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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:20 pm

VegetaSSJBlue wrote:Pui Pui vs Master Roshi [FnF Arc]
Pui Pui oneshots him.

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TheUltimateNinja wrote:
VegetaSSJBlue wrote:Pui Pui vs Master Roshi [FnF Arc]
Pui Pui oneshots him.
What are your reasons for thinking that?

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VegetaSSJBlue wrote:
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VegetaSSJBlue wrote:Pui Pui vs Master Roshi [FnF Arc]
Pui Pui oneshots him.
What are your reasons for thinking that?
Roshi is Raditz tier at best, there's no way a guy like Pui Pui would have any difficulty with him.

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Post by VegetaSSJBlue » Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:35 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
VegetaSSJBlue wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote: Pui Pui oneshots him.
What are your reasons for thinking that?
Roshi is Raditz tier at best, there's no way a guy like Pui Pui would have any difficulty with him.
Roshi fought with hundreds of soldiers of the level of Raditz, something that we do not know if it could do Pui Pui, that prides itself to bear a gravity ten times heavier than the Earth.

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Post by dragonball0900 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:38 pm

VegetaSSJBlue wrote:Pui Pui vs Master Roshi [FnF Arc]
Pui Pui defeats Roshi easily. I don't think Pui Pui is that weak to be honest.

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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:42 pm

VegetaSSJBlue wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:
VegetaSSJBlue wrote:
What are your reasons for thinking that?
Roshi is Raditz tier at best, there's no way a guy like Pui Pui would have any difficulty with him.
Roshi fought with hundreds of soldiers of the level of Raditz, something that we do not know if it could do Pui Pui, that prides itself to bear a gravity ten times heavier than the Earth.
Jaco said he couldn't handle an adult Saiyan and he was easily mowing through those soldiers, those soldiers are trash compared to Raditz.

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TheUltimateNinja wrote:
VegetaSSJBlue wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote: Roshi is Raditz tier at best, there's no way a guy like Pui Pui would have any difficulty with him.
Roshi fought with hundreds of soldiers of the level of Raditz, something that we do not know if it could do Pui Pui, that prides itself to bear a gravity ten times heavier than the Earth.
Jaco said he couldn't handle an adult Saiyan and he was easily mowing through those soldiers, those soldiers are trash compared to Raditz.
Jaco is much stronger than he was 40 years ago, now he is an elite soldier.

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VegetaSSJBlue wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:
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Roshi fought with hundreds of soldiers of the level of Raditz, something that we do not know if it could do Pui Pui, that prides itself to bear a gravity ten times heavier than the Earth.
Jaco said he couldn't handle an adult Saiyan and he was easily mowing through those soldiers, those soldiers are trash compared to Raditz.
Jaco is much stronger than he was 40 years ago, now he is an elite soldier.
We don't know how much stronger. He could have gone from 300 to 1,500.

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VegetaSSJBlue wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:
VegetaSSJBlue wrote:
What are your reasons for thinking that?
Roshi is Raditz tier at best, there's no way a guy like Pui Pui would have any difficulty with him.
Roshi fought with hundreds of soldiers of the level of Raditz, something that we do not know if it could do Pui Pui, that prides itself to bear a gravity ten times heavier than the Earth.
Raditz had a power level of 1,500, which was enough to one shot Frieza soldiers in the Namek saga, and Frieza mentioned his Frieza force got even weaker. Plies the soldiers gasped when Frieza busted a city and a bunch got eaten by a big fish. Raditz should stomp them.

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Post by In Brightest Day » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:34 pm

VegetaSSJBlue wrote:Pui Pui vs Master Roshi [FnF Arc]
Even when lowballing Pui Pui I don't think he would be lower than Saiyan arc Vegeta, whereas I doubt Roshi would be any stronger than Nappa by RoF. As much as it saddens me to say, Roshi is total one-shot material for Pui Pui.

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VegetaSSJBlue wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:
VegetaSSJBlue wrote:
Roshi fought with hundreds of soldiers of the level of Raditz, something that we do not know if it could do Pui Pui, that prides itself to bear a gravity ten times heavier than the Earth.
Jaco said he couldn't handle an adult Saiyan and he was easily mowing through those soldiers, those soldiers are trash compared to Raditz.
Jaco is much stronger than he was 40 years ago, now he is an elite soldier.
Earth's #1 assassin barely crossed the 100 mark. Even the top martial artists Kame-Sennin and Tsuru-Sennin were 139 and 120 respectively. Seems like reaching a bit to think that Jaco could improve enough to be stronger than Raditz just by shooting some aliens with his gun.

Frieza's recon corps were easily defeated by PLs of about 1,500. That would put them below Raditz. Not to mention that these soldiers would be a lot stronger than the second-rate mooks from RoF.
I won't be surprised if their battle powers were only around 500.

What feats and statements do Jaco and the Galactic King have in the Jaco Manga?
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Post by Gog » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:47 pm

VegetaSSJBlue wrote:Pui Pui vs Master Roshi [FnF Arc]
Pui Pui does the impossible and finally manages to pull a win.

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Post by Sandubadear » Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:11 pm

VegetaSSJBlue wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:
VegetaSSJBlue wrote:
Roshi fought with hundreds of soldiers of the level of Raditz, something that we do not know if it could do Pui Pui, that prides itself to bear a gravity ten times heavier than the Earth.
Jaco said he couldn't handle an adult Saiyan and he was easily mowing through those soldiers, those soldiers are trash compared to Raditz.
Jaco is much stronger than he was 40 years ago, now he is an elite soldier.
He was an elite from the start.
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Post by VegetaSSJBlue » Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:52 pm

DBZ Macky wrote:
VegetaSSJBlue wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote: Jaco said he couldn't handle an adult Saiyan and he was easily mowing through those soldiers, those soldiers are trash compared to Raditz.
Jaco is much stronger than he was 40 years ago, now he is an elite soldier.
Earth's #1 assassin barely crossed the 100 mark. Even the top martial artists Kame-Sennin and Tsuru-Sennin were 139 and 120 respectively. Seems like reaching a bit to think that Jaco could improve enough to be stronger than Raditz just by shooting some aliens with his gun.

Frieza's recon corps were easily defeated by PLs of about 1,500. That would put them below Raditz. Not to mention that these soldiers would be a lot stronger than the second-rate mooks from RoF.
I won't be surprised if their battle powers were only around 500.

What feats and statements do Jaco and the Galactic King have in the Jaco Manga?
Raditz only has a power of 1,200.
Freezer soldiers laugh at a power of 1,000. That was seen on the planet Namek.
Master Roshi is over 1,000 units by far.
Did Pui Pui show something to say he outdoes Raditz?

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Post by DBZ Macky » Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:43 pm

VegetaSSJBlue wrote:
DBZ Macky wrote:
VegetaSSJBlue wrote:
Jaco is much stronger than he was 40 years ago, now he is an elite soldier.
Earth's #1 assassin barely crossed the 100 mark. Even the top martial artists Kame-Sennin and Tsuru-Sennin were 139 and 120 respectively. Seems like reaching a bit to think that Jaco could improve enough to be stronger than Raditz just by shooting some aliens with his gun.

Frieza's recon corps were easily defeated by PLs of about 1,500. That would put them below Raditz. Not to mention that these soldiers would be a lot stronger than the second-rate mooks from RoF.
I won't be surprised if their battle powers were only around 500.

What feats and statements do Jaco and the Galactic King have in the Jaco Manga?
Raditz only has a power of 1,200.
Freezer soldiers laugh at a power of 1,000. That was seen on the planet Namek.
Master Roshi is over 1,000 units by far.
Did Pui Pui show something to say he outdoes Raditz?
The soldiers who laughed at a PL of 1,000 were soldiers who were capable enough to be by Freeza's side. Not to mention that they had the advantage in numbers, so even if they themselves had a slightly lower power than the Nameks, it'd still be laughable for them to try and fight back with that kind of power.

Raditz was a lower class Saiyan, a lower class warrior from a planet with 10x Earth's gravity. Pui-Pui on the other hand was stated to be the champion of Zoon, again, a planet with 10x gravity. Who do you think would hold the edge, a "champion" or a lower-class?

I think Pui-Pui is at least as strong as Saiyan Saga Vegeta. Plus, it's worth mentioning that Babidi was said to only recruit the strongest in the universe. Not to mention that Shin held Pui-Pui's power in high regard.
IMO, Pui-Pui is around Oozaru Vegeta's power.
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Post by Zamasu55 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:02 pm

Mattdos wrote:Okay now that I'm on the topic of Kais
Who would win in the battle between,
Zamasu (not immortal) Vs. Super Perfect Cell?
Both Present and Future Zamasu would win easily.

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Mattdos wrote:Okay now that I'm on the topic of Kais
Who would win in the battle between,
Zamasu (not immortal) Vs. Super Perfect Cell?
Present and future zamasu slaughters cell especially future zamasu.

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Post by DanielSSJ » Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:35 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:Gohan is considerably stronger than Goku who already outstripped everyone with only half his power, even after their trips to the RoSAT I don't think the others measure up to much more than half of Gohan, especially Piccolo.
After Goku put everyone to shame with half of his strength, Vegeta, Trunks, and Piccolo dived straight into the Room of Spirit and Time to get stronger, and it would be ridiculous to say that they didn't at least surpass 50% of Goku's power. I'd say that Vegeta, Trunks, and the Cell Juniors are at least a little stronger than half of Gohan's power even if Piccolo isn't, but again, ten-to-one odds are pretty ridiculous, especially if nine of those ten (Trunks is probably as skilled as Gohan) is a more skilled fighter than the one. But at this point, I think we should just agree to disagree.
VegetaSSJBlue wrote:Pui Pui vs Master Roshi [FnF Arc]
Puipui is considered one of the strongest fighters in the galaxy and was deemed strong enough by Bobbidi that he'd probably be overkill for the Saiyans (even if both he and Kaioshin are horrible judges of strength). All in all, I'd say he's at least as strong as Captain Ginyu (I actually have him at the same level as 3rd form Freeza, just because they look a little similar :P ). Meanwhile Muten Roshi's best feat is beating up on some extra pathetic and out-of-shape Freeza soldier guys, who even in their heyday probably ranged from below 1,000 to around 2,000. At best, I'd say that buff Roshi is around Nappa's level, so he gets wrecked.
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Post by VegetaSSJBlue » Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:16 am

DanielSSJ wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:Gohan is considerably stronger than Goku who already outstripped everyone with only half his power, even after their trips to the RoSAT I don't think the others measure up to much more than half of Gohan, especially Piccolo.
After Goku put everyone to shame with half of his strength, Vegeta, Trunks, and Piccolo dived straight into the Room of Spirit and Time to get stronger, and it would be ridiculous to say that they didn't at least surpass 50% of Goku's power. I'd say that Vegeta, Trunks, and the Cell Juniors are at least a little stronger than half of Gohan's power even if Piccolo isn't, but again, ten-to-one odds are pretty ridiculous, especially if nine of those ten (Trunks is probably as skilled as Gohan) is a more skilled fighter than the one. But at this point, I think we should just agree to disagree.
VegetaSSJBlue wrote:Pui Pui vs Master Roshi [FnF Arc]
Puipui is considered one of the strongest fighters in the galaxy and was deemed strong enough by Bobbidi that he'd probably be overkill for the Saiyans (even if both he and Kaioshin are horrible judges of strength). All in all, I'd say he's at least as strong as Captain Ginyu (I actually have him at the same level as 3rd form Freeza, just because they look a little similar :P ). Meanwhile Muten Roshi's best feat is beating up on some extra pathetic and out-of-shape Freeza soldier guys, who even in their heyday probably ranged from below 1,000 to around 2,000. At best, I'd say that buff Roshi is around Nappa's level, so he gets wrecked.
Nappa was also one of the strongest warriors, that level is by no means ordinary.
I see Pui Pui and Master Roshi at a level similar to Nappa.
Kaioshin does not know Pui Pui, that is why he is cautious.

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Post by apex_pretador » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:40 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:FPSSJ Gohan (Serious) vs SSJ Vegeta, SSJ Trunks, Piccolo and 7 Cell Jrs.
Too many opponents. The numbers instantly overwhelm Gohan, who despite being faster and stronger, is not dimensions apart from anyone of them, and can't one shot anyone here.
Mattdos wrote:Cell wins the Cell Games and destroyed the planet Earth. He moves on to destroy the rest of the galaxy, but Kaioshin learns of his plans and have come to stop him. Can he defeat Cell?
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And if Shin loses. He retreats and comes back after Potara fusing with his attendant Kibito, can he win now?
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Cell defeats Kaioshin, but merged kaioshin would defeat cell.
Mattdos wrote:Okay now that I'm on the topic of Kais
Who would win in the battle between,
Zamasu (not immortal) Vs. Super Perfect Cell?
Zamasu was powerful enough to give SS2 goku some trouble. Even base goku stomps SS3 gotenks.
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