"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[LightBing]

The best thing about this chapter is the removal of the SSJB weakness. I'm happy Toyotarõ decided to let go of it, it was pretty castrating. Eagerly waiting for the complete translation.

[TheMikado]

Zamasu: Damn it.... this... this shouldnt be happening. Damn it!
Black: ..... For what reason did you even get immortality? stand up!
Zamasu: Nobody told me things would turn out like this, if we team up, we can do whatever we please in the universe, wasnt that how its supposed to be? there's no point to all of this if you arent the strongest.
Goku: Whats happening? are they having a fallout?
Vegeta: ....Its over.
Why does Vegeta have no idea what could have happened and only Goku noticed Zamasu and Black were planning to fuse? actually why is Goku even the one explaning things.... this is so weird

You know Goku isn't a total idiot, he does know and remember things contrary to other depictions.

[Noah]

So this chapter indicates we'll see Gogeta or not?

[MathSSJ]

The best thing about this chapter is the removal of the SSJB weakness. I'm happy Toyotarõ decided to let go of it, it was pretty castrating. Eagerly waiting for the complete translation.

https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/843193282230341632

It's still there.

[TheMikado]

But SSGod should be far too weak for Merged Zamasu.

SSG has nothing to do with merged Zamasu at this point. Literally the very last panel was merged Zamasus appearence. Are we looking at the same things?

I'm obviously referring to the future. Goku can't use Blue again, and that means they're severely handicapped. They'll probably have to fuse immediately.

That's weird seeing them in a spot like that considering someone told me the manga lacks tension.

[SansrivaaL]

Zamasu: Damn it.... this... this shouldnt be happening. Damn it!
Black: ..... For what reason did you even get immortality? stand up!
Zamasu: Nobody told me things would turn out like this, if we team up, we can do whatever we please in the universe, wasnt that how its supposed to be? there's no point to all of this if you arent the strongest.
Goku: Whats happening? are they having a fallout?
Vegeta: ....Its over.
Why does Vegeta have no idea what could have happened and only Goku noticed Zamasu and Black were planning to fuse? actually why is Goku even the one explaning things.... this is so weird

You know Goku isn't a total idiot, he does know and remember things contrary to other depictions.

Becaue people have been going on about how Goku's a complete moron for mistaking the seal as the coupon
Actually my main problem is Vegeta, even after the panel when Goku released a ki blast to try and stop it, Black switched his earrings already and Vegeta's still confused, he's like "Kakarot, whats going on!"

[TheMikado]

The best thing about this chapter is the removal of the SSJB weakness. I'm happy Toyotarõ decided to let go of it, it was pretty castrating. Eagerly waiting for the complete translation.

I doubt Toyotaro wanted it there in the first place but needed a way to make Goku x10 more powerful just because for the tournament.

[TheUltimateNinja]

I wonder how fusion will work out now that Goku's much weaker than Vegeta.

SSG has nothing to do with merged Zamasu at this point. Literally the very last panel was merged Zamasus appearence. Are we looking at the same things?

I'm obviously referring to the future. Goku can't use Blue again, and that means they're severely handicapped. They'll probably have to fuse immediately.

That's weird seeing them in a spot like that considering someone told me the manga lacks tension.

There's still no tension at all since they can fuse at any time and win easily.

[The gr]

I'm gonna wait for the translation to fully judge this.But what the hell is going on with the artstyle,it looks very clunky and off and especially in scenes like goku and trunks talking,SSG Vegeta and​ trunks in general.they could be two answers for this

A) Toyoraro extend it the page count last month at the cost of bad art for this chapter

B) because he is working simultaneously on two arc at the same time

[LightBing]

The best thing about this chapter is the removal of the SSJB weakness. I'm happy Toyotarõ decided to let go of it, it was pretty castrating. Eagerly waiting for the complete translation.

https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/843193282230341632

It's still there.

It's not the same one. The "can't hold it for long" is brand new if I remember correctly. Now they can transform into SSJB several times without losing power. While before Vegeta lost a whooping 90% from transforming twice.

[dbzfan7]

The best thing about this chapter is the removal of the SSJB weakness. I'm happy Toyotarõ decided to let go of it, it was pretty castrating. Eagerly waiting for the complete translation.

https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/843193282230341632

It's still there.

I'm sure he means the really dumbass transforming weakness. Yeah it still draining, but now it's not nearly as ridiculous. So now you can transform as much as you want without wasting stamina, but using blue over time will drain it. So it's at least far more reasonable than that garbage the manga had in the U6 arc.

[SansrivaaL]

I wonder how fusion will work out now that Goku's much weaker than Vegeta.

I'm obviously referring to the future. Goku can't use Blue again, and that means they're severely handicapped. They'll probably have to fuse immediately.

That's weird seeing them in a spot like that considering someone told me the manga lacks tension.

There's still no tension at all since they can fuse at any time and win easily.

Refresh my memory but does fusing replenish their stamina? cause if not... they're still fcked, there are no more senzu's...

[emperior]

So Vegeta could overcome this huge SSB weakness in one year but both him and Goku couldn't in three years of training in the RoSaT? This is bullshit.
And why doesn't Black have this incredible weakness?
This chapter would have been good without that stupid SSG-fanservice. Black is garbage in the manga, Toyotaro missed so many opportunities with him and also turned him into a generic villain. He didn't have to go the anime route but he could have surely made Black much more interesting than what he did.

The art was also a little bad at times, especially for Vegeta's muscles.

[TheMikado]

Zamasu: Damn it.... this... this shouldnt be happening. Damn it!
Black: ..... For what reason did you even get immortality? stand up!
Zamasu: Nobody told me things would turn out like this, if we team up, we can do whatever we please in the universe, wasnt that how its supposed to be? there's no point to all of this if you arent the strongest.
Goku: Whats happening? are they having a fallout?
Vegeta: ....Its over.
Why does Vegeta have no idea what could have happened and only Goku noticed Zamasu and Black were planning to fuse? actually why is Goku even the one explaning things.... this is so weird

You know Goku isn't a total idiot, he does know and remember things contrary to other depictions.

Becaue people have been going on about how Goku's a complete moron for mistaking the seal as the coupon
Actually my main problem is Vegeta, even after the panel when Goku released a ki blast to try and stop it, Black switched his earrings already and Vegeta's still confused, he's like "Kakarot, whats going on!"

Vegeta wasn't around when the earrings were explained. Unless Goku had a sit down conversation with Vegeta later he should have no idea where the original pair came from.

[Basako]

So this chapter indicates we'll see Gogeta or not?

That will be in the next. I don't think we'll see Gogeta, Shin is there to let them use his earrings.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Shouldn't repeatedly going Blue still be far more draining than simply staying in the form? Why didn't Goku fight Cell in Base and only go SSJ for brief moments if this strategy works?

[SansrivaaL]

You know Goku isn't a total idiot, he does know and remember things contrary to other depictions.

Becaue people have been going on about how Goku's a complete moron for mistaking the seal as the coupon
Actually my main problem is Vegeta, even after the panel when Goku released a ki blast to try and stop it, Black switched his earrings already and Vegeta's still confused, he's like "Kakarot, whats going on!"

Vegeta wasn't around when the earrings were explained. Unless Goku had a sit down conversation with Vegeta later he should have no idea where the original pair came from.

So Vegeta after fighting with Black 3x didnt notice that what he was wearing was the potara that they used back in Boo arc?

[LightBing]

There's still no tension at all since they can fuse at any time and win easily.

You only know this because you saw the anime. The manga being behind takes away almost all the tension, you already know what's going to happen.

[Pantheon]

Okay i reread the arc and the closest Goku and Black come to interacting is when they first meet Goku provides exposition in Blacks general direction and Black basically confirms that exposition is true. Massive missed opportunity makes it feel quite empty. Also the other thing i noticed on my reread is that Goku has become Yamcha this arc, all he does for 90% of the arc is stand in the background and provide exposition.

[SansrivaaL]

There's still no tension at all since they can fuse at any time and win easily.

You only know this because you saw the anime. The manga being behind takes away almost all the tension, you already know what's going to happen.

Was there even any tension in DBS as a whole? we all know they're fine in EoZ.