Does Ki size matter?

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:45 pm

I find that the Kienzan is ridiculously underused considering its usefulness... basically so Chessnut man doesn't get to overshadow Goku. Though to his defense, in the filler where it hit Perfect Cell, it was the thing that finally got Cell's attention, when even getting beat fiercely by both Trunks and Kuririn didn't remotely jar him from his thoughts about "Wow, I'm finally perfect!".

He could have at least cut a Cell Jr up, though.

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Though this makes me think... since the effectiveness of such focused piercing-style techniques was pretty apparent if the heroes analyzed their battles... why weren't they used more? Disks seem only used for distraction purposes after Nappa ("Hah hah, Freeza doesn't have a tail until his next transformation!" "What? I didn't mean to do that! Curse my deadly aim!"). Egh, I guess that is what disabled Freeza (Goku drawing his disk back)... and how he died (Trunks+sword)... and I guess Goku did disk Buu.... and Buu SBC'd Gohan... and Gotenks cut Buu in half...

Ok, so I guess the question is why more specialized techniques weren't used against the Androids (including Cell and his spawn). ... And while I'm thinking about it... Gohan killed an extra Cell Jr because one of them was using splitform at the time.

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BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:50 pm

caejones wrote:And while I'm thinking about it... Gohan killed an extra Cell Jr because one of them was using splitform at the time. .

Sweet sassy mollasy it all makes sense now.

Dragon Ball Daisuki · Post by **Dragon Ball Daisuki** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:16 pm

Here's what I think, fellas.

Tenshinhan's Kikoho against Nappa: Typically, I always believed, what makes the Kikoho so effective is its shape. It's pretty unique as far as being the only rectangular-shaped ki blast. It creates this nice cookie-cutter box shape that's pretty hard to get away from. But forming it with just one hand.... think about it. Without the other hand there to give it's left side shape, a lot of the energy would just dissipate, right?

Plus, every successful instance of the Kikoho involved shooting the attack down from above. Come below or from the the side and all you're really doing is pushing your opponent back. But pushing your opponent down through rocks and earth... that's going to do a bit more damage. So, in review: improperly formed, and no damage modifiers to boot. Thus, Nappa was more or less unscathed.

Genki-Dama: Oh yes, Freeza was hurting. Hell, he could only manage to keep one eye open! He does say something to the effect of "Even I thought I was dead that time!" Bastard.

About the tail though? I personally believe Freeza was able to get off that thing, barely so, but his tail got nicced in the process. Escaping might seem like a cop-out, like the Genki Dama was unsuccessful ... but Vegeta pulled himself off of the 4x Kaioken-Kamehame-ha, and was still fully damaged, so I'm okay with it. Far as I can tell, it's the only fair explanation for Freeza's tail woes!

Freeza's Deathball: The "Trunks caught it!" line of reasoning is somewhat lacking, since Trunks also deflected those penetrating death beams easy as pie, if I recall correctly. No point of reference.

Vegeta's Final Explosion: No fault here. It seems that most of the time, in fights involving Majin Boo, Boo is the inferior fighter. There's just no getting around it. The flesh around the area where Vegeta's hits connect are just sort of *impacted* like those mattresses that mold around your body! I don't see that against stronger foes. Its finsihing Boo off that's the hard part. That's how I always saw it anyway. If Boo had been an ordinary fighter with the same power level, say Freeza, he would have been toast. I just have this image burned into my head of the guy's cheek all torn inside out and his tongue exploding.

Steven Perry · Post by **Steven Perry** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:31 am

It's not the size that matters, it's how you use it.

(I don't know why, but ever since Kaboom said that, it stuck with me. For good.

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Oh wait- I haven't read the rest of the thread, but I guess you can concentrate high energies into small blasts...

suomipoika · Post by **suomipoika** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:19 pm

Duo wrote:It's not the size that matters, it's how you use it.

Juvenile penis-joke is now out of the way.

that is true, very true

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:23 pm

Steven Perry wrote:It's not the size that matters, it's how you use it.

(I don't know why, but ever since Kaboom said that, it stuck with me. For good. )

Oh wait- I haven't read the rest of the thread, but I guess you can concentrate high energies into small blasts...

I can't find the post where Kaboom said that.

But I think it's funny how my short, summarized point has been so utterly expanded. It's how I always felt. Goku's Kamehameha against Vegeta at Kaio-ken x3 wasn't the biggest Kamehameha we'd ever seen, but it was the most powerful thus far.