"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Freeza9000]

1. how in the world does black know about ssj red? huge toto asspul

also i'm glad zamazu called black kyudai and not neesan like what sasuke calls itachi basically him saying brother

Uhh, he could've either saw it in GodTube?

[Lord Beerus]

OK, this was hilarious.
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This proves that Goku's forgetting the seal isn't exactly bad, but how Toei handled it. To me, the bad thing about it in the anime isn't Goku forgetting the seal, but how he always forget something. Making this an actual gag and not just "Goku's forgetful" is a really good rendition compared to anime

Goku only forgot the Senzus before this. What other thing did he forget to call this constant?

And the joke isn't even funny in the manga. I mean, Goku couldn't take two seconds to make sure he took the right seal?

[Ikazvyr]

Goku only forgot the Senzus before this. What other thing did he forget to call this constant?

He forgot it on bathroom, he forgot it again (Bulma had to bring it to the future) PLUS he forgot the seal. If three times isn't constant, I don't know what is

And the joke isn't even funny in the manga. I mean, Goku couldn't take two seconds to make sure he took the right seal?

Isn't funny for who? You even quoted someone calling this hilarious
Don't wanna start some arguing about it here, but fun is very circumstantial. Some people called it funny and some (including you) don't. To me, funny or not, was at least better

[Lord Beerus]

Goku only forgot the Senzus before this. What other thing did he forget to call this constant?

He forgot it on bathroom, he forgot it again (Bulma had to bring it to the future) PLUS he forgot the seal. If three times isn't constant, I don't know what is

And the joke isn't even funny in the manga. I mean, Goku couldn't take two seconds to make sure he took the right seal?

Isn't funny for who? You even quoted someone calling this hilarious
Don't wanna start some arguing about it here, but fun is very circumstantial. Some people called it funny and some (including you) don't. To me, funny or not, was at least better

All that happened was that Goku asked Vegeta where the senzu were and he didn't know. Bulma then just gave Goku the senzu before they all left for the future again. That doesn't necessarily mean Goku forgot them again.

Taking the wrong seal is not a great alternative. It would be like taking a bag of marbles instead of a the bad of senzu because they just looked the same. Plus, if I don't find something funny, I don't find it funny.

[Zephyr]

1. how in the world does black know about ssj red? huge toto asspul

I know it's already been explained about a dozen times by now, but here's some additional visual confirmation:

[Meshack]

1. how in the world does black know about ssj red? huge toto asspul

I know it's already been explained about a dozen times by now, but here's some additional visual confirmation:

LOL people just don't pay attention and hate instead. that's a lot of people with the manga

[mfwlegend3]

I have a feeling that if this manga were made by modern Toriyama, it'd be even worse.

[Alruneia]

"OwO"
- Gowasu
I am so sorry
Also, I know plenty of people have said this already, but wow, we're drawing far too many conclusions about this chapter without having seen all of it, aren't we?

[mfwlegend3]

We've seen most of the important elements of the chapter and those parts have been translated. What could possibly be left?
>Gowasu is alive
>Goku and Vegeta return just when Trunks and Shin are about to job
>Vegeta deals with Black while Goku handles Zamasu
>Vegeta enters God and Goku explains that Vegeta will switch between God and Blue once he connects attacks
>Vegeta humiliates Black (again)
>Goku enters Blue and seals Zamasu inside of the mafuba
>Turns out Goku actually snatched a coupon and the actual seal is still in the past with Roshi
>Zamasu escapes (surprise surprise)
>Goku enters God as well and exclaims that it's more than enough to handle Zamasu
>He's right, as he nonchalantly beats Zamasu with God
>Meanwhile, Black is cornered like a bitch by Vegeta
>Zamasu lays on the ground, upset that they're being defeated in such a way
>Black suggests fusion
>Yay, Merged Zamasu

Somewhere in there Zamasu tries to team up with Black against Vegeta, and I guess Black has a problem with it since he wants to finish off Vegeta by himself? Which explains the Zamasu becoming assblasted as he grips on Black's gi collar and reminds him that Black said they would rule the universe if they worked together page.

[LightBing]

We've seen most of the important elements of the chapter and those parts have been translated. What could possibly be left?

Everything else. It's wrong to take incomplete information and judge it as if it was complete. It saddens me that people constantly do this every time a new chapter starts leaking.

Thinking you already know the gist of it isn't an excuse.

[mfwlegend3]

And what do you think could possibly be "everything else"? I'm genuinely curious.

[Noah]

Vegeta's always been an idiot when it comes to fighting someone he's leagues above with, like what happened with Cell, the dumbass waited for Cell to absorb 18 just to prove a point that he can still take him out even in his perfect form.

And that's why both he and Goku were the worst characters in Super, we see no progress, no development with their characters, they keep being the same as they used to be in Z. I would like see Vegeta actually stop fighting like a cocky bastard and Goku to stop being reckless for his own amusement.

Then he's an idiot. Dialog seems to imply Vegeta only got the form now anyway. Black says Vegeta isn't too different and wonders if he has has new form. Vegeta then says he needed SSG to beat him.

How would he even use it against Hit if it was clear that Vegeta didn't know jack about his time abilities or SSJB stamina issues?

I actually really like how Vegeta looks. I must be in the minority then.

Not quite, I like it too! Would like to see in action in the anime, but this probably won't happen.

Toyotaro already gave Trunks a nonsensical new form, so I don't see why this "Trunks asspull" business is only attributed to the anime.

A "Higher SSJ2" is not as nonsencial as a transformation unlocked by rage that makes Trunks being capable of resist SSJR Black and Merged Zamasu.

was it the anime or manga that said that the act of transforming into SSB is really draining? Because if it's the manga than what business does Vegeta have doing it constantly...

The manga. Toyotaro came up with that dumb drawback, so the way Vegeta is using it this time makes no sense whatsoever. Vegeta barely transformed and did anything against Cabba and he was already at 1/10.

Didn't Goku said in the anime he would save SSJB for later, because of its stamina issues?

[LightBing]

Doesn't matter, I'm not Urunai Baba. Only things that matters is the complete information, which we don't have yet. Don't you see my point?

[mfwlegend3]

Here's the full chapter.

Looks like I was on point for the most part excluding Black being upset with Zamasu attacking Vegeta.
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[TheUltimateNinja]

used to be in Z. I would like see Vegeta actually stop fighting like a cocky bastard and Goku to stop being reckless for his own amusement.

Then he's an idiot. Dialog seems to imply Vegeta only got the form now anyway. Black says Vegeta isn't too different and wonders if he has has new form. Vegeta then says he needed SSG to beat him.

How would he even use it against Hit if it was clear that Vegeta didn't know jack about his time abilities or SSJB stamina issues?

He knew about the stamina issues, he tells Goku he used SSBlue against Cabba anyway to fix his spirit.

[Pantheon]

Trunks looks so off this chapter, there's not a single on model shot of trunks in the whole chapter. It feel like maybe Toyotaro used kid trunks as a reference this chapter instead of future trunks. Either that or Toyotaro just doesn't give a shit about Trunks that much that he can't even be bothered to even draw him.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Black is such a joke in the manga, he's being outpaced by even SSGod Vegeta.

Trunks looks so off this chapter, there's not a single on model shot of trunks in the whole chapter. It feel like maybe Toyotaro used kid trunks as a reference this chapter instead of future trunks. Either that or Toyotaro just doesn't give a shit about Trunks that much that he can't even be bothered to even draw him.

He hasn't even bothered to draw Vegeta properly, so I doubt that.

[SansrivaaL]

Black is such a loudmouth not in a good way in the manga, he kept babbling about
Black: Whats with the smile? stop that" *attacks Vegeta, STOP SMILING SAIYAN!
Vegeta: *slaps his ki blast and continues to smirk again
Black: I said STOP SMILING!
WTF Black....

[Pantheon]

From herms:

At the tournament they could only go SSB once, but Vegeta's trained & can now go SSB many times without losing power. There, that's settled.

https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/843192640619204608

[LightBing]

There's still a lot of text that hasn't been translated. Looking at the images, the chapter seems OK. Seems like the art is weaker than usual. SSJG Vegeta looks fine after you get used to it.