their power levels. Assume you can all do basic moves like flight, ki blasts, etc. Also, you get the following bonuses:

- Moderators can use Kaio-ken x10
- Administrators can go SSJ1
- Every month you've been registered gives you a 1.1x zenkai
- If your username beings with A, you get Android 19/20's ki absorption power
- If your username beings with B, you get Yakon's absorption power
- If your username beings with C, you get Bergamo's absorption power
- If your username beings with D, you get Super 17's absorption power
- If your username begins with E, you get Buu's regeneration
- If your username beings with F, you get Akkuman's Devilmite Beam
- If your username begins with G, you get Boss Rabbit's carrot power
- If your username begins with H, you get Buu's candy beam
- If your username begins with I, you get Beerus' Hakai
- If your username beings with J, you can use all SSJ forms with known multipliers, up to SSJ3 (these stack on top of moderator and admin multipliers)
- If your username beings with K, you get Metal Cooler's adaptation and regeneration plus the Big Gete Star
- If your username beings with L, you get General Rilldo's metal manipulation powers and metal breath
- If your username beings with M, you get Cell's regeneration and the ability to create Cell Jrs. (whose power is proportional to yours as the real Cell Jrs. were to Cell)
- If your username beings with N, you get Whis' time rewind
- If your username begins with O, you get Guldo's time freeze
- If your username begins with P, you get Hit's time skip
- If your username beings with Q, you get all of Freeza's transformations, complete with power increase, except Golden form (say the multipliers are x2, x2, x50, and x2, cumulative)
- If your username beings with R, you get Rage Shenron's electricity powers and slime regeneration
- If your username beings with S, you get Garlic Jr.'s ability to open the Dead Zone
- If your username beings with T, you get Namekian regeneration and the ability to become a giant
- If your username beings with U, you get Janemba's portal abilities and bunkai teleport
- If your username begins with V, you get the ability to survive indefinitely in space (other posters don't have this, even the ones with Buu/Cell/Freeza/etc. powers)
- If your username beings with W, you get androids 17 and 18's unlimited stamina
- If your username beings with X, you get Hirudegarn's smoke intangibility
- If your username begins with Y, you get Botamo's defense power
- If your username begins with Z, you get the ability to use any one of the Z-senshi's signature moves (but you can only pick one)
- If your username begins with something else, you get Babidi's magic powers

Who wins?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:42 pm

SSj Kid Goku (Piccolo Daimao saga) vs... (In no real order)

23rd TB Piccolo
Jaco
Garlic Jr. (No immortality)
Radditz
Saibamen
Nappa
Saiyan Saga Vegeta
Dodoria
Misokatsun
Kishime
Ebifurya
Dr. Uiro
Oozaru Saiyan Saga Vegeta

How far does he go?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:18 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:SSj Kid Goku (Piccolo Daimao saga) vs... (In no real order)

23rd TB Piccolo
Jaco
Garlic Jr. (No immortality)
Radditz
Saibamen
Nappa
Saiyan Saga Vegeta
Dodoria
Misokatsun
Kishime
Ebifurya
Dr. Uiro
Oozaru Saiyan Saga Vegeta

How far does he go?
He would lose to Vegeta, unless you believe RoF Jaco is comparable in power to Krillin, in which case Jaco beats him. Also Dr. Wheelo and his minions shouldn't be below Vegeta and Dodoria.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gog » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:20 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:[spoiler]Every poster on the forum vs. each other, if their postcounts were their power levels. Assume you can all do basic moves like flight, ki blasts, etc. Also, you get the following bonuses:

- Moderators can use Kaio-ken x10
- Administrators can go SSJ1
- Every month you've been registered gives you a 1.1x zenkai
- If your username beings with A, you get Android 19/20's ki absorption power
- If your username beings with B, you get Yakon's absorption power
- If your username beings with C, you get Bergamo's absorption power
- If your username beings with D, you get Super 17's absorption power
- If your username begins with E, you get Buu's regeneration
- If your username beings with F, you get Akkuman's Devilmite Beam
- If your username begins with G, you get Boss Rabbit's carrot power
- If your username begins with H, you get Buu's candy beam
- If your username begins with I, you get Beerus' Hakai
- If your username beings with J, you can use all SSJ forms with known multipliers, up to SSJ3 (these stack on top of moderator and admin multipliers)
- If your username beings with K, you get Metal Cooler's adaptation and regeneration plus the Big Gete Star
- If your username beings with L, you get General Rilldo's metal manipulation powers and metal breath
- If your username beings with M, you get Cell's regeneration and the ability to create Cell Jrs. (whose power is proportional to yours as the real Cell Jrs. were to Cell)
- If your username beings with N, you get Whis' time rewind
- If your username begins with O, you get Guldo's time freeze
- If your username begins with P, you get Hit's time skip
- If your username beings with Q, you get all of Freeza's transformations, complete with power increase, except Golden form (say the multipliers are x2, x2, x50, and x2, cumulative)
- If your username beings with R, you get Rage Shenron's electricity powers and slime regeneration
- If your username beings with S, you get Garlic Jr.'s ability to open the Dead Zone
- If your username beings with T, you get Namekian regeneration and the ability to become a giant
- If your username beings with U, you get Janemba's portal abilities and bunkai teleport
- If your username begins with V, you get the ability to survive indefinitely in space (other posters don't have this, even the ones with Buu/Cell/Freeza/etc. powers)
- If your username beings with W, you get androids 17 and 18's unlimited stamina
- If your username beings with X, you get Hirudegarn's smoke intangibility
- If your username begins with Y, you get Botamo's defense power
- If your username begins with Z, you get the ability to use any one of the Z-senshi's signature moves (but you can only pick one)
- If your username begins with something else, you get Babidi's magic powers

Who wins?[/spoiler]
This is the greatest of mismatches;

Clearly Gog stomps all.

Anyway

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:49 pm

Gog wrote: Vegeta SS3 V Kid Buu
Basically a more one sided version of Goku vs Kid Buu.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gog » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:36 pm

Finial Form Freeza 50% Kaio Ken x 20 V SSJ Vegeta (Cell Saga)

(if shit goes south for Freeza he can bump it up to Kaio Ken x 50)

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Gog wrote:Finial Form Freeza 50% Kaio Ken x 20 V SSJ Vegeta (Cell Saga)

(if shit goes south for Freeza he can bump it up to Kaio Ken x 50)
Vegeta gets destroyed.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Gog » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:53 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Gog wrote:Finial Form Freeza 50% Kaio Ken x 20 V SSJ Vegeta (Cell Saga)

(if shit goes south for Freeza he can bump it up to Kaio Ken x 50)
Vegeta gets destroyed.
What about Goku then?

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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:55 pm

Gog wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Gog wrote:Finial Form Freeza 50% Kaio Ken x 20 V SSJ Vegeta (Cell Saga)

(if shit goes south for Freeza he can bump it up to Kaio Ken x 50)
Vegeta gets destroyed.
What about Goku then?
Goku effortlessly beats Kaioken x20 Freeza but loses to Kaioken x50 Freeza.

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Post by dragonball0900 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:12 pm

Gog wrote:Finial Form Freeza 50% Kaio Ken x 20 V SSJ Vegeta (Cell Saga)

(if shit goes south for Freeza he can bump it up to Kaio Ken x 50)
60,000,000 times 20 is 1,200,000,000. That's the number I put to Cell Games Piccolo. That means that Vegeta takes this.

However, if Frieza has a Kaioken X50, then it's 3,000,000,000. The number I have for Cell Games Goku. That means that Vegeta gets stomped easily there.

If it's Goku instead of Vegeta, then he defeats easily Kaioken X20 Frieza, and is equal to Kaioken X50 Frieza, given his techniques and knowledge in fighting, I do believe Goku still has some edge here, but the fight would be long (just like the anime version of the Frieza vs Goku fight).

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